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DanteDemont
02-12-2013, 04:35 PM
So I want to put a little power behind this car of Mine.
But I need references on where to buy them online.
Any suggestions what I could add to it that won't break the bank, an give it just a little push?

I wanted to do a Cat Back Exhaust, 3 inch flow. Like my old celica had.
I've got a 92 Celica GT.
Any websites or suggestions?

Also, anything extra? I've got a air intake, I've read about upgrading the fuel Pump, an maybe fuel injectors, an a port an polish.

Just like small things is there anyway I could get a quick list of upgrades that would help improve the power?
Just throw it together if you can I'd like to do some research an fine out what my pricing options are.

Physlis
02-12-2013, 04:46 PM
You'd be better off updating the suspension over the minimal power you might gain, it'll be more fun to drive and it'll be a cheap way to set you up for a motor swap. The standard intake, exhaust, and plug/wires upgrade will be the best you can do for power.

Personally I suggest a new set of springs or coilovers, a pair of strut tower braces, a beefier swaybar, upgrade to DOT4 brake fluid and stainless steel brakelines. The coilovers/springs will be your biggest investment. As far as headers go, there are 2 cheap routes: eBay racing header or a 90's camry header. Whichever route you take, be sure to match the exhaust size to the header outlet, IIRC too big or too small will create a lot of power-robbing backpressure.

DanteDemont
02-12-2013, 06:04 PM
Well I bought factory Springs, struts all the way around.
But I was planning to do the 3sgte but I couldn't find a place to buy with that had everything I would need like the front clips an everything.
I've redone the tie Ross the sway bars, but the ride still rides just a little rough, don't get me wrong the springs improve it alot but their just factory.
I'm gonna research alot of the stuff you said like the brake lines, a beefier sway bar, I am gonna check into google eBay an andysautosports for this stuff.

Thanks alot!

Physlis
02-12-2013, 07:41 PM
Suspension Techniques is the only supplier I know of for rear swaybars, Whiteline made them as well but they stopped all 5th Gen products. Take a look in my Celica Prime build thread for a good idea, I think I listed where I got my parts as well.

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-12-2013, 07:42 PM
I love my strut bars and suspension technique bar.

DanteDemont
02-12-2013, 11:48 PM
strut towerbraces an Strut bars are the same corrrect?
because they look exactly the same, i got a deal on some flatline strut tower braces/strut bars for $130
Also would i need to buy 2?

underscore
02-13-2013, 12:19 AM
Sturt tower bar/strut tower brace/shock brace/etc, all the same thing. You can get two for the car, one front, one rear. A lot of us cheat and use Probe/Neon bars off eBay, much cheaper.

DanteDemont
02-13-2013, 12:50 PM
Sturt tower bar/strut tower brace/shock brace/etc, all the same thing. You can get two for the car, one front, one rear. A lot of us cheat and use Probe/Neon bars off eBay, much cheaper.

90-93 ford probe is the same for a 90-93 celica?
Because they are alot cheaper.

DanteDemont
02-13-2013, 01:43 PM
90-93 ford probe is the same for a 90-93 celica?
Because they are alot cheaper.

Like would these be correct?
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=261159492130&index=5&nav=SEARCH&nid=43292757646

Physlis
02-13-2013, 02:02 PM
That one might fit, I can't say for sure though since it's a flatbar where the Neon bar many of us use is angled. The bar for a 90's Neon fits the front and a Probe for the rear, you just need to redrill a few holes.

Front and rear strut tower braces:
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq48/Physlis/My%20Celica/Celi%20parts%20and%20upgrades/SDC12564.jpg





I just got my strut tower braces in a few weeks ago and installed last weekend. I had to do a little drilling and then some dremel work to make them fit but they came out great.
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq48/Physlis/My%20Celica/Celi%20parts%20and%20upgrades/SDC12566.jpg
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq48/Physlis/My%20Celica/Celi%20parts%20and%20upgrades/SDC12569.jpg
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq48/Physlis/My%20Celica/Celi%20parts%20and%20upgrades/SDC12570.jpg
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq48/Physlis/My%20Celica/Celi%20parts%20and%20upgrades/SDC12571.jpg
I snagged some quick-release pins from work to make the rear bar easily removable for when I need the hatch for cargo. Thier primary use is to lock aircraft landing gear in place so I'm sure they'll stand up to the stress of some hard driving.

