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    Default The ignorance in people today...

    Scares me. This guy on RX7club was telling a potential alltrac buyer this -

    60k miles is about on par with when you should be ready to replace your turbo if you have turned up the boost. on stock boost 100k is starting to push it.

    the all-trac is not what you think it is, its not a toyota quality DSM.
    its basically a junky camry motor with some boost and a glass transmission that is impossible to work on. doing a clutch job is a huge ordeal on those cars, and the transmissions are frighteningly weak.
    those era toyota engines do just leak, constantly. but they run forever in a camry(btw they made AWD camrys of the same era also)

    the all-trac celica has far too many weak links to make it a good modifiable car. keep it stock and i'm sure you can have fun with it though, just be careful.

    junky camry motor?!?!? glass transmission?!!? wow... what?!
    i'm not starting shit but jeez! come on!!

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    when did they make AWD camrys? what a douche. and yea the 3sfe or whatever it is in the camry is EXACTLY the same as the 3sgte... ok guy.

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    don't you just love the internet and all its experts hahahaha

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    There IS a camry alltrac, but I'd have left a mushroom shaped bruise on the forehead of the aforementioned rx7 owner
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    They did make a Camry Alltrac.

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    no way. i did not know that! it must be super rare and horribly unreliable. haha

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    yeah, I have seen it come up in parts listings at the parts stores, I've never seen one but believe they did do so

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    god its true, though with a v6 and not the venerable 3s..

    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...rticleId=46002

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    I think hes cross referencing camry alltrac and celica alltrac..... all in all he knows about as much as toy_celi.
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    just because you want to be "different". Why not just take that mentality a couple steps forward and get yourself a Pontiac Aztek?

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    with all due respect to rx7's(i love them!) but he doesnt have much room to talk. the 2nd-3rd gen rx-7's have just enough of their own probs to make them a "un-reliable car" rotaries were once known for engine fires, oil caking, shitty vaccum lines and ratty wiring. but i guess the 3sgte does suck thats why toyota put it in their best rally cars and like won all these awards and it was produced thru ~3 decades and still proved to be powerful in our modern times

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    the 2nd and 3rd gen? there were only 3 gens of RX-7's so you're referrencing to the final gen? The one gen RX-7 I didnt like is the 1st, my uncle use to have one but I find them ugly. I use to study them but sadly a lot of that knowledge is gone now. The major thing I hate about rotaries isnt that they require more maintanace, but they consume a LOT of gas

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    they also burn a shit load of oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWOT
    There IS a camry alltrac, but I'd have left a mushroom shaped bruise on the forehead of the aforementioned rx7 owner
    :lolhittin :lolhittin

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    Lol, thats funny right there....RX7's are renknowned for their reliability.....NOT!

    FWIW there are 3 generations of RX7 but 8 series or models which is why some people get confused about them.
    Gen 1 includes Series 1 (79-80) Series 2 (81-83) & Series 3 (84-85) These are all the original shape with various upgrades and face lifts.
    Gen 2 includes Series 4 (86-88) & Series 5 (89-92) These are the Porsche 944 shape ones and included the first widely available turbo models (there were turbo Series 3's but JDM only)
    Gen 3 includes Series 6 (92-95) Series 7 (96-98) & Series 8 (99-02) These are the 'batmobile' shape.


    And Camry's - junky?? Boring maybe, but not junky - who is this guy?
    8 hours for a clutch job is hardly an ordeal and its not like you have to do that every week! And whoa? 'frighteningly weak transmissions'???? he should take a look at Mazda 323 turbo 4wd, Subaru and Mitsubishi Evo transmissions before throwing stones in the direction of celica's!
    Gotta go clean my transmission with Windowlene and put a drip tray under the engine.......

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    Link to the thread, please.

    Time for some APEX SEALS LOLOLOLZZZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciento44
    Link to the thread, please.

    Time for some APEX SEALS LOLOLOLZZZ
    Yeah! And maybe a high mileage rotary engine poll??

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    Must have confused the glass transmission with another AWD car...the Subies.

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    yeah this guy is absolutely ridiculous. update on what he's said

    "its the same engine design, who cares about the head flow? its still got a weak deck layout, crap crank, and an oil leaker.
    and the transmissions are glass and impossible to find used.

    and for trivia bonus points, this is the car that got toyota thrown out of rally for a year and a half when they got caught cheating by bypassing the turbo restrictor."

    seriously? :thumbsdow

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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363
    Yeah! And maybe a high mileage rotary engine poll??
    high mileage in rotary is like break in time for a 3sgte lol...
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    just because you want to be "different". Why not just take that mentality a couple steps forward and get yourself a Pontiac Aztek?

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    Quote Originally Posted by italianmr2kid
    yeah this guy is absolutely ridiculous. update on what he's said

    "its the same engine design, who cares about the head flow? its still got a weak deck layout, crap crank, and an oil leaker.
    and the transmissions are glass and impossible to find used.

    and for trivia bonus points, this is the car that got toyota thrown out of rally for a year and a half when they got caught cheating by bypassing the turbo restrictor."

    seriously? :thumbsdow
    Link to the thread, please.

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    Wow this kid is a joke, he must be confused with AWD Eclispe Transmissions. 3SGTE's need new turbos at 60k on stock boost? Lawl.
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    if anything, the 3s has a rep with blowing headgaskets and cracking ringlands, but thats because the owners boost em way too high w/o proper tuning. 13b's on the other hand with proper tuning can cause detonation, blown apex seals or engine fires. they make a lot of heat and usually melt things like oh...wiring harnesses, sensors and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363
    Lol, thats funny right there....RX7's are renknowned for their reliability.....NOT!
    its not so much them not being reliable, its that you have to do a lot to maintain them, which means they deffinately are not for everyone

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    Nvm guise, i found the thread lawl.

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    There is a Camry All-Trac in a local junkyard. It would be a neat car to have, maybe do a 3SGTE swap, and tear up some subies with...

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