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klapa
08-04-2013, 08:27 PM
I am looking at getting a pickup.

I had a 1988 Toyota pickup in the past and gave it to my step-son. Now I am looking for another one and am having "sticker shock".

I have just initially looked around and found this one:

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3917227486.html

Asking price $3500 - $2650 without the wheels after calling the guy.

The guy is a Nissan enthusiast/racer - seems genuine enough - but I wonder.....

Even for the trucks older than 1990 - there are not any for less than $2K.

MrWOT
08-04-2013, 08:36 PM
They are like early 80s corollas. The reputation has inflated the price beyond it's actual value.

Go look at a B2600. 93 or older.

klapa
08-04-2013, 09:46 PM
Thanks for the info - but those choices are a little lean - and overpriced - around here as well.

How about Nissan pickups - these seem to be as plentiful as Toyotas and asking prices are much better.

Anything to look for or avoid?

klapa
08-04-2013, 10:59 PM
Actually - I'm looking at this one:

http://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/3980400529.html

Seems good to real good mechanically with bad paint - which does not bother me.

Also - the guy is not a flake - he actually answers his phone and does not seem to be on drugs - which oddly enough seems to be a plus based on this latest string of craiglist contacts I have made.

The guy is from up-state NY and appears to be a plain dealer on the phone. It will be a hump to go all the way down to Wilmington to look at/buy the thing so we will just see.

In the meantime I have the guy sending me some more pics of the engine bay and interior.

MrWOT
08-04-2013, 11:21 PM
I don't know anything about those specifically, but it looks decent. The fact that it has cold a/c and what sounds like a factory stereo speaks volumes about the owner. Sounds promising.

Shadowlife25
08-05-2013, 01:36 AM
90's Nissan harbodies were great trucks. mid to late 80's Toyotas were great as well. I guess pricing all depends on mileage, condition and the area it is from.
Can't hurt to check KBB.com and see what the national averages are for them.

Nitro_Alltrac
08-05-2013, 03:49 AM
From what I've seen down here, the Toyota trucks hold value. I've been very surprised when I checked into some around here. The pricing on those probably won't be that far off.

The Captain
08-05-2013, 12:22 PM
You get what you pay for of course. Old Toyota trucks hold their value because you are buying the life left. I've found most trucks hold their value beyond cars of equal vintage. Best find is a cheap 22RE equipped Toyota with a blown motor.

I like the first gen Nissan Frontiers though.

Shadowlife25
08-05-2013, 05:55 PM
The old 22RE Toyota trucks are damn near indestructible. I would purchase one again if the right one was available.

Facime
08-06-2013, 04:00 AM
Those mid 90's nissans are just as bullet-proof as the same era Toyotas. Ive had two of those Nissan Harbody trucks and my brother had one (still has in fact, though he no longer drives it). We both put well ovber 200K on ours. To my knowledge my ex-wife still has my last one and is still driving it with what must be close to 300K.


I personally feel that over 3K for a stock 86-94 toyota is too much.

andy
08-06-2013, 05:04 PM
Down here in the south, the 4x4 trucks fetch 3-4k working or not, the 2wd though you can get for 1500ish. I paid 1200 for my 1990 single cab short bed 5 spd running fine.

celica9303
08-06-2013, 05:26 PM
Avoid the 3.0l like the plauge.....

alltracman78
08-06-2013, 09:53 PM
That's uninformed horseshit.
The 22R also blows headgaskets, and the timing chain guides break so the chain eats away at the coolant passage in the timing cover.
And it makes less power than the 3.0.
It's a great engine, but far from perfect. And the 3VZ is a good engine; very reliable. I've got 287K on my current one [I've owned both].

I'd rather have the 3.0 than the 2.4 if I was going to get a 4WD or needed to pull heavy stuff.

alltracman78
08-06-2013, 09:54 PM
But yeah, the prices on them are rediculous.

celica9303
08-07-2013, 02:42 AM
That's uninformed horseshit.
The 22R also blows headgaskets, and the timing chain guides break so the chain eats away at the coolant passage in the timing cover.
And it makes less power than the 3.0.
It's a great engine, but far from perfect. And the 3VZ is a good engine; very reliable. I've got 287K on my current one [I've owned both].

I'd rather have the 3.0 than the 2.4 if I was going to get a 4WD or needed to pull heavy stuff.

I also own a 3VZE but in a 4runner. Its an under powered pos engine(the auto trans may have something to to with that) but regardless its not the best toyota could've done. The straight 6 out of the supra would have been better.

I only paid $200 for my truck so I just deal with the leaky underpowered v6.

Technically any motor can blown a head gasket or eat through timing components. Its just a widely known issue with the 3vze

Facime
08-07-2013, 03:40 AM
The straight 6 out of the supra would have been better.

