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amx
07-01-2011, 03:20 PM
At 3:00 this morning, my brother's engine caught fire. I ran outside to see flames 6 feet high shooting from the hood of his mercedes, which was parked right next to my all-trac.

Nobody was hurt, and the fire dept arrived in time to stop it from spreading to the house, but the cars were too close together to keep it from spreading to the celi. Pretty sure it's totalled.

I'll post pics shortly... Gotta work myself up to going out there and facing it again. :(

Murgatroy
07-01-2011, 03:26 PM
That majorly sucks.

I am sorry.

T-spoon
07-01-2011, 03:38 PM
GAH!

ChrisD
07-01-2011, 03:41 PM
Damn! Any indication to the cause?

Yet another reason why we should ALL carry fire extinguishers in our cars.

UtahSleeper
07-01-2011, 04:08 PM
Wow..................that is fucked up. Not even something you did and your trac gets torched. I hope it's fixable. Maybe there is another person out there like the user here that fixed a totched trac.

DudeMan
07-01-2011, 04:25 PM
Damn! Any indication to the cause?

Yet another reason why we should ALL carry fire extinguishers in our cars.

I would like grab one before mines back on the road. Do you need a certain kind? One specific for fuel maybe?

Really sorry to hear that dude, was there any chance of moving the Celi?

93celicaconv
07-01-2011, 05:20 PM
A Mercedes torches and takes out your All-Trac? Oh my goodness. That is very depressing news. I hope you find that she's repairable, and that your brother has the insurance to cover it. If he had a Mercedes, likely that he has good insurance coverage.

Facime
07-01-2011, 06:37 PM
I would like grab one before mines back on the road. Do you need a certain kind? One specific for fuel maybe?


if you want the best, get a halon extinguisher.

this one for example.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/a344t.php


The advantage of halon is there is no clean up as opposed to dry chemical extinguishers

grimmythereaper
07-01-2011, 06:49 PM
all i can say is wow that sux and i hope she is savable, im glad nobody got hurt

amx
07-01-2011, 08:28 PM
Thanks for the words of support, guys.

Before the sun came up and I had a good look at the car, I was holding out hope, but it looks even worse in the daylight. :(

The cause...well, the inspector said it was pretty clearly mechanical. My brother's car has been having issues, but he's been in kind of a fucked-up situation with regard to work, and hasn't had the money or the time to take it to the shop. Could have been electrical, could have been a fuel leak, who knows. The fire started about an hour after he got home from work. I woke up when one of the tires and then a window exploded, but by the time I ran outside, the fire was too big to risk moving the 'trac.

I think the sight of the flames licking at my left fender are permanently seared into my brain. :cry:

Anyway, photos:

Kinda looks okay from these angles:

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/3/2/3/burnt1.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19813)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/3/2/3/burnt2.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19814)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/3/2/3/burnt5.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19812)

Except, you know, not.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/3/2/3/burnt3.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19815)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/3/2/3/burnt4.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19816)

And the culprit.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/3/2/3/merc.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19817)

amx
07-01-2011, 08:36 PM
Really sorry to hear that dude, was there any chance of moving the Celi?

Hahaha, I wanted to. Oh man, I was so close to jumping in there and at least trying to pop the e-brake and roll it out of the way.

But I also had the phone in my hand and figured, however much it hurt, that calling 911 was the more important thing to do.

CollapsedNut
07-01-2011, 08:53 PM
Note to self. Keep 5' distance to other cars.

Waffles!
07-01-2011, 09:59 PM
Nooooooooo!

Hookecho
07-01-2011, 11:13 PM
That stinks. How is the interior? Is the engine ok as far as wiring and plastics being melted? If so then swap that motor into another Celica.

If not then part it out.

Murgatroy
07-01-2011, 11:31 PM
I think it could be salvaged, but I am not sure if it would be worth the effort to be honest.

pintoBC_3sgte
07-02-2011, 01:19 AM
holy shit! :( from the rear shots i thought... oh its not bad at all, but the front shots..... im sorry for your loss

Eric Barrera
07-02-2011, 01:23 AM
-____- Fawk.

