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Numbchux
01-30-2012, 10:27 PM
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4thgenceli
01-30-2012, 10:40 PM
Must be fast cuz there's a lot of stickers on it.

UtahSleeper
01-30-2012, 11:24 PM
They fucked up the front bumper.

Numbchux
01-31-2012, 01:11 AM
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CollapsedNut
01-31-2012, 01:16 AM
which one is the class sticker? the "L"?

Hipster Lawrence
01-31-2012, 01:20 AM
Ice racer?

pintoBC_3sgte
01-31-2012, 01:49 AM
Cool!! I want a sparco tent! :p

MCcelica
01-31-2012, 07:36 AM
See I was thinking there was a pair of scissors on the ice. Or whatever that is with the blue handle...

taibones
01-31-2012, 07:57 PM
the US flag is backwards, the US flag never runs away

MCcelica
01-31-2012, 10:19 PM
Backwards ass army hooahs...

Numbchux
02-01-2012, 02:17 AM
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Hookecho
02-01-2012, 02:48 AM
Thread of the year award.

UtahSleeper
02-01-2012, 04:44 PM
Is that car on 6gc? Could have sworn I saw a build on there where someone was converting a 202 to awd and keeping the 5sfe.

gen5dream
02-02-2012, 02:54 AM
i honestly had no idea... thanks for the info!

Numbchux
02-02-2012, 05:46 AM
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T-spoon
02-02-2012, 04:16 PM
Yep. Build thread:
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=76086



With all the nasty posts I've seen saying that it's stupid and/or nearly impossible to do an AWD swap....Then I stumbled across this thing at the rally last weekend.

That still doesn't make doing an AWD conversion a great idea for most people. This isn't the only one to have been done before.

UtahSleeper
02-02-2012, 05:35 PM
I have heard the 6th gen is the easiest one to do though and doesn't require nearly as much work.

METDeath
02-02-2012, 07:10 PM
6th gen apparently doesn't require the fab work that 5th gen does. Apparently Toyota went to a single chassis for the hatch that included room for the AWD stuff, not sure on the coupe. So to do an AWD conversion you just need shitton o' parts.

alltracNyx
02-06-2012, 11:21 PM
6th gen apparently doesn't require the fab work that 5th gen does. Apparently Toyota went to a single chassis for the hatch that included room for the AWD stuff, not sure on the coupe. So to do an AWD conversion you just need shitton o' parts.

This.

Marshall is correct in that a FWD 6th gen is easier to convert to AWD because the driveshaft tunnel is already there. _Jim_ over on 6gc regularly sells a kit that includes pretty much everything you'll need for the 6th gen AWD conversion, including an ST205 gas tank and custom weld-in rear sub frame connectors. On a 5th gen, you would also need to weld in new floor pans to accomodate the driveshaft.

So yeah, it's an easier conversion for a 6th gen, but it is still quite a bit of money and labor, and even more so for a 5th gen.

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-06-2012, 11:28 PM
I had no idea. This is awesome.

Think about it, you keep the VIN on an ST202 which is LEGAL to drive in the US but run a turbo and AWD like the ST205 which is ILLEGAL to drive in the US. It's actually a pretty awesome conversion for the yanks when you think about it.

alltracNyx
02-06-2012, 11:30 PM
I had no idea. This is awesome.

Think about it, you keep the VIN on an ST202 which is LEGAL to drive in the US but run a turbo and AWD like the ST205 which is ILLEGAL to drive in the US. It's actually a pretty awesome conversion for the yanks when you think about it.

Oh, trust me. We have thought about it.

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-06-2012, 11:33 PM
I will never look at the 6th gen the same way.

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spitfiremk16
02-07-2012, 02:12 AM
I will never look at the 6th gen the same way.

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^ i agree with him, that awd swap is very cool but that car would be alot more cool/fun with a 205 motor in it!

T-spoon
02-07-2012, 02:31 AM
^ i agree with him, that awd swap is very cool but that car would be alot more cool/fun with a 205 motor in it!

Yeah, that's been done too, actually. If I'm not mistaken Smaay may have owned one that had this done to it before he bought it. I'm not certain if it was him or someone else, and I don't recall if it was a well done conversion and still on the road or not.. but I do remember it. I think they may have bought their st205 hood/bumper parts etc. for that car from the dealership I used to work at. In any event.. yeah, interesting.

Lonestag
02-10-2012, 02:33 AM
Thats sweet, I mean, getting around the headache of importing would be great.

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-10-2012, 10:37 AM
Time to find me a wrecked ST202, weld in the rear to my ST184 and source parts for AWD swap...

manda
02-12-2012, 07:14 PM
Time to find me a wrecked ST202, weld in the rear to my ST184 and source parts for AWD swap...

oooooor....... you could just take that money you're going to spend on a wrecked 202 and buy a not wrecked 185... Novel though, eh?

METDeath
02-12-2012, 10:04 PM
Time to find me a wrecked ST202, weld in the rear to my ST184 and source parts for AWD swap...

Or just buy the ST185 rear floor pan (under $500 iirc) and have a GOOD body shop weld it in.

Tecker184
02-12-2012, 11:07 PM
^ Were would you get a st-185 rear floor pan?

METDeath
02-13-2012, 02:26 AM
Toyota.

Tecker184
02-13-2012, 03:24 AM
Do you happen to have the part number?

METDeath
02-13-2012, 09:15 AM
Check this thread http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?41339-My-5th-Gen-AWD-conversion-GT/page5

bloodMoney
02-14-2012, 04:48 AM
Toyota stopped making the ST185 floor pans long ago. This is the reason why so many of them are getting scrapped out for the infamous front sway bar mount rust.

The reason why the AWD conversion is more common on the 6g is that fact that the floorpans are the same until you get aft of the rear seats. Jmeyer on 6gc sells the mount kits that are needed for this. The kit includes:

Driveshaft carrier bearing mounts
Crosscar (forward) rear subframe mount
LH/RH (aft) rear subframe mounts
*optional* 10Gal fuel cell (unsure about mounting)

The cost for the mounts: ~$600

After removing the old fuel tank, the spare tire well must be cut out and a plate welded in.

If it were me, and it may be in a couple years, I would use this as classroom time to work on my welding skills. I've got enough friends/family that are certified welders to check my work. :)

richee3
02-14-2012, 08:25 PM
Steve's build is awesome. He just popped up on 6gc one day saying he was going to rally the car and make it AWD, and he was met with the usual "yeah, right" response. A few short weeks later he has a 3S-GE powered AWD rally car. It's not exactly a conversion that anybody can do but it's definitely becoming much more realistic for a few brave souls.

Even the 6th gen coupe has the same floor pan. I believe it gets slightly longer than the hatch after the wheels but they still have the drive shaft tunnel.

UtahSleeper
02-14-2012, 08:49 PM
I am looking forward to trying to take this on one day. My reasonable dream car is a ST205, and unless I move out of the US, this is my only legal means to obtain one. Or wait till it hits 25 years and hope the gov doesn't change the laws then lol.

Car_Barn_Bandit
02-14-2012, 10:09 PM
Even the 6th gen coupe has the same floor pan. I believe it gets slightly longer than the hatch after the wheels but they still have the drive shaft tunnel.

Time for John to get working on an AWD 6th gen. convertible named Countess...