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    Default Winter project: 1MZ-FE V6 engine swap.

    Now that our local auto-cross season is over (and I won the FSP club champ), I am starting my winter project of swapping in a 1MZ-FE 3.0 V6. The inspiration for this project came from Adrian (on this board) who did this swap to his 5th gen Celica a few years ago. I believe his car is CA smog legal. My car is only used for auto-cross racing, but that may change after I get the swap complete, so I have all the smog equipment for a ’95 model year Avalon, a car with this motor.

    In this thread, I will give details of how I am doing this as I go and provide pix as well. Below I have listed the parts I have collected so far and their source and any notes about the parts. I will add to this thread as time goes by and work continues on the swap. (There will be some time gaps between posts as I am in the middle of doing a bathroom remodel on my house and if I finish that before starting my car, my wife will be much happier.)


    The engine I will be using is from a ’02 Camry that had about 67k miles before it was rolled. The wrecking yard I bought the motor from sponsors our club and said they would give me whatever I needed for the swap. Here is what I have so far:

    ’02 Camry:
    • Engine, complete with all ancillaries and belt, throttle body to exhaust manifolds.
    • Starter
    • Flywheel
    • ECU – 5 plug, 3 connect to the engine harness
    • Complete harness
    • An air tub from a Lexus ES300 with a free flowing MAF

    Notes:
    The ’02 Camry has drive-by-wire, so I will need a mechanical throttle body.
    The exhaust manifolds have integrated cats, so I need different manifolds.
    The fuel-rails are non-return style, not sure I’m going to use these.
    The MAF has 5 wires but a smaller connecter than the one on the Camry harness, I’ll have to see if the pin-out is the same since it is very free-flowing.
    I have requested the following parts from the Camry; the fuel pump assembly (to get the fuel pressure regulator), fuel filter (to get the support bracket incase I use the non-return fuel-rail), the fuse/rely box that should have come with the harness, exhaust manifolds without the cats and the O2 sensor and wire which is located just behind the cat.

    ’95 Avalon parts car (had bad motor but otherwise complete):
    • ECU – 4 plug, 3 connect to engine harness
    • Igniter
    • Complete harness with fuse/rely box
    • Complete intake manifold, both pieces
    • Throttle body, mechanical
    • Fuel-rails, return-style and injectors
    • Fuel filter with bracket, has banjo style connector
    • Charcoal canister(s), incase I want the car to be smog legal
    • Air tube with a very restrictive MAF
    • Exhaust manifolds, shorty header style tube manifolds, with mounting for the air/fuel sensors
    • “Y” exhaust pipe to flange behind the cat

    Notes:
    The fuel rails have a different mounting bolt pattern than on the Camry motor. Luckily I have the intake manifold base which has the correct mounting pattern.
    The injectors from the Avalon engine are a different color than the Camry. Need to find out what the difference is.


    For a transmission, I will be using a 6th gen Celica JDM E??? with LSD.

    Now, you may be asking yourself why I want to do this, well, it’s a lot cheaper than swapping in a turbo motor and a lot lighter. There are a lot less parts to replace/upgrade and the makes about the same power stock, 194 hp and 214 ftlb torque.

    I’ll be adding more when I get more to post and will be getting some pix posted soon.
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    Wewt! This will be superb. I however suggest that this be moved to the Engineering forum for ease of access and relevance.

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    s54 with lsd? I think you would be better with a 3s swap just my opinion but good luck to you.
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    just because you want to be "different". Why not just take that mentality a couple steps forward and get yourself a Pontiac Aztek?

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    Quote Originally Posted by burnyd
    I think you would be better with a 3s swap just my opinion but good luck to you.
    Is that so? And how did you come to that brilliant conclusion, might I ask?
    "The best nut you can tighten is the one behind the wheel."
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    Quote Originally Posted by burnyd
    s54 with lsd? I think you would be better with a 3s swap just my opinion but good luck to you.
    Burnyd d00d, it's going to be an autocross car. 1mzfe doesn't weigh any significant amount more than a 3sgte, probably less, and the powerband they produce are much larger, and even similar power to the wheels of a 3sgte swap.

    1mfze in a 4th gen = sex.

    I have a feeling that my GT is going to recieve a 1mzfe when the 5sfe goes kaboom.

