Carlos Sainz project

**quark** · 03-12-2008

Hi there guys..

You will properly be seeing me alot in her... My project is this...

Looks nice, right?

Easy project, right?

Really nice car, 167.000km and booked all the way.

Horror

:smokin:

Can you see what this is, and what have happend? :thumbsdow

I have a banged up 92 alltrac to take all the parts from, I´am just hoping that the wiring loom is not that different.

**extremeskillz** · 03-12-2008

its nice but what the hell is up with the engine bay. it needs a cleaning real bad.

**bloodMoney** · 03-12-2008

A small fire maybe? I don't really know what else could have caused the localized corrosion. There's a lot of white crap in the bay too... (extinguisher residue maybe?)

Does it run?

~bloodMoney

**tuner4life** · 03-12-2008

I like the color.

**geebes** · 03-12-2008

Oh noes!!

battery jizz?

**quark** · 03-12-2008

Fire and a CO extinguisher... I bought it like this... A guy has mounted a FPR, and that one has blown the return hose off ... :-(

**quark** · 03-12-2008

Look at the red line.

Has anybody seen this mod before?? I cant tell where it has been going because its burned. But it ends up in the oil cap.

Seems really weird to me.

**burnyd** · 03-12-2008

oh snap

**quark** · 03-12-2008

Dont worry guys, its going to live again..
Plans are.

Custom 3" exhaust
MS2 engine mangement, no AFM
upgradede ct26
Cheap Ebay exhaust manifold kit of ebay.
maybe 650 injectors, but are not for sure yet.

**tuner4life** · 03-12-2008

I like your supras!!!! I really want one of those!

**quark** · 03-12-2008

hehe okay guys... :-D You really like those supra´s.. Its also a great car wish can easily make 350hp. But its heavy like shit, and sometimes it feels like driving a tank, until you floor it.

Pictures of the red supra (targa) http://bilgalleri.dk/html/gal_visbil.asp?ID=107805
Pictures of the white supra http://bilgalleri.dk/html/gal_visbil.asp?ID=1519

**Trance4c** · 03-12-2008

That would be a fire from the fuel. The fuel filter is down in that location.. seems there was something that happened between that and the fuel rail. Definitely some work, good luck!

TheAutoholic · 03-12-2008

Originally Posted by quark

Look at the red line.

Has anybody seen this mod before?? I cant tell where it has been going because its burned. But it ends up in the oil cap.

Seems really weird to me.

Never seen or heard of this before. Maybe it contributed to the fire. Oil fires = baaaaad.

**Cavanagh** · 03-15-2008

Love your cars, hope to see this running again soon!

Best of luck.

**alltracman78** · 03-16-2008

What is this?

That is possibly part of the "mod".
Maybe some kind of vent?
Looks too large for anything else, unless it was used to fill the engine. :shrug:

A regular ST185 harness will run the engine, but it is a bit different.
No wiring for your IC pump or IC, nothing to the IC ECU, and you'll have to change the AFM connector.
I would source a ST185 harness and use the wiring to repair the CS wiring.
I've also got a good bit of experience with wiring in general and 3SGTEs as well. :shrug:

**quark** · 03-17-2008

YOU FOUND IT! :-D Thats a aftermarket FPR. It has blown the tube of, and gas has pissed out from there.. Its really looks like amature work.

Okay, the IC pump will be a problem. I just took the Engine wiring out of it yesterday, it worthless, I cut it with a saw.

Is the IC pump on the engine harness? I did notice the plug on the IC for waterlevel. But that sensor is also burned.

Will the stock ST185 harness connect to the Carlos Sainz ECU? And where is the IC ecu located?

I am think you to run the pump over a relay and then skip everything else, where is the pump anyway?

Lots of studip questions i know, but 1 time working on a st185, and oh man it hard to work on compared to my supra´s.

**quark** · 03-17-2008

Ps. I have to use the ST185 AFM, is that a problem?

**cs363** · 03-17-2008

I'm 99% sure the wiring for the pump is part of the engine harness, the stock 185 loom *should* connect to the CS ECU but you will have to swap some of the pins around to suit. The pump is mounted on the chassis rail, left hand front (on the wheel side). If you are going to modify the pump to run constant on you should be able to just wire it in separately anyway. The I/C ECU is mounted in the dash behind the radio, above the main ECU.
You could probably run the ST185 AFM but it is quite a bit smaller and also has different pin-outs to the standard item.
Considering the damage you have there I'd probably be thinking about MAP ECU or similar and getting rid of the AFM completely.

**cs363** · 03-17-2008

Here's a link to the ECU pinouts http://www.alltrac.net/reference/

**celicatrd93** · 03-17-2008

damn that sucks...glad you will fixing it. and that is one sweet ride. love the color

**sheep** · 03-17-2008

all i can say is i cant wait to see when its finished! atm im not jelous but i will be lol

**celicaGT90_05** · 03-17-2008

that car looks great, especially with those wheels. Honestly, it shouldnt be too bad of a fix, pull the motor, clean up the bay, maybe some new spray and if you need a new motor drop it in.

**quark** · 03-17-2008

Originally Posted by cs363

I'm 99% sure the wiring for the pump is part of the engine harness, the stock 185 loom *should* connect to the CS ECU but you will have to swap some of the pins around to suit. The pump is mounted on the chassis rail, left hand front (on the wheel side). If you are going to modify the pump to run constant on you should be able to just wire it in separately anyway. The I/C ECU is mounted in the dash behind the radio, above the main ECU. You could probably run the ST185 AFM but it is quite a bit smaller and also has different pin-outs to the standard item.
Considering the damage you have there I'd probably be thinking about MAP ECU or similar and getting rid of the AFM completely.

okay, thanks for the pinout, that will be helpfull..
Jep i think that i will make the pump run constant.
Okay the AFM i smaller... I have the AFM, but the eletronic is meltede on it, i will try to see if I can swap it around.

I have a MS2 project running. Just need a little more info about the 3sgte engine´s, havnt worked that much with them.. :-) Thats why I am here..

Jep it will be running in juli.

**cs363** · 03-18-2008

Sounds good - best of luck with your project!

**quark** · 03-18-2008

I am think of buying af OEM wiring harness from toyota, but its big bucks. 1500 dollars. And then i need the AFM also.. I dont know what i will do, I would like to keep it as original as possible.

Injectors size Carlos vs. Alltrac?