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-13-2013, 04:51 PM
The quick release pins are a brilliant idea. May be stealing that.

Physlis
02-13-2013, 05:04 PM
By all means, two years of driving and they're still holding strong. Installation/removal is a breeze to; loosen the nuts, turn the bar, pull the pins. Everything's barely hand tight but still functions as requred.

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-13-2013, 05:07 PM
By all means, two years of driving and they're still holding strong. Installation/removal is a breeze to; loosen the nuts, turn the bar, pull the pins. Everything's barely hand tight but still functions as requred.

Where did you source them?

Physlis
02-13-2013, 05:27 PM
Ummm, let's just say I used to be an aircraft mechanic and when we reduced out inventory of parts I acquried a pair :sneaky:. I could look for a manufacturer and check sizes for you though.

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-13-2013, 05:32 PM
Ummm, let's just say I used to be an aircraft mechanic and when we reduced out inventory of parts I acquried a pair :sneaky:. I could look for a manufacturer and check sizes for you though.

Haha, thanks. I'd appreciate that.

DanteDemont
02-13-2013, 06:07 PM
That one might fit, I can't say for sure though since it's a flatbar where the Neon bar many of us use is angled. The bar for a 90's Neon fits the front and a Probe for the rear, you just need to redrill a few holes.

Having some issues, this is what I found for them, do you know if their accurate?

Rear: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=360577382634&index=3&nav=SEARCH&nid=83011616074

Front: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=320855257053&index=2&nav=SEARCH&nid=86974166187

I just don't want to order the wrong parts, that's such a damn drag to send them back =\
Any help?

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-13-2013, 06:09 PM
Having some issues, this is what I found for them, do you know if their accurate?

Rear: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=360577382634&index=3&nav=SEARCH&nid=83011616074

Front: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=320855257053&index=2&nav=SEARCH&nid=86974166187

I just don't want to order the wrong parts, that's such a damn drag to send them back =\
Any help?

They're both correct. You will need to drill the correct holes in them, including the holes in the interior plastic panels to allow for the bar to run through.

DanteDemont
02-13-2013, 06:44 PM
They're both correct. You will need to drill the correct holes in them, including the holes in the interior plastic panels to allow for the bar to run through.

Thanks so much, ill be drilling them accordingly.
I've already ordered a beefier rear sway bar link, an eBay Headers.

Headers: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=360498222144&index=1&nav=SEARCH&nid=53933573873

SS Brake Lines: http://www.andysautosport.com/toyota/1990_1993_celica/brakes/brake_lines/rubicon_express/

Sway Bar Rear: http://www.andysautosport.com/toyota/1990_1993_celica/suspension/sway_bars/suspension_techniques/

That's my Upgrade list so far for My 92 Celica, I was going to get the under body brace but I don't think it's necessary I think all it does is just stabilize the 3 inch exhaust.
I've been reading up an down on the guides, eventually a 3SGTE will be mine, but from what I've read from The experienced members on here is just upgrade the suspension.
I've already bought new factory Springs an stabilizer bars all the way around, new shocks, pads, ect.

Terracar
02-13-2013, 06:45 PM
So I want to put a little power behind this car of Mine.
But I need references on where to buy them online.
Any suggestions what I could add to it that won't break the bank, an give it just a little push?

I wanted to do a Cat Back Exhaust, 3 inch flow. Like my old celica had.
I've got a 92 Celica GT.
Any websites or suggestions?



