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CelicaGT4
06-11-2005, 09:34 PM
I got to the track late so I only got 1 run in. I was on RA-1 drag radials and got a 1.97 60ft (very good for FWD and non LSD). I was bookin through gears like no other and hit fourth gear and my intercooler pipe busted off...damn cheap clams. (T-clamps) are on order. coasted through the finish line in neutral with a 13.15@106,sucks. That could have been my low 12 sec pass I've been longing for 2 years now. Next week will be different.

This was at 18psi and 93 pump. Next time I'll be tuned for 22 psi and on race gas. Maybe C16 if I can burn it descent, otherwise I'll go with the Bricko 110. I'll keep you guys posted.

Lagos
06-11-2005, 10:20 PM
T-clamps are a must!

what turbo are you on?

ChrisD
06-11-2005, 10:26 PM
Wow, thats very quick. Good job. Can't wait to see what you do with your IC pipe fixed up.

And :stupid: what turbo are you using? I'm not too familiar with your specific set up, fill me in on your mods!

CelicaGT4
06-11-2005, 10:39 PM
550cc injectors, ported head, lightened flywheel, CM stage 4 clutch, Precision t3/t04e 60 trim with .63 a/r, SAFC II, Zeitronix wideband, aeromotive AFPR, Griffin radiator, Dijon Tool 12x30x3in fmic, tubular SS manifold (cuztom made, not SS auto chrome), full 3in downpipe and exhaust, no muffler or cat, Tial 38mm wastegate, Turboxs 2 stage MBC, modified fuel rail, Walbro 255 fuel pump, short throw shifter, and I think that about covers it. I'm sure I'm forgeting something. I need 272 cams REALLY bad, i'm just poor.

ChrisD
06-11-2005, 10:49 PM
Wow now I'm impressed. All that on the SAFC and AFM. Ever get a chance to dyno that? How quick does that turbo spool up? Also there are a few tests out there showing the differences between the 264's and the 272 cams...basically the result was that there was extremely little benefit to running the 272's.

I just got my zeitronix wide band, going to install it today i think. :)

Lagos
06-11-2005, 11:21 PM
celica3sgte over at 6gc.net just posted his dyno sheet with that same turbo.

2nd gen 3s swap, FMIC, 550 cc injectors, 3" downpipe and exhaust, s-afc, wolfkatz fuel rail, T3/T04e 60trim turbo

http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL668/2753011/5515351/98875874.jpg

i hope he dosnt mind me posting his dyno sheet here

MoralWarfare
06-11-2005, 11:32 PM
damn, nice numbers :)

did you run the GTS?

CelicaGT4
06-11-2005, 11:34 PM
Do you know what PSI that dyno was at? Pretty much the same setup as I've got.

ChrisD, I hit full boost at 4100rpm. It's kind of laggy but it is very much needed to run the times I want to run. After the season is over I think I will put a 50 trim on and head down to the AutoX. I guarentee you will love your Zeitronix, i hope you have a laptop cuz you will need it to get full use out of it. I data logged every RPM and spent hours fine tuning it on the AFC. I hit 11.6-11.8/1 afr throughout my entire rpms when at 90-100% throttle.

CelicaGT4
06-11-2005, 11:37 PM
And no, I didn't run the GTS. I was already late, running my GT was top priority yesterday. I will next weekend. BTW, there was a 90 GT out there running 16.4's consistantly on stock 5sfe with intake and exhaust. He might be buying my car here soon.

MoralWarfare
06-11-2005, 11:41 PM
what was he using for tires?

ChrisD
06-12-2005, 01:42 AM
ChrisD, I hit full boost at 4100rpm. It's kind of laggy but it is very much needed to run the times I want to run. After the season is over I think I will put a 50 trim on and head down to the AutoX. I guarentee you will love your Zeitronix, i hope you have a laptop cuz you will need it to get full use out of it. I data logged every RPM and spent hours fine tuning it on the AFC. I hit 11.6-11.8/1 afr throughout my entire rpms when at 90-100% throttle.

