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RickyNo
05-15-2005, 04:35 PM
Some of yuou might already have seen this, anyway, here it is.

A Celica GT-Four converted to RWD with a 1UZ-FTE V8 4.0L motor Twin Turbo. Motor model present in some Lexus.

video: http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=V8-Celica-GT4
under-hood pics: http://www.alsc.aus.as/messages/1/26251.html?1082042524

Quite a beast. :bigthumbu

Project5sgtze
05-15-2005, 05:49 PM
thats nuts! where did you find that?

too bad the underhoods don't work :(

Gary
05-15-2005, 05:56 PM
http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3554

lavy_gts
05-15-2005, 06:26 PM
WoW i can only imagine the bucks that have went into that car. Awsome sound to it as well ..

Mike431635
05-15-2005, 06:35 PM
Never seen that particular video before.. good stuff.

ChrisD
05-15-2005, 07:26 PM
Yeah Justen has put a lot of work into that car. He's running 8 440 cc/min injectors on there...thats a lot of fuel! (4 of them from my car)

RickyNo
05-16-2005, 01:30 AM
Just noticed another thread existed on this. :rolleyes: ooops.

cosmic_sombrero
05-16-2005, 04:00 AM
he put a lot of money into it, sure. . . but can he drive in a straight line for more than a second?

Project5sgtze
05-16-2005, 04:42 AM
with lsd and good tires... i'm sure he'd be fine.

MrWOT
05-16-2005, 06:41 AM
Now spend an even more insane ammount of money and mount it transverse, mated to the awd trans :hehe:

Luni
05-16-2005, 08:39 PM
This should have been in custom engineering forum.

Moderators move it if you want.

Playfortoday
05-16-2005, 08:42 PM
I bought Justen's GRP-A ECU and AFM. I rock!

Classique71
05-17-2005, 12:06 PM
yup its a weapon - and well known now amonst the aussies - its a regular runner in some of our cruises - and dropped many a jaw at its first public outing!

As a side note - My gt4 has the origina group A motor from justens car - modified but by no way is it as awesome as this machine ;)

-==L=a=N=c=E==-
05-18-2005, 01:13 PM
You guys might appreciate these 2 vids. They were from the GroupA meet that was organised in our capital.

No guesses to which one is the UZ185.

http://ugbox.net/~lance/Stuff/Flyby1.avi
http://ugbox.net/~lance/Stuff/LeavingNBA.avi

RallyK
05-18-2005, 04:56 PM
I'm really curious how this thing handles.. From the videos it seems all over the place. I know that is usually intentional, but... is it in this case?

Adrian Avgerinos
05-21-2005, 03:52 AM
I'm really curious how this thing handles.. From the videos it seems all over the place. I know that is usually intentional, but... is it in this case?

The car ought to weigh less than it did prior to the change so it probably handles better than before.

cosmic_sombrero
05-21-2005, 08:07 AM
vrooom. . . . . vrooom. . . . vrooom. . . . BZZEEEEEEER . . . . vrooom

cosmic_sombrero
05-21-2005, 08:08 AM
(p.s. that is the only sound I could come up with for it)

Classique71
05-21-2005, 12:46 PM
from what justen says its got a better wieght balance than a gt4 -though i guess the suspensions still a work in progress .. Knowing him though he'll make a way of getting that power to the ground effectively!

GT4SOM
05-22-2005, 03:23 AM
OMG that is teh hotness. :bow: Oh god! I need to change my pants also ;)

RallyK
05-22-2005, 07:45 PM
How can it be lighter? He took out a 4 and put in an 8. Granted he took out AWD.. but kept it RWD. Lets get this straight.. The front axel is not powered, so he sh*t-canned the gears or maybe they're just disengaged. He still has a tranny and he still has the drive train all the way to the rear wheels. How can it be lighter? I don't get it.. V8s weigh more than 4s in just sheer mass. The only way I could see it getting lighter is if he converted it to FWD and lost all the weight in the back(which would be such a bad idea, but using it as an example).

bubs
05-23-2005, 12:12 AM
It runs a RWD gearbox like any other RWD car - the 1UZ-FE is an all alloy V8

Gary
05-23-2005, 03:47 AM
I don't know if it is lighter, but there's nothing much left in the engine bay. He stripped most heavy stuffs out. 3sgte also has iron block. So it is pretty heavy.

