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lalojamesliz
06-30-2012, 10:02 PM
hey guys, so i need new tires for my all-trac in the very near future and i went around to wheel and tire shops and all of them told me if i want 17" wheels i have to use 205 with tires.... i know i can fit wider than this. i was looking at some 17x7.5 and some 17x8 wheels but the recommended tire with (tirerack.com) is 215/40/17? would i be ok putting some 225/45 tires on the same wheels? i still have stock suspension.....

darthripley
07-01-2012, 06:50 PM
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

alltracman78
07-01-2012, 07:09 PM
Part of it depends on how wide the wheels are.
205 is WAY too skinny IMO. You should at least run 215.
My last 92 and my 93 both ran 225s; 16x7 on the 92 and 17x7.5 on the 93.
The 92 was on RC suspension [basically the same as a regualar 185, just lower] the 93 has much stiffer than stock but the strut housings are the same size. No rolled fenders.

Personally I don't like the look of skinnier tires streched over wheels, I prefer the tire as wide as can fit on the wheel.

*The tire rack recommendation is probably to keep as close to stock size as possible*

lalojamesliz
07-02-2012, 08:40 AM
well the original plan was to buy new wheels and tires but that would be right around $1100 and after some thinking that is just too much right now :( ...... so option 2: just new tires. i have some wierd brand "DATA CHAMPS D-09" bronze colored wheels and they are VOLK TE37 knock offs from what ive read. not what i would have chosen myself but i got them with my all-trac with new tires. they are 16" wheels but i dont know what with they are off the top of my mind but the tires they have currently on are 205/50/16. so from the reply above i see that i can fit 225 with tires if my rims are at least 7" wide. would 225 with tires fit on anything smaller? my tires and wheels are almost flush with each other. tires are a bit skinnier
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/lalojamesliz/my%201991%20all-trac/2012-05-09091925.jpg

alltracman78
07-02-2012, 04:24 PM
The taller the sidewall the more flexibility you have with tire width. If your sidewall was a 35 there would be more of a stretch to fit a 7" wide wheel.
There's also a point when the tire may fit on the wheel but it's stretched too far to be safe. Keep that in mind too.
IMO I'd go with 225 45 16s.

lalojamesliz
07-02-2012, 04:51 PM
So your saying a 225/45/16 tire would be best on a 7" wide wheel right? Thanks for all of the advice guys. I need to buy these ASAP. One of my tires has a inner bald spot and I'm worried about it. There's no point for me to get a alighnment now until I get the new tires

Murgatroy
07-02-2012, 04:58 PM
225s will fit on a 7" rim.

lalojamesliz
07-02-2012, 05:06 PM
once i get the energy to go out and rotate my bad tire with the bald spot (front right) to the rear right ill see if if it says on my wheels how wide they are on the inside. thanks for answering that Murgatroy:) tirerack.com only has 6 tires for the size 225/45/16 :( and 61 results for the 225/50/16 tires..... with the 225/50 tires these look good to me
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ecsta+4X&partnum=25WR6E4X&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
what do you guys think? would 225/40/16 wheels be to thin?

lalojamesliz
07-02-2012, 06:10 PM
So my wheels are 16x7. Is the offset 40? Would I still be ok with 225 tires if the offset is 40?
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/lalojamesliz/2012-07-02100230.jpg

underscore
07-03-2012, 07:27 PM
I run 225/45R17's on my 16x7's and they fit great. Offset is somewhere around 35-40.

david in germany
07-03-2012, 08:53 PM
I run 225/45R17's on my 16x7's and they fit great. Offset is somewhere around 35-40.

17" tires on 16" wheels?


