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celica9303
09-07-2011, 04:50 AM
Why don't they make em for the 5gc but the do for the 6gc and the 4gc?? I know phillip(mr babb or itoktosmokev8s) modded a tein set from another car to work on his old celica. Wish I would have saved the pics/info from that. Tein hood struts are way over priced imo....

I know nrg and sokie tech(ebay seller/great reviews) make them for the 6gc and almost everyother toyota(including my 4runner) but for some reason they skipped the 90-93 celicas like the aftermarket does with everything.....grrr

Would there be interest in these for the 5th gen? Will the 6gc ones work? The hood/fender bolts are almost identical to the 5gc.
How come they say not to use them with frp or carbon fiber hoods??

The hood prop gets in my way lol

Car_Barn_Bandit
09-07-2011, 04:51 AM
At the Great Lakes meet, you can see how it's done...

celica9303
09-07-2011, 04:57 AM
Wow that was fast.....are you stalking me lol?
There's a company in detroit mi that makes these too, I asked why the 5gc was skipped and they gave me a bs clearance issue problem, I even offer to drive my car there so they could take measurments and what not.....no response

trumanpriest
09-07-2011, 03:20 PM
I posted up a thread just like this a few months ago. There is a company called Redline that was willing to make some for us, but they need to get a car out to their shop, they are in Dexter, Michigan.

http://www.redlinetuning.com/

http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?52099-Hood-Struts&highlight=

temperacerguy
09-07-2011, 03:46 PM
ok, to answer a few questions....

Hood struts are very easy to make. you can pick up the struts and ball joints at any automotive parts store. Then just pick up some angle iron, cut it to shape, bolt the ball joints to the angle iron, paint the brackets, and rivet them to the hood/chassis.

I purchased sets of redline units for my Evo for both the trunk and the hood for the simple reason I didn't want to dick around at fabricating them at the time, but the "kits" are just way overpriced.

They say not to use them on GFRP and CFRP hoods because it puts stress on the middle of the hood when you grab the front of the hood to close it, and as fiberglass/carbon fiber hoods are flimsey, they will break in half after some time.

I use them on my carbon fiber trunk, but I also have a pretty bad-ass, strong carbon fiber trunk.

DudeMan
09-07-2011, 04:44 PM
Yeah I've been planning on doing this for a while.. Just gonna find some small ones at the wrecker or something, shouldn't be too hard.

temperacerguy
09-07-2011, 04:50 PM
The struts are like $10 new at the parts store (with ball joints), with such a low price, not sure why you'd be going to a junk yard to get some old ones.

Car_Barn_Bandit
09-07-2011, 04:56 PM
The struts are like $10 new at the parts store (with ball joints), with such a low price, not sure why you'd be going to a junk yard to get some old ones.

For the fun factor. $3 a strut off of a Celica that came with them standard.

celica9303
09-07-2011, 05:11 PM
I posted up a thread just like this a few months ago. There is a company called Redline that was willing to make some for us, but they need to get a car out to their shop, they are in Dexter, Michigan.

http://www.redlinetuning.com/

http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?52099-Hood-Struts&highlight=

That's who I contacted. Offered to drive my car there for mesurments and never heard back....ill check your thread.

acidice333
09-09-2011, 12:42 AM
Good luck :)

Clearance issues are stopping me. and no the 6gc ones won't work.

I clear one thing and then another issue pops up, etc.. I'm looking for a bolt on solution so that's the cause of all my issues :)

If someone could buy me some M6 ball studs w/ 10mm ball that would be great since I'm having a hell of a time finding anybody "here" that sells M6. They all got M8 but I need M6 :(

celica9303
09-09-2011, 02:31 AM
Good luck :)

Clearance issues are stopping me. and no the 6gc ones won't work.