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    88GT2GTS you ever get that PM I sent ya about the brake conversion?!?!!?!!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thgenceli
    88GT2GTS you ever get that PM I sent ya about the brake conversion?!?!!?!!?
    Sure did and I know I replied to it because I remember reading and repling to it. Unfortunitely, I had to dump a bunch of PM's for space reasons, so could you re-PM me with the question(s)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Avgerinos
    Is that so? And how did you come to that brilliant conclusion, might I ask?
    Well sir... being that the motor a has more potential. Its alot easier to swap. auto cross / road race holding boost at top end around corners and the acceleration is much much much much much much better with that motor. Putting that motor on with something liek a e153.. I think thats what he ment only makes it worse with taller gears trying to accelerate from corner to corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciento44
    Burnyd d00d, it's going to be an autocross car. 1mzfe doesn't weigh any significant amount more than a 3sgte, probably less, and the powerband they produce are much larger, and even similar power to the wheels of a 3sgte swap.

    1mfze in a 4th gen = sex.

    I have a feeling that my GT is going to recieve a 1mzfe when the 5sfe goes kaboom.
    right it weighs less or maybe equal to. A 3sgte is a really really heavy motor for a 4cly.

    The powerband with the motor and a e153 is going to be really weak with the gearing. Honestly its not going to be fun at all. Just imho. But hey its his car I hope it works out good.
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    just because you want to be "different". Why not just take that mentality a couple steps forward and get yourself a Pontiac Aztek?

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    Quote Originally Posted by burnyd
    Well sir... being that the motor a has more potential. Its alot easier to swap. auto cross / road race holding boost at top end around corners and the acceleration is much much much much much much better with that motor. Putting that motor on with something liek a e153.. I think thats what he ment only makes it worse with taller gears trying to accelerate from corner to corner.
    Actually, for the transmission, I said what I meant. At the time I thought I was getting an S54, which is what I said. Turns out I am getting an E series tranny, but I currently have an S54 in the car which I could also use. The torque curve of the 1MZFE is very flat and comes in very early, which is great for autocross. I have been considering going to an FE motor for some time because of the flat torque curve. The 3SGE is great on the long fast parts of the track, but it sucks coming out of the hole in the slower parts. The 2nd gen. MR2s with the 3SFE usually kick my butt. Typically there are more slower parts to auto-cross courses than fast.
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    Car weight – before swap:

    I took the car to a local truck scale that weighs by the axle. The areas around the scales are flat so I figured I could also get corner weights. As you can see from the weights below, the total of the corner weights don’t equal the total of the axle weight. Tried approaching the scales from both directions and the weight was always the same. I just wanted a reference point of before and after the swap, so as long as the scales are consistent, I’ll get a good comparison.

    The weights are of the car as I race it, no spare tire, jack, tools, AC, CC, with a quarter tank of gas, helmet and me @ 150 lbs.

    FR axle 1750
    RR axle 1050
    Car total 2800

    RFR corner 740
    LFR corner 800
    FR axle total 1540

    RRR corner 470
    LRR corner 420
    RR axle total 890
    Car total 2430
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    Engine shots:
    front side:

    drivers side:

    back side:

    passenger side:


    Exhaust:


    Y pipe. notice how the primary pipe on the back side goes down under the motor then u-turns back into the exhaust? this was done to keep the primarys equal length.


    MAF:
    '95 Avalon to ? Lexus ES300:

    Lexus ES300:

    '95 Avalon:

    '95 Avalon inside air box:


    Back side motor mount. A bracket for this mount will need to be fab'd. I will be using the mount that is part of the carrier bracket:
    Motor mount, '02 Camry:

    Motor mount on carrier bracket. 2 "L" shaped brackets will be fab'd that will bolt to the suspension crossmember and connect to this mount.

