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Clay the car they wax it Tim. Should be all she needs. Her paint is in good condition.
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Too much fucking effort. Get a can of flat black Rustoleum...
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I am beginning to think that is an auto response whenever someone mentions paint Murg. (lolhittin)
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I have a 5" orbital, so I'm picking up this kit:
http://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-DMCKI...meguiars+kit+5
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I think you'll be really pleased with the results from that.
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I don't know what size of things I have. My father inlaw gave me a bunch of his buffers to use. One is an orbital and another I think just a standard buffer. I'll just have to give it a whirl and see what happens. I've never done something like this to restore a paint. I had a guy who does detailing say I need to claybar it first then go from there which is why I posed that question. Looking over the Meguiar's product site it says to clay the car first before anything.
I've been using this TurtleWax car wash stuff for the longest time. I know I'll have to wash & dry it before I do anything. Would i have any reason to not use the stuff I normally do? Would a little bit of Dawn be better to cut any grease that is hanging out?
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Tim, you could always use a "tape measure" to figure out the size of the orbitals...
Pete, I'll be doing some paint restoration tomorrow morning. I had to replace my 50" extension after it went missing on my last project. I can't wait to wake my neighbors to the sound of cutting and buffing!
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Mmmmmmm.
Claybar sexy smooth.
I clayed one of the rear quarters. It helped with some but not all. I'm about to order the Meguiar's stuff recommended above. Shitty thing...I have a 10" DA. Largest pad they have is a 6". Depending on what I find out (either us the 6" pad on the 10" orbital or buy a new one) I'll then either order the pieces or just get a kit. I can get the compounds and wax for $25 shipped.
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Honestly, if you want good results without much headache just do what Facime suggested. That buffer will suit your needs pretty well, is big enough to cover area fairly quickly while still being small enough to get at most areas. It'd be a really sweet setup, just man up and get it. A 10" DA would be awesome for really big flat areas but doesn't work so well on curves of a car.
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I have the kit on order and I'm picking up a 6" DA to start on it this weekend.
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Everyone always suggest clay barring first because its a good starting point and because many people cant determine if they need that step or not. In most cases, if you don't know if your paint needs to be clay'd, then you need it.
For me, I'm almost always doing something drastic like rotary buffing with a wool and some heavy compound or even color sanding with 3K as my first step so generally clay bar just isn't needed.
Also, a lot of orbitals and other DA's use a similar backing pad mounting system so sometimes you can just remove the backer and install one to go with the kit you buy. The only problem with that is knowing the correct speed to run at (if the machine you are using even has a speed control). I bought the Meguiars DA because that way I could go their recommended speeds. just made it easy for me to dive right in.
with the MFCS they really stress not overusing the product and to brush or use compressed air (what I do) to fluff your pads frequently (I blow my pads out after each section). Their claim is that the product and the pads work together for the best results. The product is there to help the pad do its job, not the other way around.
Also, the amount of pressure you use is part of the process as well. Meg's released a heavy cutting pad for the system but its essentially just the normal cutting pad without the foam backer. This gives you the ability to really apply more pressure. I wasn't all that satisfied with it as a "heavy cutting" tool and when I need that much cutting I usually resort to my rotary/wool anyway. It is however useful as an intermediate step between heavy handed rotary work and standard correction processes.
As for soap, yeah, I use dawn for any type of washing where I plan to come back in with a polish, but not for everyday washing. I'm also really anal about the prewash step. Ive been known to wash a car for several hours before I'm happy with it. This includes the door jams and under the hood and trunk/hatch and spending some time in the wheel wells. Don't forget to wash under the fuel door as well. If there is one thing I cant stand its picking up shit on my microfibers from a lower panel or wheel arch when I'm doing my wipe down after using the finishing wax.
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Thanks.
I have the kit coming tomorrow and I'm picking up a variable speed tomorrow. I'll go over the quarter panel section I clay'd and see what happens. If it comes out, woot. If not....hello new paint job.
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it will come out, just be careful about buffing through to the primer coat. A DA and the MFCS is pretty safe, but its still possible to buff too long or too hard and run out of paint thickness.
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Once equipped with the proper tools...
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Damn great work, now you just need to go over the entire car to make it really shine!
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Damn great work, now you just need to go over the entire car to make it really shine!
That's the plan. I can only handle the tool for maybe a minute or two. I'm going to take Pete's suggestion and drop the RPM down a bit on it. Right now it vibrates so much that my old carpel tunnel hands have a hard time keeping control of it. I'll do a panel a night. She's back in the garage now so no worries about the elements getting to her again.
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Try to get the pad as centered as you can as well, it vibrates like a bitch if its not. It shouldn't vibrate too much though. I don't remember my porter cable machine having any issues with that at all, even at high RPM, and I think the megs one is either a rebrand of the porter cable or something very similar. I never ran it full tilt though.
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Great job Tim! I told you she was in good shape. 
Now tint the windows so those gorgeous leather seats don't get nuked in the oven you call home and be sure to condition them.
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She lives in the garage. I just pulled it out for working room
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Awesome work! Looks like a total different car.
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