I clear one thing and then another issue pops up, etc.. I'm looking for a bolt on solution so that's the cause of all my issues :)

If someone could buy me some M6 ball studs w/ 10mm ball that would be great since I'm having a hell of a time finding anybody "here" that sells M6. They all got M8 but I need M6 :(

Trumanpriest and I are working with a company to get these made as we speak.

trumanpriest
09-09-2011, 03:38 AM
Ok, found my original email exchange and sent a reply out today - will wait and see if anything comes back. If I don't hear back from them in a few days I will call them up. Their original reply took nearly 2 weeks. Email below, just to keep folks interested in the loop;


Good evening Brian,

It's taken a while - but I have a gentleman who is willing to bring his car out to see if a system could be designed. What is the best way to arrange this? Is there a contact number that could be used to make sure a time and date is chosen that will work? Or is email the preferred method? Please let me know at your earliest convenience as we have quite a few folks waiting to see if struts can be developed for our cars. Thank you sir.

Mark

From: sales@redlinetuning.com
To: *****
Subject: RE: Hood Struts compatibility for 1990-1993 Toyota Celica
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:10:12 -0500

Hello,
Unfortunately we do not have a system for your vehicle… if we could get a volunteer near us in Dexter, Michigan to visit us for a couple hours, we could review the vehicle and possibly design a system.

We did work on a Celica once that resulted in a design that didn’t meet our criteria to sell the system – I believe it might have been a newer version than yours. We would need to see the vehicle in person to be able to make a decision about product development.

Thanks
Brian
Redline Tuning

From: Mark ******
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 11:34 AM
To: sales@redlinetuning.com
Subject: Hood Struts compatibility for 1990-1993 Toyota Celica

Good morning,

I've seen your products personally on many 2nd Generation Toyota Tacoma's and would very much like to have a set that would work with my 1990 Toyota Celica All-trac. Prop rods suck you see. I do not see any kits explicitly stating compatibility however I was hoping that you perhaps would have a set that could be applied. If I am able to find a compatible set then I wouldn't doubt that there would be more 5th generation Celica owners interested (I personally know of several All-trac owners interested). Any help you could provide would be more than appreciated. Thank you very much.

celica9303
09-09-2011, 03:43 PM
Thanks man. Keep me up to date . Do you want my number?? Or email? Like I said I'm only an hour away so its nothing for me to go up, and get something for our community to benifit from

cms-gt4
09-09-2011, 05:17 PM
I remember someone modifying RX8 hood struts to fit. An affordable off the shelf version would be nice.

trumanpriest
09-09-2011, 05:28 PM
Ok, got a response. If you want to PM me your email addy I can forward you the chain I originally started with him - or you can just fake it and copy all the text over in a new email. He is asking that the "volunteer" email him and take a few pics also. See below.


Please have the volunteer email me - we will arrange a time for this
person to visit for the installation - takes a couple hours.

I will also need to see some photos of the hood frame, fender lip areas
prior - I can generally determine whether a system will have major hurdles
or not prior to someone driving here.

Brian
Redline Tuning

celica9303
09-09-2011, 07:27 PM
You got pm.

celica9303
09-09-2011, 09:25 PM
I emailed redlinetuning. Hopefully well know soon if this can be done for us.

pintoBC_3sgte
09-10-2011, 03:06 AM
Sweeet! Hope this pans out :D

Mr. Babb
09-10-2011, 04:31 PM
here ya go hood struts (http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?35064-YaY-for-no-hood-prop!&highlight=)

And just for the record.... clearance issues would be a problem with hoods other that the CS/RC

allTRACway
09-11-2011, 03:13 AM
or you could do the gay honda thing and get a 90 degree hood set up and just lay your hood on the windshield lol

celica9303
09-11-2011, 03:26 AM
Ahahah
or you could do the gay honda thing and get a 90 degree hood set up and just lay your hood on the windshield lol

HahahahhahahaaNO

celica9303
09-11-2011, 03:24 PM
here ya go hood struts (http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?35064-YaY-for-no-hood-prop!&highlight=)

And just for the record.... clearance issues would be a problem with hoods other that the CS/RC

Why would the clearance be any different? The hood frame/fender area is the same on all the hoods...isn't it?

