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jdm_celica_gts
09-24-2012, 12:41 AM
Where can I find a pair of new shifter cables?
Are the shifter cables for all st18x chassis the same?

METDeath
09-24-2012, 11:49 AM
Where can I find a pair of new shifter cables?
Are the shifter cables for all st18x chassis the same?

New new? Toyota.

bloodMoney
09-24-2012, 03:26 PM
Good luck. Two years ago we bought one of the last sets Toyota had in the country.

It never hurts to try though.

fussellbug
09-24-2012, 05:31 PM
Earlier this year I was able to buy one of the cables for my GT-S but the other was out of stock and discontinued. I was later able to find a guy selling a decent pair on eBay and used the cable I couldn't get new.

By the way, I know the ST uses different cables then the GT and GT-S but not sure about the All-Trac.

underscore
09-24-2012, 09:28 PM
ST185 cables are ST185 specific. But I'm not how different the other ones are, so it might be worth a shot. Also note that the 184 has different cables for 90-91 and 91-93
33821‑20850 (09/1991 - 08/1993)

jdm_celica_gts
09-25-2012, 12:01 AM
I knew there was a difference between 90-91 and 92-93, mine is bent and makes it grind between shifts since it can't put enough pressure to make it go into gear

bloodMoney
09-25-2012, 12:24 AM
The picture below is a ST185 cable

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/swimcap7041/5-1.jpg

The stepped portion (in red) for the GT/GTS extends all the way to the black line. If you can get a spacer made up to match the 185 cables, they will work. I had a washer cut/bent to space things out right as a temporary solution until I picked up the new cables.

gt4lechacz
09-25-2012, 03:35 PM
I have a set for 92-93 alltrac.
They are still in the car so i have no pics.
They work, ok condition for 20 yr old cables.
I removed the original bushings and put on the bearing conversion.
PM me if interested

alltracman78
10-01-2012, 02:47 AM
The only difference between pre and post revision cables is the size of one of the shifter bushings.
Pre revision both are the same size, post revision has 1 larger than the other. I'm not sure what the improvement was, if any.
Basically, they're interchangeable [I know for a fact on the Alltrac, pretty sure on the GT/GTS].

jdm_celica_gts
10-02-2012, 03:28 AM
Hmm interesting. So if I bought cables for a 92-93, I would just need to buy speed source shifter bushings for a 92-93?
Anyone have the left-hand cable(drivers side) that's really the only one I need.

jdm_celica_gts
11-16-2012, 01:51 PM
http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=44205
Can anyone verify this?
St cables same as all trac?

zen
11-19-2012, 05:55 AM
i used camry shift cables in my 3s fwd e153. also, i had to use spacers for it. i ended up taking a axle washer and cut a portion of it out. the washer slips between the cable and the bracket with the clip on the other side of the trans bracket. its worked for 5yrs now with no issue other than the camry cables being to long and hits the engine block.

jdm_celica_gts
11-21-2012, 04:24 AM
Hmm I wonder what would work on the st185 tranny?

bloodMoney
11-21-2012, 05:35 AM
Here's how I did it on mine. It worked for 3 years... Then I took the car down.

From my how to on alltrac.net:


Seeing as how alltrac cables are becoming few and far between, I've decided to share with you the modifications for fitting GTS cables to your alltrac.

I got this idea because I was having a hard time swallowing the $400 price tag for the two cables and I have a 92 GTS parts car sitting in the pole barn, so here we go....

This being said, I am NOT responsible for damage that occurs due to improper modification.

First, you'll need a set of GTS cables (Sorry I don't have pics of the cables) but here is the important portion of the stock alltrac cable.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/swimcap7041/5.jpg

For the GTS cables, the circled portion extends all the way down to the black line.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/swimcap7041/5-1.jpg

The materials needed for this are as follows:

~24" bolt cutter
~2 pairs of medium sized vice grips (table vice may work as well)
~A straight file
~2 big washers

How big? This big... (I'll get exact measurements at a later date)

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/swimcap7041/3.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/swimcap7041/1.jpg

Now, Take your bolt cutters and cut a piece out of the washer as shown below.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/swimcap7041/6.jpg

Be careful not to cut too much off of the washer as it will be less effective as a spacer!

Next, take your vice grips pull the open end of the washer apart so that it will JUST fit over red circled portion from the 2nd pic. The result should look like this.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/swimcap7041/7.jpg

From here, you'll want to vertically bend the washer so that it's bowed out evenly on both sides of the open end.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/swimcap7041/8.jpg

Make sure that your new spacer isn't too wide that it goes over the larger portion of the cable.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/swimcap7041/9.jpg

After this is done, test fit the washer (on the cable) to the trans bracket and adjust your vertical bend so that the horseshoe clip must be tapped in with a long screwdriver and a hammer. WARNING: If the horseshoe clip slides in too easily, you will lose the washer and possibly the clip. Once this happens, you will grind gears or worse, lose them until the problem is fixed.

Finally, here's a comparison shot of what you started with against what you should have after this little project is done. (est. time ~30 mins)

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/swimcap7041/10.jpg

Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions.

~bloodMoney

jdm_celica_gts
11-21-2012, 02:03 PM
Awesome! Thanks for that. Any idea on the size of those washers? Is that piece closer to the shift base or tranny?

alltracNyx
11-21-2012, 03:04 PM
IIRC, the washers were about 1-1.25" in diameter. It was just what we found at our local hardware store. That section is where you attach the cable to the trans bracket with the horseshoe clips.

fussellbug
11-25-2012, 03:13 PM
If you really have to have original parts, KiethTau is selling a set on eBay. (overpriced just like everything he sells)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-90-93-Celica-GT4-ST185-RC-Rally-3SGTE-Turbo-Genuine-Shift-Cable-Linkage-/350652712254?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51a487c53e&vxp=mtr