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Galcobar
07-18-2005, 10:44 PM
Looking for voices of experience with installing the Eibach Pro-Kit 8207.140 on fifth- and sixth-gen Celicas, particularly liftbacks.

According to Eibach, I got the right springs, 8207.101 for the fronts (which seem to fit) and 8212.102 for the rear, which seem to be not even close.

Got a feeling the pics I uploaded to Photobucket are huge, so I'll post the URLs instead (looking for quick responses on this, be talking to Eibach Technical Support tomorrow when the tech is actually in). I'll see what I can do to modify the sizes when I can.

Short story: Stock springs are wide at the bottom, narrow at the top, with a flat upper coil to mate to the strut mount (there being no upper spring seat on the rear struts). Eibachs are much smaller at the bottom, to the point they can slide around in the seat. The tops are so large the strut mount can't cover them all, and the uppermost coil lacks the flat mating surface.

I ended up installing the new struts and mounts using the stock springs because I could see no way to properly fit the Eibachs.

Do these look like the Pro-kit you installed on your car, and if so how did you seat them correctly?
Eibachs on old struts and mounts (not secured)
top: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/Galcobar/P1060325-Web.jpg
bottom: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/Galcobar/P1060323-Web.jpg
whole thing: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/Galcobar/P1060322-Web.jpg

For comparison, these are the stock springs on new struts and mounts:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/Galcobar/P1060328-Web.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/Galcobar/P1060327-Web.jpg

SilverCel
07-18-2005, 11:14 PM
i think you have it upside down.

Luis C
07-18-2005, 11:28 PM
In my case I had the front ones the right side up (according to Eibach with the white lettering readable) and the rear went in upside down (eiback lettering upside down to) else there is no other way

BEAMS
07-19-2005, 01:51 AM
i think you have it upside down.
:stupid: I would also clean and repaint that strut but by now its probably all done.

Galcobar
07-19-2005, 02:28 AM
The old struts have been replaced by KYBs, which are on the car wearing the stock springs. The old struts were used just for display purposes.

Eibach's very picky about installing their springs upside down -- you can tell which side is supposed to be up by the lettering. The way I have it is right-side up.

What I'm hearing is nobody prior to me told Eibach their springs don't actually fit our cars the way they're supposed to. Interesting.

Galcobar
07-19-2005, 05:39 PM
Just got off the phone with a tech named Mark from Eibach, and according to him the springs are just stamped wrong and he'll bring that up at our next meeting, and in the meantime installing them upside down won't affect them at all.

Little iffy about this though, considering one of his initial comments was about the solid rear axle on 90-99 Celicas. Considering we have no axle, never mind a solid one, on any model but the GT4 makes me question their product info.

That, and the fact they goofed on stamping both the Pro-Kit and Sportsline (according to a guy who installed the Sportlines).

And finally, the lack of a flat mating surface for the strut mount as seen on the stock springs and the front springs for the Eibach.


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Cliff notes: Eibach says to ignore its express instructions and install springs any way that will fit.

Luis C
07-19-2005, 05:45 PM
Next meeting...? hahaha... I bet they've had more than 2.000 meetings since I bought my springs in 2002 and yet nobody has bought the issue up. Expect to see more posts like this in the future... har har har

SilverCel
07-19-2005, 08:34 PM
Told ya.