Thats not too bad really. I've seen much worse. CT26 upgrades typically spool about that slow too.

The zeitronix is ready to go as soon as I toss the o2 sensor in the bung, had to soak it in liquid wrench as it seems my plug has welded itself in place there. haha. All I use is a laptop, haven't actually used a desktop PC in a long time come to think of it. I've been having some problems with the screen distorting with dark colours, which is kind of bad to view the ZT program. Do you know if there's any way to change the background colour to white? Or maybe I can save the data and load it in excel? If not i can make do.

:)

Lagos
06-12-2005, 02:13 AM
im told that dyno run was at 10psi

CelicaGT4
06-12-2005, 06:36 AM
im told that dyno run was at 10psi


That makes me happy right there!

AllOutRed90
06-12-2005, 06:55 AM
wow i bet you got like 325 HP

CelicaGT4
06-12-2005, 07:26 AM
On pump gas

AllOutRed90
06-12-2005, 08:04 AM
yeah damn thats crazy...wish mine was swapped...i wish there was someone around here to do it for me...hmmm...

MoralWarfare
06-12-2005, 03:00 PM
there is. yourself.

nuclearhappines
06-12-2005, 03:55 PM
http://www.speedworldmotorplex.com/calc.htm

i tried that with your numbers and 2900 lbs

says 257-270 hp (obviously your speed indicates a higher hp than your et because you put down most of your power in the higher gears and rpms (fwd and laggy turbo))

changed the numbers to 12.15 et and 112mph (your goal?) and you need about 320wheel hp to do it, but again you'd probably do it at around 115-116mph because of how your top end works. so 320 to 350 whp will do it

you probably already have that much power : ) ... good luck getting there.
Low 13s is already sickly fast for most street cars.

CelicaGT4
06-12-2005, 08:29 PM
I had a low 12 that run, I could feel it. Maybe next time, there's always another day. I got all summer. I'm stoked to see what it will do on 22psi and c16 race gas. Probly more power than I could handle with my torque steer problem, lol.

Mister2ownzU
06-13-2005, 12:02 AM
its good to see that 400whp daily driving monster has almost got u in the 12's....

Aust162
06-14-2005, 10:04 AM
For the mean time, you might as well call it a 12sec car:D Awesome results dude.

btw: are you running a s53/s54 gearbox still?standard driveshafts?

Sean
06-14-2005, 03:56 PM
For the mean time, you might as well call it a 12sec car:D Awesome results dude.



This he can not, speculations are just not worthy.

Congrats, keep us updated!

Snafu
06-14-2005, 08:00 PM
Well, 106 mph with good traction is for sure low 13's/ high 12's. I think that if you get some more practive with the car, and don't have any chargepipes blow off (haha), you could land yourself a solid 12 second run, easy.

Nice job, I bet that thing pulls up top like crazy :)

CelicaGT4
06-14-2005, 10:35 PM
3rd and 4th gear book down the track, I'll tell ya that much. That 60ft. on that run was the best I've ever done, I don't know if I could reproduce it or not. Track conditions were optimal. We'll see though......


Mister2ownzu, that was only my second time with that car at the track.

Sean
06-14-2005, 11:19 PM
106 trap speed is decent, I dont think your making as much power as you think. You should get that thing on the dyno.

For example, dead stock, i trapped 101, and put down an even 200hp.

Keoni
06-15-2005, 02:34 AM
He coasted almost halfway down the track after his clamp busted, so his trap speed would have been much higher if that not had happened.