    This photo shows the "L" brackets I will need to make. (This photo was "barrowed" from Adrian, hope it's ok):


    Fuel rail comp, return style vs non-return style:
    '95 Avalon, return style:

    '02 Camry, non-return style:



    ECU's:


    Pile of parts:

    All parts '95 Avalon except were noted
    1. air tube
    2. air box
    3. intake base
    4. intake upper
    5. exhaust manifold – front side
    6. engine harness
    7. fuel rail – return style
    8. fuel filter
    9. Lexus air tube and box
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    Awesome, just be sure to update it when its in and running....best of luck!
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    wicked post. I was thinking about adrian's swap just this weekend. The old 3sfe is starting to show it's age and I was considering this swap too. I figure it's the same amount of work to put in a 3sge as it would be to do this. The advantages are numerous (as you've described). I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this post!
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    good work should eb interesting. i think NA is a good choice for autox anyway no more 4g low end torque problems . if u need to get rid of the ge to some1.....im lookin to autox a bit more this year and could use it mines not too perfect these days

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    I've been thinking about doing a similar swap on and off for awhile now. In my case I was thinking about doing a 2VZ-FE. My primary concern is which transmission to use. I've heard that the e154 will bolt up to a 2VZ-FE, but I'm not sure what else will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garbled
    I've been thinking about doing a similar swap on and off for awhile now. In my case I was thinking about doing a 2VZ-FE. My primary concern is which transmission to use. I've heard that the e154 will bolt up to a 2VZ-FE, but I'm not sure what else will.
    Check the MR2 owners forum. They have a sub-forum dedicated to the V6 conversion. I found a lot of useful info there.

    http://www.mr2oc.com/
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    Looks like I will be starting this project this coming Monday (2/12), a month later than I had hoped to start.
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    Default Starter comparisons

    Here is a comparison of a few different starters I have, thanks to this project. The small starter used on my '02 1MZ-FE motor will bolt right up and work on a 3S-FE, which means it will work on s 5S-FE and 3S-GE motor as well. So if you want a smaller and lighter starter, just use the one for an '02 Camry.

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    '93 NA MR2 - autocross car and driver
    '05 Honda CRV - wife's car
    '07 Coroalla LE - my daily driver
    '95 Ford F250
    Our local autocross track:
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    Default Throttle body comparison.

    Just for the heck of it, I thought I would compare the tb of the 3S-GE to the V6. The 4 bolt holes that hold the tb to the manifold are the same, which means the V6 throttle body will bolt to the 3S-FE manifold. The V6 tb has a little bigger openning and the configuration is the same except that the cable connects on the opposite side of the throttle lever.

    Added 2/25/07:
    The bore size at the blade of the 3S-GE is 2.165" and on the V6, it is 2.360", .195" larger.

    The stock Celica throttle cable could be used by routing the cable straight out from the firewall towards the front of the car then curl it back to the TB. I did resently look at the Avalon that I took a lot of the parts from and the cable is much shorter and would look much cleaner on the Celica. Most likely, any cable from a Camry/Avalon/Solara should work.



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    '07 Coroalla LE - my daily driver
    '95 Ford F250
    Our local autocross track:
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    Default Things to consider

    In this post I'll try to document as many of the things you would need to consider when doing this swap. Most of the information here will be stuff I learn as I do the swap.

    First, the motor. Obviously you are going to want to get the newest motor you can find. Mine is a '02 motor from a Camry with about 67k miles. One thing to keep in mind is that the newer the motor, usually the more electronic controls that will need to be replaced with manual controls.

    The motor has a drive-by-wire throttle body. Part of the deal I have with wrecking yard where I bought the motor was that they are going to include everything I need to do the conversion, within reason. So they gave me a manual TB off an older model. I also have the manual TB from the Avalon.

    The motor also has an electronically controlled EGR valve. I plan to just remove the EGR valve and components since I only race the car, but have a manual EGR valve setup off the Avalon incase I decide to drive the car on the street (which is not even necessary since I don't have to smog my car were I live).

    The motor also had catalytic converters integrated into the exhaust manifolds. The yard did not have the older style manifolds, the shorty header style, but I was able to trade my manifolds for a pair that the local Toyota dealer had on a 1MZ-FE display motor in the service writer's area. They have a sludged up motor on display.

    The motor also has a non-return style fuel rail, so I have one of 2 choices. I could easily leave the non-return fuel rail on the motor and install the FPR on the fuel pump assembly. I have the whole fuel pump assembly from the Camry which includes the fuel pump and the FPR. You will also need a higher pressure fuel pump as the ECU is expecting 50 psi. I could also go with the return style fuel rails so the fuel system would work as the 3S motor does. The return style fuel rails have the FPR as part of the fuel rail. I will still need a higher pressure FP, which I have from the Camry. I also have the return style fuel rails from the Avalon. It appears that the bolt pattern to hold the fuel rails to the intake is different between the two types of fuel rails I have. Luckily I took the whole intake manifold from the Avalon.

