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08-13-2014, 04:23 PM
One of my cars that I have collected has a rusty service over the entire body.
This is a 1953 Ford Custom Line with only 75,217 miles on it.
My cousin sanded it down back in 1970 and rattle can premiered it gray. It sat in a garage until 1978, because that very same [DUMB] cousin tried to start it with a 12 volt battery and melted the wires to the battery. It has not ran since.

So what I want to do is plastic dip it.
Is there any one on hear that can give me some clues to what I need to do about the rust before I Dip it.

Oh yea, almost forgot to mention this. The city gave me a violation sticker for improper parking on it because it was in my drive way with a tarp cover. It had been there for at least 12\15 years. And now they give me a ticket!!!!
I asked the Police Chief what I could do and he said to move it to the side of my house and put concrete slabs under the wheel, but do not put a tarp over it. This is why I need to protect it as soon as possible.

08-16-2014, 04:41 PM
Jack, what I would do is have the whole car scuffed and then clear coated. Keep the patina, with the added benefit of protection.

I would stay away from plastidip.

08-16-2014, 05:56 PM
The problem is Chris that my cousin sanded it down about in 1978 and just rattled canned premiered it and done no more to it. I have gotten in touch with DYC and they said that plastic dip would seal it up and stop the rusting from going further.

I am spraying every thing, no taping at all. The code here will not allow me to no longer keep it under a tarp or car cover. So I will spray a cover on the car, windows and all. Even pull the tires and rim off and do the inner finders. Only thing that wont be plastic dipped is the under side of the car.

If I can get my wife to post up some pics of it now and then later you will see why it needs to be protected and it keeps the police off my back.

Thanks Chris and hope to see you two at some car meet this year.

Do you know if speedricer is going to make it down this year for the Maumee meet this coming Saturday? Would be great if you two could make it...... Praying for it to happen.....To long of a time between seeing good people like your selves. God Bless your old Bro Jack

08-16-2014, 06:42 PM
You need to either neutralize or completely remove the rust before coating, otherwise plastidipping the car will do nothing but hide the growing cancer for a while.

If all it has is some surface rust under and/or coming through the primer, Ive heard of people having success with CLR. Since primer is actually porous and is not a sealant, it does not protect against rust. The good news is that you can treat the surface rust right through the primer by saturating it well enough. After using something like CLR to remove the lions share of rust, I would treat it with something like Rust Reformer or Eastwood's Rust Converter. Once those products dry you should be able to seal it with something like Plastidip (although I agree with bloodmoney, Id keep the patina and clear coat it).

08-16-2014, 09:12 PM
There is about 5% primer left and the rest is rust coating the car looks more brown than gray from the rust powder. My wife will post pics soon. Jack

08-16-2014, 09:49 PM

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08-16-2014, 09:55 PM
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08-16-2014, 09:56 PM
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08-16-2014, 09:59 PM
so now that you see what I am talking about, what do you advise me to do!

08-16-2014, 10:30 PM
i would break out the power sander and go to town then clear coat it. :(

08-16-2014, 10:45 PM
But then it would be bear metal!!!

08-17-2014, 12:36 AM
Im telling you, try CLR


08-17-2014, 01:41 AM
I will go out as soon as I get off here and go get some. Thanks

08-18-2014, 08:23 PM
Or use naval jelly / rust converter. First I would sand the whole thing.

Then primer and paint.

11-18-2014, 08:53 PM
I've heard good things about vinegar/water mix too.

11-20-2014, 07:07 AM

I know money is tight for everyone. If, however, you do happen to be able to afford it, I would first remove the rust. Take it down to bare metal.
Then go buy yourself whatever you calculate you will need from the website for a product called POR15.
That stuff is amazing for what it is and it will fully seal and protect any surfaces you apply it to.
So if you have removed the rust and then apply POR15, it will STAY that way. Just my .02 as most of the oldtimers here with hotrods swear by the stuff.
If they trust their built up projects to be protected by that stuff, I would say you are good to go. It is also a much more permanent solution than any plastidip.

- Mario

11-28-2014, 01:59 PM
CLR or Diet Coke to get rid of the rust on the Chrome.
Pour Diet Coke on the bumper where the rust is, take tinfoil and ball it up loosely and then gently rub the rusted area. The rust will come right off.
You need to let the Diet Coke sit on the area for about 20 seconds or so. Keep pouring as needed.

12-01-2014, 01:44 AM
Here the up date on the Ford. I ended up putting a 8' privacy fence up to close off my back yard. I moved the Ford around back and recovered it with the bill board tarp until next summer. The tarp is water proof and has covered the car for the last 10 years or so. My wife is going to introduce me to the school instructor in auto body at her school. Don't know how much it will be but at least it will be running again.

Tried the vinegar and water it worked for a little while.

Mario do you mean paint the whole car with por-15? Or just the under side?

Sorry for late response, just been trying to get "THE BLACK" up and going.
Brutekiller, Tom has moved back to N.Y. and gotten a job there close to his parents, so now I am left to my own skills on putting it back to gather. Tom said to delete all the sensors on the back side of the engine, but I do not know how to do that. Any help would be much welcomed. Jack

12-01-2014, 06:28 AM
I meant the car. You can use a prayer for POR15 and they have a system for doing just that.
You can paint it any color. Just go read on their site and you can see what I mean. :)

12-01-2014, 12:10 PM
Thanks Brother

12-01-2014, 11:05 PM
Anytime Jack. :)