CelicaGT4
06-15-2005, 02:37 AM
Werd

Mister2ownzU
06-15-2005, 04:36 AM
He coasted almost halfway down the track after his clamp busted, so his trap speed would have been much higher if that not had happened.

so your tellin me he COASTED basicly after the 1/8th mile?? so he did better than 106mph in the 1/8th?? BWAHAHAHAHAHA because that would be solid 10 second car, why don't you just go ahead and take your 1/8th ET and trap and punch it into a 1/4mile calculator and figure out ABOUT where you should be if that pipe didn't blow off. so feel free to post up that entire slip and spread the knowledge on what really happened.

im not knockin the results, a 106mph in the 1/4 is mildly impressive but you still no where NEAR matching you old claims.

Keoni
06-15-2005, 09:00 PM
so your tellin me he COASTED basicly after the 1/8th mile?? so he did better than 106mph in the 1/8th?? BWAHAHAHAHAHA because that would be solid 10 second car, why don't you just go ahead and take your 1/8th ET and trap and punch it into a 1/4mile calculator and figure out ABOUT where you should be if that pipe didn't blow off. so feel free to post up that entire slip and spread the knowledge on what really happened.

im not knockin the results, a 106mph in the 1/4 is mildly impressive but you still no where NEAR matching you old claims.

From what he says he hit 4th gear so he must have been past the 1/8 mile, possibly nearer to the finish line when his pipe came loose. I exagerated a bit using the phrase "almost halfway" not knowing that someone would watch every single word I typed. Give CelicaGT4 some credit, even if all my pipes are solid I still couldn't clock a 13.15@106mph with my current setup.

Lagos
06-15-2005, 10:34 PM
chill with the trash talk a little guys. no one really knows what the car would have ran in the 1/4mile.

CelicaGT4 get some nice Tbolt clamps and take the car back to the track again. try to bring a friend to video tape! any fast 3sgte is a great thing to see.

Nemesis3S-GTE
06-15-2005, 10:43 PM
CelicaGT4, what transmission are you using? I'm assuming it's an e-153, but you never know. Also, have you had any axle issues while running the RA-1's? That 60' is pretty nice for a FWD car, I'd like to be able to hit something like that, but I don't think the S-53 or its axles would like it very much.

CelicaGT4
06-15-2005, 10:49 PM
Yes, you are correct...I am running the 91 Mr2T e-153 non lsd transmission. I haven't had a single issue with my axle setup. I'm running the mr2T intermediate shaft, half shalft on the drivers side, carrierbering and mount. On the outside I am running the alltrac CV's and hubs. We are shooting some vid next friday at the track. It will be up in the new Imperial Risk vol 7 video. There is also some footie of my car streetracing (on a closed road coarse, I don't support streetracing) on the Game Over videos produced by Spooled Productions.

lavy_gts
06-15-2005, 11:03 PM
so your tellin me he COASTED basicly after the 1/8th mile?? so he did better than 106mph in the 1/8th?? BWAHAHAHAHAHA because that would be solid 10 second car, why don't you just go ahead and take your 1/8th ET and trap and punch it into a 1/4mile calculator and figure out ABOUT where you should be if that pipe didn't blow off. so feel free to post up that entire slip and spread the knowledge on what really happened.

im not knockin the results, a 106mph in the 1/4 is mildly impressive but you still no where NEAR matching you old claims.


do you even have a car? if so please tell us what you run the 1/4.. hell the 1/8th in, if its anything remotely close to celicaGT4 then i will gain a tad of respect for you. Right now your running on thin ice.
The dude your bashing has one of the few perfect 5th gens around, and you, a member with 5 posts is bashing him???

you make me :puke:

Sean
06-16-2005, 07:55 PM
do you even have a car? if so please tell us what you run the 1/4.. hell the 1/8th in, if its anything remotely close to celicaGT4 then i will gain a tad of respect for you. Right now your running on thin ice.
The dude your bashing has one of the few perfect 5th gens around, and you, a member with 5 posts is bashing him???

you make me :puke:

His post was very respectful, no need to flame him. Whats wrong with someone using some common sense around here?

Dont bench race is my message, you can speculate all day, tell us when you hit 12's.