A catback will help - 3" is too big for the 5sfe. After a full 2.5" I tried 2.25" all the way back with the rear axle back portion 2.5"- Gave better results than the full 2.5" or the full 2.25".

Fuel pump/injectors won't be needed with any of the available bolt-ons for the 5sfe unless you start moving towards forced induction. Though a good cleaning of the injectors wouldn't hurt. Witch hunter offers an affordable service for this and they have a great turn around time.

As others have said, suspension will give you the most enjoyment per dollar spent. You can go the cheap-o optoins that others listed below with the Neon/Probe bars or Ultra Racing out of Malaysia makes great products and have several for the 5th gen Celica. In terms of the strut bars, you will feel the bigger difference with the rear strut brace.

Be sure to check your wheel bearings and brake calipers. On my '90 the front caliper was siezed, didn't realize it until I put new rotors on the front since I thought it was the wheel bearings (which were bad too).

-Terracar

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-13-2013, 07:07 PM
2.25 is as big an exhaust as you want to go.

Physlis
02-13-2013, 07:42 PM
I agree, 2.25" is the outlet size on the eBay header. I could've sworn I put that in my first reply, oops.

DanteDemont
02-13-2013, 08:00 PM
Sweet!
Thank you all for the information!
I'm going to have these upgrades installed this upcoming week an half.
Then in 2 weeks ill have the 2.25 cat back exhaust, any suggestions where to purchase a decent one that won't render me broke?
I'm going to look into the Witch Hunters service for the fuel injectors In the time being.

underscore
02-13-2013, 08:04 PM
That's my Upgrade list so far for My 92 Celica, I was going to get the under body brace but I don't think it's necessary I think all it does is just stabilize the 3 inch exhaust.

Are you talking about the brace that goes underneath the engine? Those can make a huge difference in handling.

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-13-2013, 08:08 PM
Are you talking about the brace that goes underneath the engine? Those can make a huge difference in handling.

I wished I had caught the conversation last year, as I missed my chance to buy one.

Find a good muffler shop and have it done for about $150-$200. I pieced together my exhaust from junkyard finds and Pacesetter.

DanteDemont
02-13-2013, 08:09 PM
Are you talking about the brace that goes underneath the engine? Those can make a huge difference in handling.

Yes I was talking about that, I mean if it'll really make a different ill take it then, I want to maximize the upgrades for suspension so I mean I trust the members here, if you guys would recommend it, then it's a good investment in my book.
The only thing is I can't find a cheap one for sh^t they are pretty pricy.
But it's alright, I'll probably save that for the next 2 week upgrades.

DanteDemont
02-13-2013, 08:12 PM
Just to make sure these suspension upgrades will still be compatible with a 3SGTE swap correct?
I mean I don't think it will be any different because we're talking about an engine an suspension but I just want to double check.

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-13-2013, 08:13 PM
If you find a good underbody suspension brace, let me know. There's a company that makes them along with fender well braces. I wouldn't get into investing in all those different braces unless you were auto crossing.

Remove your front sway bar, get polyurethane links and a Suspension Techniques bar in the rear with Megan Coilovers. On a decent set of tires, you won't need to do anything else.

Physlis
02-13-2013, 08:14 PM
Idk about other aftermarket ones but Conrad_Turbo made mine in a group buy and hasn't made plans for another run. I know there are a few other types out there but I can't speak on thier quality. I wouldn't remove the front swaybar though, some insurance companies won't cover you if you get in an accident and it's gone.

On the exhaust, make sure you get a cat put in because the ebay header will delete it. Depending on where/if you get your emissions done you might fail. I have to reinstall my old header every year for inspections.

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-13-2013, 08:14 PM
If you do a top mounted intercooler your strut tower bar will not clear up front. If you move the IC to the bumper, you can clear piping and still make it work.

Murgatroy
02-13-2013, 08:15 PM
The Celica will never be a fast car.

The benefit is making a car that can maintain speed. If everyone else has to slow down and you can continue going fast, you are faster.