:rollseyes
The 7M (the supra engine of the era trucks were talking about) is hardly any better in reputation. Its a good motor with a fatal flaw.
Ive seen lots of 3VZ's run in excess of 300K miles with little more than routine maintenance (AFTER the headgasket recall service was performed). Its a well documented factory flaw. Its not super powerful but show me a 2V V6 of that era that IS, especially one made exclusively for a pickup.


Having said that, if I had to work on one, Id pick the 20/22 mainly for ease of access and simplicity.

celica9303
08-07-2013, 04:03 AM
:rollseyes
The 7M (the supra engine of the era trucks were talking about) is hardly any better in reputation. Its a good motor with a fatal flaw.
Ive seen lots of 3VZ's run in excess of 300K miles with little more than routine maintenance (AFTER the headgasket recall service was performed). Its a well documented factory flaw. Its not super powerful but show me a 2V V6 of that era that IS, especially one made exclusively for a pickup.



Having said that, if I had to work on one, Id pick the 20/22 mainly for ease of access and simplicity.

True, but I still think the 7m makes better torque.

My 4runner is well over 400k original motor. Headgsskets done under recall many many years ago before I got it. Trans is original too but it blew up have a replacement waiting for me to want to pit it in

Facime
08-07-2013, 06:04 AM
straight 6 is suited to producing more torque by nature than a V6.

Shadowlife25
08-08-2013, 12:44 AM
One day in the future when I decide to get a little truck again, I am just going for it and having one just like Marty's in Back to the Future. :P

klapa
08-08-2013, 02:19 AM
I'm sitting on the fence here - I don't really NEED a truck till the end of September - so maybe I will wait and see if prices go down in advance of the holidays..

Myself - I see the value in Toyota trucks but i think they are way overpriced - I will do more research but I think the Nissan trucks are nearly as good and they cost about 1/3 less.

I think I see a Nissan in my future.

Add: I don't need 4WD. Just something to haul the trash.

4thgenceli
08-08-2013, 02:34 AM
Get a hemi.

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alltracman78
08-08-2013, 02:58 AM
The 22R is even more underpowered than the 3VZ is....
Imagine your 4Runner with one of those.

And you'd probably be better off with a 5M than a 7M.

But yeah, if you just want a 2WD trash hauler, 22R is probably better [and you'll have a hard time finding a V6 2WD].

MrWOT
08-08-2013, 08:28 PM
The 7M is a great engine, with a set of head studs. Low end girdle wouldn't hurt either...

I'd go 22R for the mod standpoint. Add a cam, header and bigger carb. Also from the mileage standpoint.

Shadowlife25
08-12-2013, 01:37 AM
I saw some pretty ballsy 22R's at a (semi)local classic Japanese car meet this weekend. Good stuff. :D

Nitro_Alltrac
08-12-2013, 11:20 PM
^Did you go to the big show at Long Beach Mario? I was thinking it was this past weekend.

Shadowlife25
08-13-2013, 02:23 AM
I sure did Mike! :) It was awesome.

Shadowlife25
08-13-2013, 02:24 AM
There is one in LBC on the 25th as well. REALLY big show. Rumor is they may have a Toyota 2000 GT there. What?! A man can dream. :P

The Captain
08-13-2013, 12:25 PM
Well the value of my truck went through the roof. The motor took a poop on the way home. Number 4 had 30psi. Pulled out the piston and the rings came out in pieces. Off to the machine shop the block went. With no motor I stare at the trans. Two drive shafts and the stick shifters and it could be out... Third gear was always very short on engagement and easy to miss. So I pulled it out and had it rebuilt to the tune of $800. All new bearings, sychro's, forks, bushings, and seals etc. The motor got tanked, bored, honed. The crank got polished (teehee). New pistons, rings, wrist pins. All new bearings. I ported the head during the block work with new valve seals. The trans is in and full of fresh oil. Looks like today the motor is finally going to be rejoined!

Shadowlife25
08-14-2013, 02:34 AM
Awesome Cappy :)

The Captain
08-14-2013, 02:51 AM
Got it all in and it runs like a top. Haven't driven it yet. Tomorrow I'll take it to emissions and hopefully it'll pass. I removed the EGR system so the NOx is a little high during accel. Hopefully having full compression in all cylinders will fix that. Funny when you have to break in a truck with 195k miles.

Shadowlife25
08-15-2013, 03:13 AM
Let us know how it goes. I am interested in the emissions report as well.

The Captain
08-15-2013, 03:59 PM
Passed emissions! Little high on the NOx. Power steering inop. Can't understand why. I tried bleeding it to no avail. Worked fine when removed. Good to have Killer back on the road and out of my damn garage!

Shadowlife25
08-18-2013, 04:15 AM
Good to hear. :)

mar_phi6
08-18-2013, 10:45 PM
Over here in AZ the Toyota/ Nissan pickup trucks are like gold. People ask for too much money for them!