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Doowstados
12-30-2012, 07:28 PM
My new engine has a Camry oil pan on it (it is maybe 2"-4" deeper than the Celica one).

I have about 4.5 quarts of oil in it right now, but it isn't even coming up to halfway on the dipstick (my old Celica dipstick).

Is it safe to assume I can just use the old dipstick to measure? I mean, the lower end of the block is the same depth as the old block, so it shouldn't matter, right?

Car_Barn_Bandit
12-30-2012, 08:49 PM
Camry pan will not clear longitudinal engine support brace or exhaust. Learned that one the hard way. It's deeper to accommodate counter balancing shafts. It also lacks the splash guard that keeps from momentary oil loss at the pump pickup when you take your Celica through the curves.

Doowstados
12-31-2012, 12:29 AM
I already have the engine installed, went in no problem. U mad?

Car_Barn_Bandit
12-31-2012, 12:38 AM
Then I doubt it's a Camry pan.

92 celica
12-31-2012, 01:41 AM
My 5sfe in my celica is a camrys ATM with all of the balancing shafts

Btw it's 5 quarts of oil
And it dosnt clear but rests on the brace

Doowstados
12-31-2012, 01:51 AM
I have about 1/2" clearance. Just barely enough to wiggle the trans control cable under (would have sucked if I had to lift the engine to move it over to the other side!).

The reason I know it's a Camry pan is because my exhaust no longer mounts up to the block properly, it hits the oil pan. Going to need to extend it to reach around the pan.

93celicaconv
12-31-2012, 01:56 AM
Why don't you remove the Camry oil pan and the balance shaft assembly, plug the oil galley, and put the Celica oil pan in there and be done? May need to use the Celica pick-up strainer as well, I believe.

Car_Barn_Bandit
12-31-2012, 02:01 AM
Mine certainly hit the brace when I tried it. Keeping oil at the sump pickup was a concern, so I stuck with the correct pan.

Now we need pics. Could be an interesting mod for those who want larger oil capacity or slightly dampened engine.

92 celica
12-31-2012, 03:51 AM
Because my celicas block is being re built so I'm using a camrys for now so I can still get around

93celicaconv
12-31-2012, 04:35 PM
While your Celica's block is being rebuilt, that would give you free use of the oil pan and the oil pick-up/strainer - which would be the best to put on that Camry 5S-FE engine (after removal of the balance shaft assembly and plugging of the oil galley). Having a cross member in contact with the oil pan, given the engine pivots on it's mounts, is really asking for a problem down there. And if one uses the crossmember to jack the front of the car up (which it is designed to do), those crossmembers will put a lot of force on the oil pan during the lift. Just so you are aware.

Doowstados
01-01-2013, 03:49 AM
Here's what I already have, I'll take some more that show how much clearance I have tomorrow.

(They aren't actually this far apart, the pipe is resting on the support)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a265/doowstados/EEA0F495-C102-4D2C-8BC6-89ED470F0C07-6635-000002E6689B1DDE.jpg

(Now I'm holding the pipe up)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a265/doowstados/E8B92110-3EA1-4A6A-97D0-CF58C3EA6558-6635-000002E666E472B4.jpg

The reason I didn't use my old pan is that it is pretty heavily damaged and I wanted the cooler oil. Why is there a need to worry about the sump? Assuming you have the correct pickup etc there should be no problems with this setup, right? I'm not racing around in this car, just DDing. I'm actually looking forward to losing some of the vibration while sitting in stop and go traffic...

92 celica
01-01-2013, 07:08 PM
Here's what I already have, I'll take some more that show how much clearance I have tomorrow.

(They aren't actually this far apart, the pipe is resting on the support)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a265/doowstados/EEA0F495-C102-4D2C-8BC6-89ED470F0C07-6635-000002E6689B1DDE.jpg

(Now I'm holding the pipe up)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a265/doowstados/E8B92110-3EA1-4A6A-97D0-CF58C3EA6558-6635-000002E666E472B4.jpg

The reason I didn't use my old pan is that it is pretty heavily damaged and I wanted the cooler oil. Why is there a need to worry about the sump? Assuming you have the correct pickup etc there should be no problems with this setup, right? I'm not racing around in this car, just DDing. I'm actually looking forward to losing some of the vibration while sitting in stop and go traffic...

That's how mine is the shafts hump clear the brace but the exhaust had to be modified to clear everything

Doowstados
01-02-2013, 01:59 AM
Here's a better picture of clearance. As you can see, only the exhaust pipe is a worry. The pan doesn't come close to anything else, I actually have way more clearance than I thought I did (I hadn't looked at it in a couple of weeks).

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a265/doowstados/34D66C16-7A64-48BE-B1C8-5B8E3A13410C-11111-000004CFF676FEAC.jpg

93celicaconv
01-02-2013, 04:35 AM
That exhaust pipe looks like it is flattened once it makes the turn to head horizontally back. I hope that is not the case. But the bottom of that exhaust pipe sure looks flat. Mine is quite round on the bottom.

Doowstados
01-02-2013, 04:54 AM
That exhaust pipe looks like it is flattened once it makes the turn to head horizontally back. I hope that is not the case. But the bottom of that exhaust pipe sure looks flat. Mine is quite round on the bottom.

It isn't flat, the heat shield is just bent in. The pipe inside is quite cylindrical :laugh:

Car_Barn_Bandit
01-02-2013, 05:36 AM
California cars have a second O2 sensor. That's why the pipe is that way.

Doowstados
01-02-2013, 07:11 AM
California cars have a second O2 sensor. That's why the pipe is that way.

Nah, the bent heat shield is from a curb or something, it was like that when I got the car. It's damaged. The two O2 sensors are on the exhaust manifold and on the bottom of the main cat.