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thundr51
08-31-2005, 03:28 PM
Aside from the obvious engine differences, are there any aftermarket interior/exterior parts/mods that can't be used for GT that can be used on the GTS? One example is the Speedometer/Tachometer display. I've seen this on several sites, but can it only be used for the GTS and not the GT?

Tires is also something i'm interested in. The tire size for my Gt is 15x6.5 (I think, not sure) If I wanted to get something bigger 16-18' would it fit?

Anybody know of a list of general differences between the two models? Is there anything the GT has over the GTS?

AllOutRed90
08-31-2005, 05:05 PM
Both have a 5x100 Bolt pattern as do most other celica's and toyota model cars. So yes the rims are interchangeable, the biggest rim ive seen fit on a celica safely was a 19' wheel. As for the engine, one has a vvtli one doesnt, meaning on can hit lift the other cannot. The differences also are the standard options... Leather, Power, I.E.....

As long as the display gauges have the same all-out look to them then you can use either, im pretty sure they are interchangeable. That being said, the biggest difference was the engine. Everything else is the same or can be made the same.

badceli
08-31-2005, 05:18 PM
I'm no expert, but I'll try to answer your questions.

1. The gauge face is not interchangable. You can get an aftermarket gauge face for either one, but have to specify if you want GT or GT-S. I got one from ebay that matches the lights on my aftermarket gauges for $10. You can also ask Dooly on NC.org to make you a custom face. He is making one for me with a 200 mph limit on it. Yes, 200 is my top speed goal. I think c2gas holds the record with 168 mph. Not sure if anybody has gone higher than that yet. Dooly's thread....
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=181498

2. Bigger wheels will fit your GT. 19x8.5 on the front and 19x9.5 is the biggest I have seen on a stock GT. One guy put 20's, but had to cut some stuff back. I'm sure you know that the bigger the wheel, the slower your car will be though.

3. The only thing the GT has over the GT-S is that the motor holds up better at high boost. GT-S guys will definitely say bullshit to that, but every turboed GT-S that I know of, has had a lot of trouble with things like spun rod bearings etc. I think the GT holds up better because the design of the motor is simple. When the GT-S goes into lift while boosting, shit goes wrong. I think Smaay hates it when people say the GT is better, but these are just my opinions. I could be wrong.

Well, I'm sure you know all the little differences between the two, like disc brakes on the back and a 6 speed. Hope this helps.

badceli
08-31-2005, 05:24 PM
Sorry Whyte_FithGen90, I was writing as you posted that. Didn't want you to think I was just trying to correct you. Didn't see your post.

AllOutRed90
08-31-2005, 05:59 PM
No its ok bud.... I have a 5th gen anyways, i just do alot of talking and research to 7th genners...like on EC and Allgen....its ok man... :)

thundr51
08-31-2005, 10:15 PM
Thanx for all the help guys. I really appreciate the comments.

ibanezgfx
09-01-2005, 05:40 AM
from what i read gts are a lot better to turbo cause they are much lower compression engines.

Edicius
09-01-2005, 08:13 AM
GT
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1zzfe
bore x stroke: 79.0mmx91.5mm
compression: 10.0:1
hp: 140 @ 6400 rpm
tq: 125 @ 4200 rpm
transmission: 5-speed manual or 4 speed ECT
brakes: power assisted 10.8 in. ventilated front disc /rear drum
curb weight: 2425/2460
wheels: standard:195/60/15 on steel wheels with covers
optional: 195/60/15 on 5 spoke aluminum alloy wheels
tire type: all season
mpg manual: 27/33
mpg auto: 29/36
fogs - optional
leather wrapped steering wheel and manual shift lever - n/a
power windows w/ retained power and driver's auto down feature - optional
power door locks w/ anti-lockout feature - optional
cruise control - optional
drilled aluminum sport pedals - n/a
am/fm cd w/ 6 speakers - standard
6 disc changer w/ 6 speakers - optional
jbl 3 in1 am/fm cassette/6 disc changer w/ 8 speakers - n/a
leather trimmer sport seats - n/a

GT-S
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2zzge
bore x stroke: 82.0mm x 85.0mm
compression ratio: 11.5:1
hp: 180 @ 7600 rpm
tq: 130 @ 6800 rpm
transmission: 6-speed manual or 4 speed sportshift ECT
brakes: power assisted with 10.8 in ventilated front disc/10.6 in solid rear disc
curb weight: 2500/2580
wheels: standard: 205/55/15 on 5 spoke aluminum alloy wheels
optional: 205/50/16 on 5 spoke aluminum alloy wheels
tire type: performance
mpg manual: 24/33
mpg auto: 25/31
fogs - standard
leather wrapped steering wheel and manual shift lever - standard
power windows w/ retained power and driver's auto down feature - standard
power door locks w/ anti-lockout feature - standard
cruise control - standard
drilled aluminum sport pedals - standard
6 disc changer w/ 6 speakers - standard
jbl 3 in1 am/fm cassette/6 disc changer w/ 8 speakers - optional
leather trimmer sport seats - optional

AllOutRed90
09-01-2005, 03:05 PM
Yeah ive read about alot more powerful turboed GTS's compared to the weaker powered GT. If i was to turbo i would start with a more powerfull engine. Turboing a 5sfe is like turboing a GT, why not just turbo a 3sge instead? right,......

Edicius
09-01-2005, 10:32 PM
definetly need to lower the compression ratio first though.

Smaay
09-10-2005, 12:50 AM
from what i read gts are a lot better to turbo cause they are much lower compression engines.

got that backwards buddy. GT's are better

badceli
09-10-2005, 06:03 AM
got that backwards buddy. GT's are better

WHAT THE FUCK?!!!!!! I can't believe you just said that. Can I put that in my sig?