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underscore
07-03-2012, 09:17 PM
Sorry, 225/45R16 on 16x7's

I didn't get much sleep last night, lol

85gtsblackman
07-03-2012, 10:59 PM
A 225/50/16 is going to fill in that 4x4 gap better though, I had 225/45/16s on my 6th gen and they looked ok once I lowered it. 50 sidewall looked n rode better

underscore
07-03-2012, 11:27 PM
^ depends on the tire but yes, my 225/45R16 Kuhmo Ecsta 712's left a huge gap and looked tiny, but the same size Kuhmo SPT's fill the wells much better. If you're worried about sizing and offset changes vs stock use http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp

85gtsblackman
07-04-2012, 05:44 AM
Sorry I ment isn't, kumhos r narrow. I had nexen 3000s and they are oversize though. Ya could try n find u sum tc rims w/ tires

grimmythereaper
07-04-2012, 06:06 AM
im running 205/55/15 Yokohama s drive tires with the wide body fenders up front and bc of this i think the tire looks to thin. i would say a 225 size would be about the rite size for the widebody celicas

lalojamesliz
07-04-2012, 06:40 AM
A 225/50/16 is going to fill in that 4x4 gap better though, I had 225/45/16s on my 6th gen and they looked ok once I lowered it. 50 sidewall looked n rode better

I ordered some 225/50/16 kuhmo ecsta 4x tires and in the morning they called me from tirerack and asked me if I was sure I wanted that size because they were big for my all-trac so I ended up canceling the order because he made me worry. The guy told me my speedometer will show 60 but ill be going 64. The main reason I canceled the order was because I though it would make my hwy MPG worse. What do you guys think? I don't take turns fast, I just want more traction for when I want to take off fast....that's why I want a wider tire. These are the other tires I was looking at that I couldn't find anywhere else http://www.onlinetires.com/products/vehicle/tires/maxxis/225%252F45-16+maxxis+ma-v1+89v.html

alltracman78
07-04-2012, 02:16 PM
That size will make your hiway MPG better, not worse.
Taller tires raise gas mileage, just like on a bicycle.

And your speedo being off 4 MPH isn't a big deal.

Nothing wrong with that size. Have some confidence man! :)

lalojamesliz
07-04-2012, 03:27 PM
lol i ALWAYS over think things like this! same reason why anything wiring related takes me 3x the time it should :) thank you everyone!

underscore
07-04-2012, 05:53 PM
Check the link I posted, it'll calculate everything you need to know about changing tire sizes and how they effect your speedo etc.

225's will fit a widebody 5g with ease, just look at how narrow the stock tires look (which IIRC, were 215's from the factory)

alltracman78
07-04-2012, 06:48 PM
So I lied a little bit. :P
My wheels are actually 17x8 with a +17 offset.
Stock strut housings and no spacers.

If you want pics I have an old FS thread [car isn't FS anymore :P] if you want to dig it up.

lalojamesliz
07-09-2012, 10:31 PM
Well I bought the 225/50/16 tires and received them today. I stood one of them next to one of my rear wheel/tire and quietly said "SHIT"I just dropped of my all-trac at a tire/wheel place and they also compared the tires and said it might rub. Thy mounted one of the new tires on my wheels and put it in the front and told me it might be ok. they took a small drive around the building and said it was fine. they then put that same new tire in the back and it was fine also :) those new tires definitely fill in that gap my other tires had and kinda had to get comfortable with thay new look..... ill post pics in a hour or so when I go back. I don't like leaving my all-trac with strangers :(

lalojamesliz
07-10-2012, 01:20 AM
The ride home felt smoother and a turn I usually take fast felt better. Ill take a full side pic after I wash my car. I just washed it a couple days ago but some birds ambushed it yesterday.

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/lalojamesliz/2012-07-09160144.jpg
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/lalojamesliz/2012-07-09160308.jpg
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/lalojamesliz/2012-07-09160321.jpg

lalojamesliz
07-10-2012, 05:22 AM
I swear my all-trac feels like it's a foot higher off the floor. the rpms are 200rpm lower at the same speeds.

Murgatroy
07-11-2012, 10:56 PM
Slam it to the ground, then you can bitch every time you have to crawl in or out of her.

But damn, she will look good.