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    Default 3sgte swap VS SRT4, 40-80mph speedo video

    I found these two speedo videos and decided to join them together to show how the 3sgte swap compares to the doge srt4. i believe the celica in the video belongs to Four from 6gc and is probably running at about 10-12psi. the neon is stock and runs 14psi from the factory.

    the gearing seem to be the same in the 2 cars as both drivers shift right at 60mph. if you slow the video down and watch the counter, youll notice the celica is about 1 sec faster in the 40-80mph.

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    http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1tq19/speedo.wmv

    if the video tries to save as speedo.htm ... then just rename it to speedo.wmv and it should play fine

    http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1tq19/5th gen st 40-80.wmv

    for comparison sake, here is a 5th gen st doing the same 40-80
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    Well that's a 5th gen gauge cluster, and I swear I've seen that celica video before.

    Cool vid though.
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    no its a 6th gen. 5th gens have orangeish needles.

    the celica vid has been posted before...like i said, its not my car... but i was looking around the srt forums and found an almost exact vid of what the celica did, so i decided to join them to show the 2 cars side by side.
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    Pretty cool!

    I sort of expected that based on what I've seen at the track.
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    Good stuff.

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    Oh dang, I guess I've never sat in a 6th gen. They both have ugly ass green dash lights? ick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snafu
    Oh dang, I guess I've never sat in a 6th gen. They both have ugly ass green dash lights? ick.

    3SGTE = A shitload more top end.

    yeah the stock gauges on a 6th gen dont look all that great, but thats an easy fix with some cheap indiglo gauges.
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    damn some cheap coloured bulbs change the look quite nicely

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    What the hell, its says it a HTML document, and all i get is code, even when i save target as. Something is up with that....

    That speedo vid of Alex's car is VERY old, and he also had a leak in his intake manifold. I havent seen this vid yet with it side by side, but, I've been with him, and I've been to, a couple SRT-4 meets. Its been very well documented, intake and exhaust is ample to walk a stock SRT-4. Turn the boost up, and its not even an issue. I myself have raced an intake and exhaust SRT-4, and walked him pretty bad.

    Stage 2 SRT-4's, will trap in the high 100's, as in 106-110, and your going to have to add a DP 14psi, intake and exhaust, and have a good run to take one. Im still waiting on a race for a Stage 2, neat cars though.

    Alex also walked a stock one quite a while ago, i'll see if i can bring him in here....

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    This should also be moved mod's......

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    Interesting, they deleted my post race thread over there, but none of the pre race stuff. Guess it is pretty embarrassing getting beat by a celica, bwah, ah well.

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    sean... if the file saved as speedo.htm then just rename it to speedo.wmv
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    or just type the file name as speedo.wmv

    works the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snafu
    Oh dang, I guess I've never sat in a 6th gen. They both have ugly ass green dash lights? ick.

    3SGTE = A shitload more top end.
    Definitely, this is where we would really walk them. That 260 lbs of torque from the factory gives them a pretty good 2nd gear start.

    Edit: Thanks Lago's, that did the trick. I learned something new today

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    Sean you could have also right clicked an open with/ wmv. Yeah those guages on that celica look pretty retro compared to the srt4. Maybe cause it was done at night. I think both cars are about the same. Maybe its me but the celica might be slightly faster. I'm just celica biased though.

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    actually, the celica gets there a full second faster by my eyes Celica it looks like it takes around 5, SRT-4, around 6

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    hehe those cars would own mine specially with my slipping clutch

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    while i was cutting up and splicing these speedo videos, i put them in slow motion and watched the counter. the celica was exactly 1sec faster on the counter. now in the real world, this would probably end up being a drivers race, but i think is shows just how worth while the swap really is....

    now we just need a stock GT and ST to do 40-80mph vids!
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    Holy shit, I guessed correctly! I dont know man, if you gain 1 second in a 40-80 race, thats quite a substantial lead You can travel 117 feet at 80 MPH in 1 second, 1 second earlier, the SRT-4 is doing about 75, which is a good 10 feet behind at this point.

    Thats why I make such a big deal out of walking any SRT-4, there such a great car to compare a Swapped celica too. If your keeping up with a brand new 2.4 liter turbo, your doing a pretty damn good job Quite the testament to the 3S, and the chassis it should've been installed in from the factory. GST anybody?

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    I think the GTS should have been the stock fwd 3s powered celica I like that better then ripping off mitsubishi.

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    Guys, Im REALLY bored, so excuse me

    I figured out there accelerations with velocity= (velocity initial) + (acceleration x time)

    The Celica's acceleration in that given time period, 3.5746 meters per second
    The SRT-4's acceleration in that given time, was 2.978 meters per second

    Quite the difference

    Using another forumula:
    Distance is = (intial distance (which is zero)) + (initial velocity x time) + .5(acceleration x (time squared)).

    With there given accelerations that i gave above, in 5 seconds of full throttle action:

    Celica Travels: 134 Meters
    SRT-4 Travels: 126 Meters Difference of, 8 meters, or roughly 24 feet.

    Thats about 2.5 car lengths in a 5 second span, quite the difference

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    anyone know the curb weight of our swaped cars vs the srt4s?
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    2970 for the SRT-4
    2646 for the Celica Hatch

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    Damn, im still impressed that my physics book came in handy for a change. Excuse me please....

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    sean, the figure your getting of 2646, does that mean 5th gen or 6th gen liftback?

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