Mr. Babb
09-11-2011, 04:02 PM
Because the way I did it, when the hood is closed the strut sits in the bulge that is circled below. Other style hoods dont have this bulge
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/5/4/3/4/untitled_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=20501)

acidice333
09-11-2011, 07:43 PM
Yup that is correct.
The struct body is too thick so the bulge is kinda in the way so when you close the hood, that corner of the hood kinda sticks out a little

celica9303
09-12-2011, 05:07 PM
Still havent heard back yet

trumanpriest
09-12-2011, 08:54 PM
Still havent heard back yet

....sigh. Hope they get you out there this week.

celica9303
09-12-2011, 09:45 PM
So do i. I emailed again. Hoping for Thursday cuz its my only day to do it this week.

celica9303
09-13-2011, 11:35 PM
Well I finally heard back... gotta send the pics he requested. Brian said they did do a system for a celica before but didn't like how it fit due to clearance with the hood and fenders. So they decided not to market it. (Hoping it wasn't the 5th gen) but once he gets the pics hell know for sure. He's gonna look into the schedule for Thursday also.

Imo if other companies can make a system for a 6gc I don't see why they can't for our application.

Does anyone have a 6gc they can take pics of for me so I can compare the fender wells? And also the edge of the hood (engine side)

trumanpriest
09-14-2011, 12:19 AM
Might be worthwhile if no one objects to sent pictures of what the other members on here have made work as custom setups. If individuals can make a one off that works reliably then I would think they could come up with a method also. Just my 2 cents. (Glad they pinged you back finally ;) )

Car_Barn_Bandit
09-14-2011, 02:16 AM
Might be worthwhile if no one objects to sent pictures of what the other members on here have made work as custom setups. If individuals can make a one off that works reliably then I would think they could come up with a method also. Just my 2 cents. (Glad they pinged you back finally ;) )

I am actually working on this. If successful it gets a video write up.

acidice333
09-14-2011, 06:14 PM
if u don't have a problem with making holes it should be no problem.

trumanpriest
09-16-2011, 06:54 PM
Did he get you down there yesterday or are you still in a holding pattern?

celica9303
09-16-2011, 07:56 PM
Did he get you down there yesterday or are you still in a holding pattern?

Still ihngggfvggtrfvfgvbgvvvb

celica9303
09-16-2011, 07:59 PM
C,xLol sorry my wife was messing with my keypad lol

Still in holding. Thursday didn't work. Sent pics to them and am now waiting to hear if they think its worth me coming up there or not.

allTRACway
09-16-2011, 08:07 PM
wow sad i hope this all workes you think a narrow body with stock hood set up would work with a widebody with a cs hood?

Mr. Babb
09-17-2011, 02:34 AM
wide body and narrow body are the same when it comes to clearance for hood struts. CS hood will make a difference though

trumanpriest
11-03-2011, 06:46 PM
Anything come of this?

celica9303
11-03-2011, 08:43 PM
Nothing at all.... They stopped communicating with me, after I sent pics

pintoBC_3sgte
11-04-2011, 01:33 AM
well that sucks.. thanks for trying to get it going tho. :)

dkrew
11-18-2011, 07:07 AM
Damn that sucks.... I've been wanting some hood struts for the longest too =/

zen
12-17-2011, 07:37 PM
i made a set. it works fine and it will clear the all hoods. only thing is that i had it fabbed up for a carbon hood so weight plays a role. hopefully i could find the same struts that will support the celicas 40lb hood.

Eric Barrera
12-17-2011, 08:09 PM
There 40lbs? Oh shit!

METDeath
12-17-2011, 08:23 PM
There 40lbs? Oh shit!

ST/GT/GTS hood is... the All-trac and CS hoods are heavier.

zen
12-18-2011, 03:58 AM
yes barrera, they are roughly about 40 lbs... it took two people to load up ur alltrac hood at my house... lols.. cs hood is actually a little lighter than the rest.. but over all, hood and frame clearnce is very little so a thicker strut will have issues but will support 40 lb hood.

cms-gt4
01-06-2012, 07:14 PM
I was pretty sure I weighed the alltrac hood at 44. The rc hood was slightly lighter.