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-13-2013, 08:16 PM
Idk about other aftermarket ones but Conrad_Turbo made mine in a group buy and hasn't made plans for another run. I know there are a few other types out there but I can't speak on thier quality.

On the exhaust, make sure you get a cat put in because the ebay header will delete it. Depending on where/if you get your emissions done you might fail. I have to reinstall my old header every year for inspections.

I'd love to get Conrad to make another batch...

On the exhaust, don't lose the mid-pipe resonator or your car will sound like crap.

Physlis
02-13-2013, 08:39 PM
That too, I had a custom setup made and insisted on a resonator, I couldn't afford the cat at the time though.

All these parts will be compatible with a 3S, the front tower brace may be able to be tilted toward the back to clear but idk for sure. It's capable of going back a good distance and you can compensate for it when you drill the holes.


The Celica will never be a fast car.

The benefit is making a car that can maintain speed. If everyone else has to slow down and you can continue going fast, you are faster.

True. With the current setup I can coast at highway speeds even on the slightest hills and corner much faster than I used to. Saves gas, saves tires, lengthens clutch life.

DanteDemont
02-17-2013, 12:34 AM
Thanks so much, ill be drilling them accordingly.
I've already ordered a beefier rear sway bar link, an eBay Headers.

Headers: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=360498222144&index=1&nav=SEARCH&nid=53933573873

SS Brake Lines: http://www.andysautosport.com/toyota/1990_1993_celica/brakes/brake_lines/rubicon_express/

Sway Bar Rear: http://www.andysautosport.com/toyota/1990_1993_celica/suspension/sway_bars/suspension_techniques/

That's my Upgrade list so far for My 92 Celica, I was going to get the under body brace but I don't think it's necessary I think all it does is just stabilize the 3 inch exhaust.
I've been reading up an down on the guides, eventually a 3SGTE will be mine, but from what I've read from The experienced members on here is just upgrade the suspension.
I've already bought new factory Springs an stabilizer bars all the way around, new shocks, pads, ect.


Just to be sure can anyone double check to make sure the SS brake lines are compatible, aswell as the Headers?

Physlis
02-17-2013, 01:24 AM
The header will fit, Idk about the SS lines. My source is around $30 more expensive but it's a set of 4 and are Celica specific.

http://www.alamomotorsports.com/techna-fit/tf_toyota.html If you go this route make sure you get them with a coating, you don't want them exposed.

DanteDemont
02-19-2013, 02:10 AM
The header will fit, Idk about the SS lines. My source is around $30 more expensive but it's a set of 4 and are Celica specific.

http://www.alamomotorsports.com/techna-fit/tf_toyota.html If you go this route make sure you get them with a coating, you don't want them exposed.

Thank you i am now buying the ones you suggested for roughly $103 TOY1100 is the part number correct?

Physlis
02-19-2013, 02:03 PM
That's them. When you replace them I suggest replacing the standard DOT3 fluid with DOT4.

Also to save yourself some time you ought to put together a "one-man brake bleeder". All you need is a empty bottle of some kind (glass is recommended but I used a gatorade bottle), 6-7 feet of vacuum/wiper fluid line, a pair of locking pliers, a drill and some sealant. What you do is drill 2 holes in the lid just smaller than the hose, cut the hose into a short 6-10" piece and intall it 1" or so through the lid, install the other half around 1/2" through and seal them both. Once you have it together you just use the locking pliers on the long end and you'll attach the long end to a vacuum line in the engine bay. the short end will attach to your brake bleeder. When you go to bleed the system start the car and open the bleeder valve, then loosen the pliers until you see a steady stream of fluid and clamp them back down. Repeat for all four calipers. The entire bleed will take less than 10 minutes. Just remember to clamp the vacuum side before closing the bleeder or you'll implode the bottle.

I think I have a pic of it somehwere...

Couldn't find it so here's a crude drawing:
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/5/1/0/0/one-man_brake_bleeder.png (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22554)