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fdfx3
04-08-2013, 11:25 PM
Hi I've just recently installed an ACT flywheel and clutch, after bleeding the system, I started the car up and then noticed that it wont go in to any gears as long as the car is running.
If I i start the car in 1st. or any gear for that matter with the clutch pedal fully depressed it just rolls forward when the starter is engaged.

In order to try to solve this problem I have done this:
*Checked both master and slave cylinder for leakage (found none)
*Bled the system multiple times.
*Checked that the slave pushrod i moving, wich it does.
*Tried extending the pushrod first by 1/4", then about 1/2", but this did little if nothing at all, the clutch still does not want to dissengage.

Im about 99,8% sure that I did install the friction plate the right way, but are now getting a litle concerned that I might installed it the wrong way after all since the clutch still wont dissengage.

Also I noticed that the car sometimes stalls or want to stall when the clutch is depressed in neutral.

Does any one have a solution or an idea of what could be wrong with my clutch?
Would be very thankfull if somone could give me and idea of whats wrong since i dont want to take the whole engine and transmision out again (such a pain in the ass:worried:) only to find out that the problem was something else.

The Clutch and Flywheel are both ACT, the clutch is not a 6 or 4 puck clutch it is the normal street friction plate.
Here is a picture of the clutch:
Clutch: ACT HD Street Clutch 3SGTE TM1-XTSS
3244

Does anyone on the forum have this type og clutch installed in your car and did you encounter any problems when installing yours?
Thansks a lot for all inputs and answears.

4thgenceli
04-09-2013, 01:45 AM
I bought an ACT TC4-HDR6 kit (heavy duty pressure plate, 6 puck unsprung hub disc). I just switched out the disc for an organic street series sprung hub. I've done some adjustments to the hydraulic system as well as a new master and slave and I'm running better now.

Was the clutch installed properly? There's a sticker on it that says 'flywheel side'. That side should face the flywheel. Did you replace the master or slave cylinder? They could be leaking internally.

fdfx3
04-09-2013, 04:59 PM
Thanks for the help.
I believe that the clutch were installed properly, but i'm not a 100% sure anymore due to the fact that the clutch is not disengaging.
I think I remember a small yellow round sticker that said something like MT side (could this be correct?). anyways i thought that this meant manual transmision side or something like that an placed the side with this sticker pointing outwards to the transmision, but perhaps the sticker ment motor or something? anyways I'm going to use an inspection camera to see if I'm able to see the disc. if not the gearbox has to go.

I doubt that master cylinder is internally leaking since I had that problem earlier about two years ago and changed the master cylinder. when my master cylinder was leaking the cultch would slowly disengage itself when the pedal was fully depressed, until the the leakage got worse and wouldn't disengage at all.

4thgenceli
04-09-2013, 05:06 PM
Here's pictures of my old 6puck unsprung hub.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/DSCN5538_zps2f6a971d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/DSCN5539_zps98e75117.jpg


There's no 'MT' sticker, but there is the one for the flywheel (it says 'flywheel side'). On the organic street series disc I just installed it was the same layout with a sticker designating 'flywheel side'.

fdfx3
04-09-2013, 05:26 PM
Here's pictures of my old 6puck unsprung hub.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/DSCN5538_zps2f6a971d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/DSCN5539_zps98e75117.jpg


There's no 'MT' sticker, but there is the one for the flywheel (it says 'flywheel side'). On the organic street series disc I just installed it was the same layout with a sticker designating 'flywheel side'.

That's the sticker I was talking about!, the sticker in your first picture, is that the sticker that says flywheel side? if that's the case i got a bad feeling that I may installed the disc the wrong way.

4thgenceli
04-09-2013, 05:45 PM
Yes that sticker says flywheel side.

fdfx3
04-09-2013, 06:07 PM
Crap!, then I think I might have installed it the wrong way, I'l let you know when I find out.

fdfx3
04-11-2013, 11:18 PM
Nope the clutch disc were not put in the wrong way, I have now checked and measured every component disc, pressure plate, thrust bearing. splines etc. everything seems to be ok and the same as the stock components.
So now I'm really out of ideas, the only thing worth mentioning is that the clutch disc appeard be way out of center, and I know it was properly aligned before I fitted the clutch, Dont know how and why.
Here are some photos that I took while disassembling:

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g427/fdfx3/110420132136.jpg

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g427/fdfx3/110420132138.jpg

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g427/fdfx3/110420132147.jpg

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g427/fdfx3/110420132144.jpg

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g427/fdfx3/110420132143.jpg

4thgenceli
04-11-2013, 11:34 PM
You way over-lubed that shaft.

4thgenceli
04-11-2013, 11:37 PM
Now that I got that out of the way, that is an absurd amount of excess lubricant on the transmission input shaft. It went all over the place, including the places it shouldn't go (flywheel face and clutch disc). That is a great way to roast up a new clutch.

Did you replace the throw out bearing? Can you move the shift pivot fork by hand? Did you put lubricant on the shaft where the throw out bearing rides and on the pivot ball and cup area?

fdfx3
04-13-2013, 10:47 PM
Yes I might hav overdone that, yes I did replace the trow out bearing/ thrust bearing with a brand new bearing that came with the clutch kit.
I did put some grease on the pivot ball and the shaft where the bearing is supposed to slide back and forth.

Since I cant find anythin wrong, I'm going to put the transmision with the clutch back on the motor and then hook it up externally to see if it suddenly works.

4thgenceli
04-13-2013, 11:42 PM
Should of used an OEM toyota throw out bearing.

I used the one that came with my ACT kit. It squealed like a pig getting raped by bigfoot and godzilla at the same time. Switched out to an OEM one, quieter than a mouse farting.