Lagos
05-23-2005, 04:56 AM
all i have to say is.... this is how we sould have gotten our cars from the factory!

ChrisD
05-23-2005, 03:36 PM
Seriously guys, with the amount of power that machine has, who cares about an extra 50 lbs that it may or may not have. :laugh:

Adrian Avgerinos
05-23-2005, 06:22 PM
How can it be lighter? He took out a 4 and put in an 8. Granted he took out AWD.. but kept it RWD. Lets get this straight.. The front axel is not powered, so he sh*t-canned the gears or maybe they're just disengaged. He still has a tranny and he still has the drive train all the way to the rear wheels. How can it be lighter? I don't get it.. V8s weigh more than 4s in just sheer mass. The only way I could see it getting lighter is if he converted it to FWD and lost all the weight in the back(which would be such a bad idea, but using it as an example).

Iincluding intake to downpipe a 3SGTE weighs approximately 450lbs.
Complete 1UZ-FE weighs about 430lbs

It's also likely that two axles and the E151F transaxle with transfer case weights a good bit more than the W58 tranny he is using.

The rest of the drivetrain is the same as he didn't change the rear end of the car.

Now he is using two turbos and all the related hardware that goes with it. So it is my guess that the current weight of his car is probably within 25lbs of stock curb weight. This assumes he hasn't done any other crazy things to the chassis.

-==L=a=N=c=E==-
05-23-2005, 10:28 PM
Guys the whole car was lighter by about 100kilos i think it was. And the weight distribution shifted from 60:40 to 57:43 because of the lighter engine/drivelin package.

Suspension was changed to tein's all round. At the moment his in the process of trying different rear diffs as well.

GT4SOM
05-24-2005, 01:48 AM
I want more drifting videos from this car. That is so nasty! What kind of specs does that car put out? whp anyone? BhP? Does that 1uzfe come tt stock?

RallyK
05-24-2005, 08:32 AM
Adrian Avgerinos:: :bow: my hero, you're very educated.

Gary
05-24-2005, 08:37 AM
Adrian Avgerinos:: :bow: my hero, you're very educated.
:bowdown: to Adrian :D

Classique71
05-24-2005, 01:16 PM
Anyone who would care to pop over to www.toymods.org.au - and see our forums will get the details , more pics and details of justens car and an even more insane project involving a 1974 ta22 celica, a turboed 1uz v8 and nissan GTR Skyline Running gear that actually works in full AWD in progress ..

We Aussies can be bloody innovative when given crazy ideas and ample time to nut em out ;)

Adrian Avgerinos
05-24-2005, 03:17 PM
Adrian Avgerinos:: :bow: my hero, you're very educated.

Nah, I just hate being wrong. :D

Trance4c
05-25-2005, 08:01 PM
Ya.. that thing is soooo facking badass. I would like to do a 3S-GTE into it like that.. hrmm.... na, to much work.

Luni
05-25-2005, 08:34 PM
Yeah Clay that would take a grip of work to convert to RWD and turn the 3SGTE around.. It can be done tho.

I know a guy that put a 3SGTE into a 22re powered toyota truck (the mechanic that swapped out my motor and did my turbo and alternator wiring work). So the 3S works sitting upright.

whtcelionteins
05-26-2005, 08:06 PM
"So the 3S Works sitting upright" - Luni

A couple of tuners did this with no problems... I know of an AE86 with a 3SGTE... The problems are, which tranny to use. Not so much a problem just finding it is a PITA. A bellhousing must be sourced internationally also must be used with a Celica 22R Tranny(I believe) for the right combo, and well those tranny are "somewhat hard to find" cause all 22R drag racers like this over there "truck" gearing... Thats what I know of...

BTW, V8TT is bad@$$... :bow:

-==L=a=N=c=E==-
05-26-2005, 11:24 PM
3S-GTE doesn't work upright without a few mods. Mainly the sump area. You need to use the 2S sump, pickup, and windage tray unless you mount the engine on a tilt in the new car.