Luni
06-16-2005, 08:04 PM
Moving this to the Racing Forum and keep it clean f00z, be nice to each other up in here.

Sean
06-16-2005, 10:51 PM
3rd gear tops out right around 98ish, meaning he was practically at the end of his run. He lost a few MPH, and some time.

That 60 foot is amazing though! You just hit a 13.1 man, thats pretty fricking good! I would be happy with that, and expect a touch more next time you go out. I dont think your near a 12.1, maybe a mid to high 12.

THose axels are champs, and should give him no problems. There twice as thick in all the important areas. Robust comes to mind.

Mister2ownzU
06-17-2005, 02:40 AM
do you even have a car? if so please tell us what you run the 1/4.. hell the 1/8th in, if its anything remotely close to celicaGT4 then i will gain a tad of respect for you. Right now your running on thin ice.
The dude your bashing has one of the few perfect 5th gens around, and you, a member with 5 posts is bashing him???

you make me :puke:

yes i own a car, actually 2, one of them being a MR2. i won't flame because i've been asked not to by the mods due to my previous 4 posts directed towards the person in question in other threads where he was trash talking to a guy who made 500whp in his 6th gen, search my name and see what he had to say then and figure out how much of his statements are true. i actually posted props to hitting 106mph but i think that pipe popped off even well after the 1000ft mark.

HOLLA!!

YOur comments are appreciated, not sure why people are getting so offensive/defensive in here. WOOPS!!! This is my text, this dial up is fricken killing me! I absolutely did not mean to add this on to your post, my apologies!!!! Though, my comment did pertain to you :) - Sean

fiveSFE
06-17-2005, 02:57 AM
i like the 60ft time thats amazing, i want to see a video by next week :)

Playfortoday
06-17-2005, 03:44 AM
:popcorn:







Everyone stay nice as this develops. I remember the last flame battle quite well.

Mister2ownzU
06-17-2005, 09:19 PM
I'll do my best to stay nice... im still curious at what the 1/8th mile time was like?? post it man then we can all guestimate where you should have been at on that run.

Playfortoday
06-17-2005, 10:38 PM
I'll do my best to stay nice... im still curious at what the 1/8th mile time was like?? post it man then we can all guestimate where you should have been at on that run.

Agreed. That is not asking too much.

CelicaGT4
06-18-2005, 08:19 AM
I don't have access to a scanner right now. But when I do, how do I post it?

Playfortoday
06-18-2005, 07:16 PM
Load it to the galleryhttp://www.celicatech.com/designs/ta/t1_49.jpg, and link it here with [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/Playfortoday/Emoticons/emot-goatse.gif[ /img]

alltracman78
06-20-2005, 08:01 PM
:laugh:

Sean
06-21-2005, 02:02 AM
Or you could just tell us your 1/8?

Playfortoday
06-21-2005, 05:03 AM
Am I sensing a :bs: post?

CelicaGT4
06-21-2005, 08:34 AM
Am I sensing a :bs: post?


:ugh: lol, j/k. Anyways, my 1/8 mile mph was 95. I went to the track again last friday but more problems have occured. I've came to the conclusion that it wasn't my intercooler pipe that popped off, it was fuel cut. I can't figure it out for the life of me, it even hits fuel cut with the vac. hose off of the BPS (boost pressure sensor) and caped off on the vac. side. :wtf:

Anyways, if this was a BS post i would have came up with a better time than a whopping 13.1 et........

Sean
06-21-2005, 08:30 PM
Your 1/8 time was 9.5 seconds?

LoL, are you serious? Who the hell do you think we are?

"I've came to the conclusion that it wasn't my intercooler pipe that popped off, it was fuel cut."

^
This is a physical thing, so obviously you made that up, or am i missing something here?

I think i should just close this thread, what a waste of time.

Playfortoday
06-21-2005, 10:20 PM
Simma dah-nah!