    Motor mounts. Looking at different models and years of cars with the 1MZ-FE, I have noticed there are a few different motor mount configurations. Most have a mount of the very front of the motor that connects to the passenger side of the engine bay. This appears to be more of a torque dampener (?) as it is not really a mount that supports the engine, but rather a way to restrict the twisting movement of the engine. I plan to fabricate a bracket that adapts this mount on the motor to the stock 3S motor mount. My motor also has a rubber mount on the front of the motor, seen in the pictures below the power steering pump). This will be removed as there is no way to attach it to anything. What I will do instead is replace the idle axel shaft support mount with a mount that has a motor mount integrated, as seen in the pictures above. This will allow me to fabricate 2 "L" brackets that will attach to the suspension cross-member.


    Transmissions. There are a few options for transmissions. From what I've read, but the E and S series transmissions will bolt right up. For a daily driver or a car that will be driven on a road course, the best choice will probably be a Camry V6 or Solara manual trans as the gearing is more suited for the low RPM of the 1MZ-FE. I have a '96 S54 trans and plan to try that trans first. The gearing of these transmission are better suited for the higher revving 3S-GE motors, but since I use the car for auto-cross racing, which is much slower than a road course, the gearing may be better. If not I'll go with the Camry trans. If you use an S trans with this motor, you will need to use the clutch disc from the S trans and a pressure plate for an E trans. The flywheel for the V6 has a different pressure plate bolt and dowel pin pattern. I suppose you could re-drill the flywheel if you wanted. From what I have read about using an E trans, you will need to use the inner axle on the drivers side and the intermediate shaft (the parts that bolt to the trans output flanges, similar to the 3S-FE auto trans) from an "E" series trans and the axle shafts from an Alltrac. You will also need to use the trans mounts from an Alltrac and an Alltrac cross-member. When using the S trans you can just use the S series mounts and cross-member. The intermediate shaft will need to be machined. Below is the best description of what needs to be done that I have been able to find.

    You will need to move the axle carrier bearing inboard about 1/8", or 3mm. This will require that you cut a new groove for the c-clip, install a custom spacer between the bearing and outer side of the axle, and press it all back together. Test fit and make your own measurements as there seems to be some difference in the mounts. Some have used 1/4" spacing for new '93+ MR2 LSD trannies.

    While installing the motor, I attempted to bolt the S54 tranny to the V6 and here's what I found. The tranny doesn't directly bolt up. The top 2 larger bolts line up and the 2 dowel pins line up. Another bolt hole in the tranny just below the dowel hole on the front side of the tranny needs to be drilled out to install a bolt. Another hole on the back side of the tranny lines up, but the hole in the tranny and the engine are threaded. The hole in the engine is larger, so I was able to thread in a smaller bolt into the tranny. There’s another threaded hole in the tranny that lines up with a hole part way drilled in the motor and has a flat surface on the back side. I could drill the hole through the motor and install a small bolt. There’s also a hole in the trany that lines up with another in the motor that is partly drilled. I would have to finish drilling the hole and then tap it. I believe I could end up with 6 bolts plus the 2 dowel pins which should be enough.

    Another thing I found out while installing the motor is that the trans cross-member needs to be notched a little to clear the engine. I’ll post pix of the modified cross-member when complete and pix of it installed. It also looks like the rear side stock exhaust manifold may dump right into the trans cross-member. I’ll find out once the cross-member is modified and I can install it.

    Electrical. I’m saving this one for a separate post in this thread. I will be using the ’95 Avalaon ECU and harness though.

    Water flow through the engine is “backwards” from the 3S motors. The thermostat is at the top of the front of the engine (passenger side), so a hose will need to be routed from here to the top connection on the radiator on the driver’s side. The water inlet is located at the back of the motor, on the driver’s side, which will need to be routed to the lower radiator connection on the passenger side.

    The throttle cable on the V6 mounts to the front side of the TB instead of the back side like the 3S motors do. Using the stock cable will cause there to be a lot of extra cable. I’m looking for a better solution to this.