Using the 2S engine mounts is possible as well, cuts down on work. After that all you need is a Bellhousing (2S again).

Done to death over here.

Luni
05-27-2005, 12:31 AM
He did it without changing anything. I think he might have modified the pickup but I cant be sure. he DID modify the intake manifold to fit in his truck, but yeah, it works in his truck upgright.

Punisher
05-27-2005, 03:09 AM
I'd like to see how a 3SGTE in a Rav4 works out... Mainly because they come with 3S engine stock.. so would be pretty easy to drop one in.. might make for an interesting vehicle.

bubs
05-27-2005, 03:27 AM
A crazy aussie has been there - done that

http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&th=160&prevloaded=1&rid=4060&S=e0d18ab3c0132949d5f2e84821959164&rev=&reveal=&start=0&count=60

Classique71
05-27-2005, 03:40 AM
the usual place to start parts sourcing for the swap is the sa63 celica - basically a 2sc powered brother of the ra65 most of us got .

it has the right bellhousing to adapr up a w series supra box - though i believe you still ahve to use a custom flywheel , and a number of other goodies to get it sorted - oil feeds need to be sorted out to compensate for the lean , and the distributor will usually smack the firewallin most conversions when placed north south

once again if you care to look - toymods in Australia has a fairly comprehensive list on what you need and how you do this swap into RWD platforms - you just need to look outside of whats done in america to see it!

I know of at least 6 - 8 conversions now into everything from early celicas - to truenos , to corollas - all have been a apin in the arse and quite costly - but the packages ended up impressing all with the results ..

Justin
01-23-2006, 02:39 AM
I have to say the V8 RWD swap into a 185 HAS to be LIGHTER, the Aluminum V8 is a lil lighter than the Iron 4, but the real weight savings is in a transmission!! Damn the ST185 transmission is heavy as hell, because it's bulletproof.... You get rid of two differentials and front cv axles, and making a driveshaft going to the rear you can use a lighter aluminum custom unit. I think you have to put a All-Trac trans and engine together with a few friends to get the idea of how heavy this fugger is.

On the whole RWD 3SGTE deal it looks kinda painful as I have looked into putting one into my '72 Corolla. The main deal that gets me is a totally custom turbo system and header will be needed for several reasons, one being the starter is in the way now because it's on the block side rather than the trans side like normal, and also the stock turbo setup the turbo would be facing the firewall, how often you see that under a hood? Another thing, since the starter goes to the other side the ringgear on the flywheel has to be put on backwards.

Also I would suggest EMS to get DIS so the dizzy doesn't go through the firewall. But then again the coolant outlet off the head will be fun too.

KoreanJoey
01-23-2006, 08:27 AM
Same problems really as swapping any FWD toyo motor to RWD. I know swapping my buddies Blacktop 4AGE into his Hachi was a bitch.

Playfortoday
01-23-2006, 02:16 PM
:eek: Holy Thread Necromancy!!! :eek:

Bourkey
04-12-2006, 11:57 PM
That is one shmick ST185.
Any mods required to the chassis? I want to dump something big n RWD mine.
2JZ-GTE?

Adrian Avgerinos
04-13-2006, 12:12 AM
Any mods required to the chassis?

Understatement of the year. Bravo. :bigthumbu

85gtsblackman
04-13-2006, 12:30 AM
know a guy that put a 3SGTE into a 22re powered toyota truck (the mechanic that swapped out my motor and did my turbo and alternator wiring work). So the 3S works sitting upright.



nooooooooooooooooo blasphamy


A couple of tuners did this with no problems... I know of an AE86 with a 3SGTE... The problems are, which tranny to use. Not so much a problem just finding it is a PITA. A bellhousing must be sourced internationally also must be used with a Celica 22R Tranny(I believe) for the right combo, and well those tranny are "somewhat hard to find" cause all 22R drag racers like this over there "truck" gearing... Thats what I know of...


yeah the bulletproof w58 trans is fun, even though i can cruise at 60 at under 3k

i dont even use 5th unless im on the highway or the 60-65mph backroads

Playfortoday
04-13-2006, 04:06 AM
Ultra super double thread necromancy!:eek2: