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Doowstados
10-07-2011, 08:40 AM
Looking to go maybe an inch to two inches lower.

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/269516_10150722363670019_809925018_19976509_163975 4_n.jpg

I basically want the fenders to sit about an inch off the wheels. Right now they are about 2 1/2 to 3 inches up. My reasoning for wanting to go a bit lower is that my wheels are pretty large 17" Scion tC wheels that raised my car quite a bit from stock ride height.

I don't know anything about car suspension. I do know I don't want to spend a bunch of money on brand name racing coilovers, because this is my daily driver and I don't want to feel like I'm riding a horse bareback.

It's my understanding that I can ride on stock struts with new springs. Is this recommended, or should I buy a package deal? My current struts seem to be in okay shape.

Does anybody have any recommendations? I'm clueless. I was looking at these because Megan is a decent name from what I hear, but they seem a bit cheap. Too good to be true? Anybody know how they ride?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MEGAN-RACING-LOWERING-SPRINGS-TOYOTA-CELICA-90-99-/380354748045?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1991|Model%3ACelica&hash=item588ee8de8d


http://www.meganracing.com/uploadImage/regular/new%20evo%20springs%20x400.jpg

Galcobar
10-07-2011, 09:07 AM
Larger wheels should only increase ride height unless you didn't compensate for the difference in your tire size.

E.g. stock GT 14-inch wheels used 185/65R14 tires (185 mm across, sidewalls were 0.65 x 185mm, wheels are 14 inches in diametre) for an overall diametre of 23.45 inches.

A 215/40R17 tire and rim combination will produce an overall diametre of 23.77 inches -- your speedometre will read about 1.33% too slow, but generally +/- 3% is considered acceptable. Even a 205/45R17 is actually outside this, albeit only by a fraction with an overall diametre of 24.26 inches.

You can ride on stock struts with lowering springs, but there's additional stress on the components. If those aren't just stock, but originals, replacement is either required now, or will be shortly after installation -- which is why most people refresh their suspension (shock dampeners, spring seat insulators, strut mounts, bump stops, and boots) when installing springs. Having done so myself, pricewise a full refresh works out very closely to installing a set of adjustable coil-overs. You will pay a penalty in ride comfort either way.

Waffles!
10-07-2011, 01:36 PM
Megan's actually give both a decent ride and sportiness when needed. Murg has them on Chaos. I would recommend them.

pintoBC_3sgte
10-07-2011, 11:55 PM
I found my megans way too soft when I had them. Bottomed out a lot

CriScO
10-08-2011, 12:18 AM
I've never had any issues with my Eibachs. That's probably the best compromise you'll find.

I agree with everyone else though, there's no sense in taking the tower apart without changing the struts and mounts.

Doowstados
10-08-2011, 12:55 AM
Any recommendations on spring/strut sets then?

Also, not looking to buy these, but I thought Tein didn't make kits for the 5th gen?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-93-Toyota-Celica-Tein-SS-P-Super-Street-W-Pillowball-Mounts-Coilovers-/270828332747?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1991|Model%3ACelica&hash=item3f0ea066cb

http://www.tein.com/products/photo/ssp_products.jpg

Terracar
10-08-2011, 02:27 PM
For comfort you will want a spring / strut setup as coilovers are a harsher ride. I ran intraxx with the GR2s on my '91 GTS and it was a nice balance of comfort and performance. I would recommend a quality spring, Eibach or H&R. The intraxx were great, but I think they stopped making them. The GR2s wear out faster and really suck when they are gone for ride quality, but it does take a while.

-Terracar

819_ay
10-08-2011, 08:33 PM
i didn't want to start a new threead, but i also need the change the suspension on my st185, which would be better coilovers or struts or springs, like everyone else i would like to have some confort, but i want more handling then confort, i dont mind for the confort, so yah, i was thinking of the megan coilovers,since they are kinda cheap in price...and no Tein does not make them for our cars, i sent them a e-mail, and they replied that they can make on for the st185 for 700$ a corner...

thx guys

METDeath
10-08-2011, 08:59 PM
Megan's actually give both a decent ride and sportiness when needed. Murg has them on Chaos. I would recommend them.

He has the full coil-over assembly, not the springs.

Car_Barn_Bandit
10-08-2011, 10:49 PM
Eibach Pro-Kit if you can find them. Very pleased.

819_ay
10-09-2011, 03:19 AM
that's what i was looking to buy the megan coilover kit, i think i'm going to give them a try soon...also thinking of buying a set of poly bushes...

KoreanJoey
10-12-2011, 02:55 AM
Poly bushings will DEFINITELY change the comfort of the car. Be aware that it will make the car vibrate a lot more (those rubber bushings dampen a lot).

Doowstados
10-15-2011, 03:23 AM
For comfort you will want a spring / strut setup as coilovers are a harsher ride. I ran intraxx with the GR2s on my '91 GTS and it was a nice balance of comfort and performance. I would recommend a quality spring, Eibach or H&R. The intraxx were great, but I think they stopped making them. The GR2s wear out faster and really suck when they are gone for ride quality, but it does take a while.

-Terracar

http://www.streetperformance.com/part/intrax/suspension-lowering-kit/5397936-557914.html

Are those the springs you used?

Car_Barn_Bandit
10-15-2011, 05:46 AM
What are the rates on the Intraxx?