    A/C compressor and fitment: I don’t use the A/C compressor now and I will not be using it when I install the V6. I have the compressor and will at least see if it will fit. The MR2 guys use the compressor from the V6 and cut the lines coming from the compressor and have them welded to the lines on the MR2 so they can still have A/C. This may be the solution for Celica V6 swap if you wanted A/C.

    Power Steering pump: I’m going to try to use the V6 PSP.

    Alternator: I believe I should be able to use the Camry or Avalon alternator since I’ll be using the Avalon engine harness.

    Fuel line adaptation: the fuel line on the ’02 fuel rail connects with quick-disconnect type fittings. The fuel filter for the Avalon happens to be almost the exact same as the 4th gen. In fact the ONLY difference is that the Celica filter has a built in bracket and the Avalon doesn’t, it is supported by a separate bracket. So, since I plan to use the Avalon return style fuel rails, the fuel line will connect directly to the Celica fuel filter.
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    '88 GTS - autocross car - V6 swap - I'm for sale
    '93 NA MR2 - autocross car and driver
    '05 Honda CRV - wife's car
    '07 Coroalla LE - my daily driver
    '95 Ford F250
    Our local autocross track:
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    Default 2/13/07 - Official start of project.

    Today I finally started my project! I didn't have a lot of time, so I only got a few things done. I drained all fluids except the power steering fluid, removed the battery, air box and tube, fans, radiator, overflow tank and the lower engine covers. Hopefully I'll get everything else disconnected and/or removed tomorrow and the motor will be ready to pull.

    Here's a couple (boring) pix of the before:

    Jim -
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    '93 NA MR2 - autocross car and driver
    '05 Honda CRV - wife's car
    '07 Coroalla LE - my daily driver
    '95 Ford F250
    Our local autocross track:
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    Default Electrical stuff

    Electrical. Since I had some time before I actually started this project, I downloaded the electrical manuals for the ’02 Camry and the ’95 Avalon, form the Toyota tech site, which I recommend anyone do before they attempt this swap.

    For the engine management, I will be using the ’95 Avalon ECU and harness as it has less electronic controls. The ECU I have is for an automatic, but from everything I have read, it shouldn’t matter. It will throw some CELs, so if you need a smog legal swap, you will have to deal with the CELs.

    The ECU has 4 connectors, 3 of which are on the engine harness. I read through the manual to find all the destinations of the wires from the 4th connector. Of the # wires, I only need to deal with # wires, # go to the O2 sensor and the other # go to the ?. Simple enough.

    Some of the wires on the engine harness connect to 3 different connectors in a fuse/relay box, which has a total of # connectors. Of the other # connectors that I don’t have, # wires are used on2 different connectors of the radiator fans. (Next change I get, I am going to get the relay box from the Avalon that has the other 2 fan relays so I have all the connectors and wiring). I am going to try to bypass all the factory wiring for the fan relays as there are a total of 3 relays used, which also receive input from the A/C circuits. I am going to try to use 1 relay triggered by the engine temp which and I will have a manual override switch to turn the fans on whenever I want, like after a hard run and the motor is shut off.

    Other things I need to look at electrical wise are the items that have a fuse/relay in the box that the main harness of the Celica connects to, like the head lights, etc.

    Guages…
    Jim -
    '88 GTS - autocross car - V6 swap - I'm for sale
    '93 NA MR2 - autocross car and driver
    '05 Honda CRV - wife's car
    '07 Coroalla LE - my daily driver
    '95 Ford F250
    Our local autocross track:
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    Default some pix to drool over

    Here's a few pix of the motor being installed.

    The motor is not all the way bolted in yet, I need to modify the trans mount cross-member. I've added more notes to the consideration post.

    Here's the S54 tranny bolted to the V6 ready to be installed.


    Here's the motor on it's way in.


    Almost in.


    The motors in position now but not bolted in.


    Here's a few pix of the clearance with the V6 in.




    More pix and info to come. I'll have detailed pix of the 2 mounts I need to fab.
    Jim -
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    '93 NA MR2 - autocross car and driver
    '05 Honda CRV - wife's car
    '07 Coroalla LE - my daily driver
    '95 Ford F250
    Our local autocross track:
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