MoralWarfare
06-22-2005, 02:54 AM
:popcorn: This should be a good one. Sean and GT4 are our resident hotheads.

CelicaGT4
06-22-2005, 04:02 AM
Ya, i'm pretty much done with this thread...i'll just wait till I get my 12 sec. pass then rub it in Sean's bitch face.

Playfortoday
06-22-2005, 04:06 AM
Dayum! :popcorn:X2

Playfortoday
06-22-2005, 04:18 AM
This calls for a new smiley!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/Playfortoday/Emoticons/popgay.gif

Sean
06-22-2005, 10:08 PM
Wowsers, when have i acted like a hothead in here?

Bah, whatev, just keep the bullshit to a min, thats all.

Seriously, answer my question then, how do you "think" your intercooler pipe popped off and ruined your run. Why didnt you just pop your hood and verify? Then why lie about it? Why cant you just tell us your 1/8?

And why cant you quit being a baby, i havent said anything thing in here to deter you. Dont get so asshurt.

Mister2ownzU
06-23-2005, 04:16 AM
im with sean on this one... you have managed to lose absolutely ALL the credibility that you NEVER had to begin with.... mods can i PLEASE make personal attacks on this guy?? now that everything i've ever said towards this kid has been proven, A LOT more that once, he's got it coming...

just for EVERYONES information 95mph in the 1/8miles is roughly good for a 118mph trap in the 1/4mile, which would be good for roughly a high 11 with that 1.9 60ft. his car at 320whp is NOT running an 11, ALL of you should clearly see that.

aside from that bs, how can u say you popped an intercooler pipe and then you took it back and said you hit fuel cut, they are 2 COMPLETELY different things with completely different reactions. you obviously don't know a damn thing about your car...

thats all for now until i have the mod's appoval/disapproval to rip this kid to shreds...

Playfortoday
06-23-2005, 06:25 AM
im with sean on this one... you have managed to lose absolutely ALL the credibility that you NEVER had to begin with.... mods can i PLEASE make personal attacks on this guy?? now that everything i've ever said towards this kid has been proven, A LOT more that once, he's got it coming...

just for EVERYONES information 95mph in the 1/8miles is roughly good for a 118mph trap in the 1/4mile, which would be good for roughly a high 11 with that 1.9 60ft. his car at 320whp is NOT running an 11, ALL of you should clearly see that.

aside from that bs, how can u say you popped an intercooler pipe and then you took it back and said you hit fuel cut, they are 2 COMPLETELY different things with completely different reactions. you obviously don't know a damn thing about your car...

thats all for now until i have the mod's appoval/disapproval to rip this kid to shreds...

Come on now. Permission to flame is not necessary and will not be approved of. I think this CelicaGT4 has, like it or not, confirmed what you have expressed in the past. No need to run it in.

It is a shame too, because I thought CelicaGT4 was a stand up guy and I always gave him the benefit of the doubt and thought you guys were too hard on him. Live and learn, I guess.

MrWOT
06-23-2005, 06:56 AM
I too would very much like to give him the benefit of the doubt, as a low 12 is a really sweet time. But considering the mods and the ~380hp you need for that kind of 1/8 mph at 2900lbs, I too must be highly suspect :(

Sean
06-23-2005, 07:21 PM
Well, ive said it before, and ill say it again. Im sure with that turbo 12's are definitely in reach. Just dont be so shady about your results. Your logged on to ctech practically the entire day, so its most definitely curious when you cant answer a few simple questions.

Just sucks when you get caught in lies aye?

MrWOT
06-23-2005, 08:12 PM
You never know, he may really have run that time, maybee he just forgot to list some mods? Or is the car gutted? :?:

Sean
06-23-2005, 09:50 PM
Sincerity was there, but the information was not, thread is going to be closed due to inadequate flame retardant on our flame suits.

Best of luck Darren, and please do let us know when you hit your 12 second pass!