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jdm_celica_gts
04-04-2012, 04:08 AM
My all trac has been sitting for a few weeks now without moving, sadly... but today I went to start it... and nothing, courtesy lights, radio, clock, dash everything comes on fine. But when I go to turn it over nothing happens, it doesn't even try, if I hold the key in the on position and push in the clutch, I can hear what sounds like a relay clicking... what does this go to?

Any ideas about what could be wrong is appreciated.

alltracman78
04-04-2012, 07:59 PM
Sounds like your starter relay. It's in the passenger kick panel.
You may also be hearing you starter solenoid click.

It sounds like your battery may be a little weak. I would start by trying to jump it or recharge the battery. Your starter contacts may be worn and you battery too weak to power the starter.
It wouldn't hurt to test the battery too, make sure it's not worn out.

jdm_celica_gts
04-05-2012, 02:14 AM
Yeah I can hear it from the passenger kick panel, and its a new yellow top optima. So it shouldnt be bad but ill check it out

alltracman78
04-05-2012, 02:21 AM
Your battery isn't in the trunk, is it?

jdm_celica_gts
04-05-2012, 02:54 AM
No I wanted to relocate it but I heard it puts off some fumes, dont know how true that is but Ill just get a Odyssey race battery cause its much easier haha

4thgenceli
04-05-2012, 03:03 AM
Sealed batteries shouldn't emit fumes

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jdm_celica_gts
04-05-2012, 04:15 AM
That's what I thought, I just heard that they do, didn't know for sure

Eric Barrera
04-05-2012, 04:25 AM
My car was doing the exact same thing. Ended up being bad cells in the battery.

alltracman78
04-05-2012, 03:48 PM
Sealed [gel] batterys can still emit gas.
It will be a lot less, and they may not. But there's the same chemical reaction, so there's still the potential for gas.
Plus, IMO putting the battery in the trunk is asking for more electrical problems.

Have you tried jump starting it yet?

jdm_celica_gts
04-06-2012, 04:20 AM
No, I have been on 14 hour shifts at work so I haven't been motivated enough to try it

The Captain
04-06-2012, 05:01 AM
Or you can have a dead spot in the starter.

jdm_celica_gts
04-06-2012, 05:37 AM
I'm leaning more towards a starter issue cause everything works and lights up as bright as it would if it was running, so I'm pretty sure the battery is good.

But if it was a starter wouldn't it at least try to turn over?

alltracman78
04-06-2012, 04:25 PM
That's why I'm leaning towards the battery as a starting point. USUALLY if the contacts are worn [that's what generally goes in a Toyota starter] and the battery is good it will still pull the solenoid closed and you will hear the starter click. It just won't spin.
You may also have a problem with the coil side wiring going to the starter. If that were the case the starter wouldn't click.
And you may have a different problem in the starter, or a problem somewhere in the car wiring.
There's a lot of things that it could be, the fun part is finding what it is.

You just need to check one thing at a time, so you can rule stuff out. Instead of throwing parts at it. :)

jdm_celica_gts
04-06-2012, 07:58 PM
Wasnt planning on buying anything yet haha, ill try jumping the battery today


Just jumped it, it tool a couple tries but I finally got it to start, guess my battery was too weak for the starter

l0ch0w
04-07-2012, 05:05 PM
. nvm. looks like u solved it...

jdm_celica_gts
04-07-2012, 07:03 PM
Haha yeah, at least enough to start it.... still need to replace wheel bearing and intake manifold gaskit, so its really not drivable yet.

Eric Barrera
04-07-2012, 07:19 PM
Hope that it holds the charge.

jdm_celica_gts
04-08-2012, 01:35 AM
Yeah I hope so

90ToyAllTrac
04-08-2012, 06:35 AM
I have the most cobbled together all trac in north america, this last winter I could jump start it and it wouldnt start 3-7 days later, had lights and power but would just click and not turn over. But another jump start would do it. Now that its warm out it holds a charge better. And its a new battery. So it just needs to be run every few days depending if its freezing or not.

jdm_celica_gts
04-08-2012, 06:22 PM
Nah don't gotta worry about freezing, the low here is like 55 at night.

lalojamesliz
04-11-2012, 06:19 AM
If you find time, take apart the starter and clean the plunger and contacts. It definitely helps turning over the engine even with a low battery. Its soon to be on my maintenance list.

jdm_celica_gts
04-11-2012, 08:17 PM
It's a rebuilt starter with 4k miles on it so I don't think that's a problem, battery was just too far gone