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93celicaconv
07-24-2016, 09:09 PM
This might not be the right place to show this, but someone in CA has a 90 ST185 for sale - looks pretty complete, but asking a hefty price for it. Just in case someone is looking:

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/5698482528.html

187flatliner
07-25-2016, 04:31 AM
little high but a 1 owner and 88k, not that far off...lol

METDeath
07-25-2016, 03:09 PM
I'd say maybe 8-9K tops... it's not a 92/93.

93celicaconv
07-25-2016, 06:53 PM
My son got a maroon 90 ST185 from a single owner 2 years ago - the car was in Boulder, CO for a couple years, otherwise mostly in AZ. This CA one looks to have an aftermarket stereo head unit (not mounted flush), a cracked & chipped out rear tail light, faded paint, and some other small issues, but looks very complete. The AZ one my son got only had some chipped paint, but very little fade, and nothing else wrong - 100% original and all worked. He got it for $6,500. I do think $12k is a very high asking price, but maybe he is willing to negotiate down.

Anyway, just out there for the forum, is case anyone is looking.

donteatbugs
07-28-2016, 11:32 AM
6k is fair on that POS

Shadowlife25
08-01-2016, 10:29 PM
Single owner, less than 90k miles, intact leather interior (must have been garaged since it is in SoCal because fuck that heat) everything in working order, no leaks and slightly faded but respectable paint with no clear coat cancer...

That is in no way a bad price.

93celicaconv
08-02-2016, 12:41 AM
Single owner, less than 90k miles, intact leather interior (must have been garaged since it is in SoCal because fuck that heat) everything in working order, no leaks and slightly faded but respectable paint with no clear coat cancer...

That is in no way a bad price.

In that case, the price my son made for an AZ 90 ST185 with 82,000 miles on ($6,500) was a pretty good one. But, he paid almost that much for a complete original 2nd 90 ST185 that, unfortunately, had salt water dripping on its cover for 15 years while in storage, so that created some interesting body corrosion areas (not in the typical areas, one that will require every panel to be removed for a complete restore), and we are restoring that one first. So the investiment in that second ST185 will offset what may have been a great deal on the AZ ST185.

Good to know ST185's are commanding that kind of value these days.

Shadowlife25
08-02-2016, 05:29 AM
I would gut everything out of the second one and keep it for spares then send the body to the crusher. If the rust is that bad anyhow.

93celicaconv
08-02-2016, 11:57 AM
I would gut everything out of the second one and keep it for spares then send the body to the crusher. If the rust is that bad anyhow.

Maybe. Just redid the engine, was is very good condition actually (except for the typical leaks and all, and there were a lot of them - rubber hoses were all hard too and all replaced, there sure are a lot of them on that engine, Toyota still had almost all of them). Clutch replacement, all fluids/oils changed out. Powertrain is great shape now, the turbo was previously replaced not that long ago by PO and is clean. The body really isn't all that bad, just where ever the paint was chipped to the metal, it bloomed rust, but nothing through, and all rust blooms are solid after poking all the spots a lot with a pick (paint is original & fairly glossy, just has pock marks from rust pockets forming). This car was garaged and otherwise in storage its entire life, just was stored on the lower level of a 2-level garage out east the last 15 years (but never driven there), and the normally used cars were parked above, and the floor leaked a bit, so when the snow/salt from the cars above melted, some dripped down on the covered ST185 below. Why that PO never checked on it is beyond me. The rear hatch has to go, but got a solid replacement from a GT-S. So it is salvageable but will have a lot invested in it. My son wants to bring this one all the way back. He is really into ST185's (had a AT180 in high school and really likes the style of these cars, now into the rare ones). By next spring, the bodywork should be complete, and while the seats are is pretty good original shape, will likely redo them in a high lanolin leather to match color and patterns of original. Should be a 94-96 point car by early summer.

Will have to take some before pics and will post before body work begins this fall.

donteatbugs
08-02-2016, 12:11 PM
Princess cant even sell for 15k. This thing is not even close to that quality 6-7k max.

Shadowlife25
08-03-2016, 05:05 AM
Princess can't sell for 15k because people are cheap bastards. She is worth easily double that.

Also, California cars will always be worth more if they aren't outright nuked. We don't get the demon you all call rust out this way.

underscore
08-03-2016, 09:25 AM
Princess is 15k? Dang, I could've saved myself a lot of wasted effort. It still blows my mind that hardly anyone knows about these cars and their value is a fraction of what it would be if they had the fan base I think they deserve.

METDeath
08-03-2016, 11:03 AM
Princess is 15k? Dang, I could've saved myself a lot of wasted effort. It still blows my mind that hardly anyone knows about these cars and their value is a fraction of what it would be if they had the fan base I think they deserve.

I've always said that if we got a 3S-GE instead of the 5S-FE then we would have done a lot better.

underscore
08-03-2016, 10:40 PM
True, but even the Alltracs don't get much love.

celica91gts
08-05-2016, 06:50 PM
Princess can't sell for 15k because people are cheap bastards. She is worth easily double that.

Also, California cars will always be worth more if they aren't outright nuked. We don't get the demon you all call rust out this way.

Really? i thought people usually avoided California cars because of the strict emissions, which causes less horse power output from their cars?

Shadowlife25
08-07-2016, 05:05 AM
Emissions related power loss is minimal typically. Also, if you live out of state and you buy a California car, you can do pretty much whatever you like to it.

Intact emissions really don't hurt power much though. Unless you are planning on a full on race car, it is less trouble to leave them be, in my experience.
Plus, the 2-3 hp loss from emissions is more than made up for with something as simple as a 3" DP and everything else intact. Or a boost controller. Pick your poison. :)

Nitro_Alltrac
08-07-2016, 06:07 PM
Like Mario said, CA emissions, even in the early 90's, didn't impact performance much. No prior to the 90's when everything was still carbureted, different story. CA cars did have a lot less power.

But with the advent of electronic fuel injections, things started to balance out.

alltracman78
08-10-2016, 01:09 AM
Princess cant even sell for 15k. This thing is not even close to that quality 6-7k max.

My guess is that
-It's a 90/91
-It has high miles [150k?]

I understand it's repainted, new parts, ect. Usually if people are going to pay top dollar they want the "ultimate".

A red? 92? sold on ebay for $10k a year or two ago. IIRC it had somewhere around 100k on it and was in good shape.


Really? i thought people usually avoided California cars because of the strict emissions, which causes less horse power output from their cars?
The only difference in california and federal emissions for the ST185 is the Ca spec has a temp sensor in the EGR valve so the ECU knows if it's working. The federal spec has a resistor to fool the ECU.
Nothing else.

Shadowlife25
08-10-2016, 03:24 AM
Jeremy FTW. Thanks for the clarification on that. :)

The Captain
08-14-2016, 10:18 PM
Princess cant even sell for 15k. This thing is not even close to that quality 6-7k max.

I've actually had that offer, BTW. Just not on fire to sell. Took it to the Tucker Ga cruise in yesterday and won a plaque. Cuz I needed another one!

donteatbugs
08-15-2016, 03:02 PM
I've actually had that offer, BTW. Just not on fire to sell. Took it to the Tucker Ga cruise in yesterday and won a plaque. Cuz I needed another one!

Yeah, 15k would be a sad price 18k would be about right for just the car.