Sorry for your loss man

187flatliner
07-02-2011, 02:10 AM
its repairable........your brothers insurance should cover it.......but yeah i would check the motor and then swap to a new celi.

Carolina91GT-S
07-02-2011, 03:09 AM
GAH!

^ This

bzdweezy
07-02-2011, 03:55 AM
This made me sad I hope you can save the trac

amx
07-02-2011, 05:56 AM
So I got the hood open, and um, wow. Basically everything that wasn't metal has been vaporised. Might be able to salvage the head, block, and intercooler. Pretty much everything else is either toast or melted beyond recognition. At this point, it's probably safe to say that the motor's not going anywhere.

Interior is okay from the front seats back, it's sooty and smoke-stained but probably fairly salvageable. The heat also sealed all the cracks in the leather in the passenger's seat, so I've got a great-looking, albeit messy, passenger seat, go figure. The gauge cluster is gone, melted along with the dash when the windshield blew.

The frame and all the structural components still look sound at this point. With enough money, and a garage to rebuild it in, I'm thinking it could probably be repaired. I've seen worse resurrected before. But those are two luxuries I'm a little short on right now. Insurance said it'll be about a week for the fire investigator's report to come in, so I'm going to wait to see what they say. More than likely it's going to have to be parted out though.

The worst part is, my brother only had liability on his car, so he's totally screwed, and I feel horrible for him. If we can prove his liability, I may be able to get something for the All-Trac, and they'll cover the damage to the house, but he's getting nothing for the Merc, regardless. Unless we can find something to indicate it was started by some outside source that'll fall under homeowner's insurance, that is.

Man, what a day. Happy upcoming 4th, I guess? Stay safe, y'all. :(

Facime
07-02-2011, 07:13 AM
what a drag.

You're right, Ive seen worse rebuilt, but based on what some others are getting for their cars right now, the money invested just doesnt make any sense.

The Captain
07-02-2011, 02:37 PM
:sadcry:

T-spoon
07-02-2011, 03:48 PM
I know it's absolutely no consolation and preaching to the choir for you, OP, but for everyone else, PLEASE don't carry liability only. As bad as your financial situation feels, it will be so much worse if something like this happens to you and you aren't covered. I've seen this time and again, even in our community. :(

amx
07-03-2011, 07:37 AM
I know it's absolutely no consolation and preaching to the choir for you, OP, but for everyone else, PLEASE don't carry liability only. As bad as your financial situation feels, it will be so much worse if something like this happens to you and you aren't covered. I've seen this time and again, even in our community. :(

A-freaking-men. Use these photos as a cautionary tale if you have to. In three months, I've had my back glass blown out and my car catch fire. My brother has now lost two vehicles in two years with nothing to show for either. After this, you can sure as hell bet that I'm carrying comp on ALL of my cars from now on.

93cc
07-05-2011, 04:39 AM
^+1

I have always carried full cover on every car paid for or not.

93cc
07-05-2011, 04:40 AM
^+1...

I have always carried full cover on every car paid for or not.

Maruki-kun
07-05-2011, 05:14 AM
Liability only: $350/month for me
Full coverage: $1245/month for me


guess which I use?



WTB: Toasty all-trac Black preferred.







sorry, had to. it's still worth more then the wife's car.

UtahSleeper
07-05-2011, 04:14 PM
I do liability on my DD. If I am that concerned with "if something happens" I will start putting money away. With how much you get ripped off by insurance and then having to deal with them if something happens, I would rather keep my cash and if something happens go and replace the car within a day.

Lonestag
07-05-2011, 10:38 PM
Man that sucks, freakin weird for a car to just burst into flames at 3:00 am too.

grimmythereaper
07-05-2011, 10:45 PM
i vote rebuild

UtahSleeper
07-05-2011, 10:53 PM
+1

Or buy it back from insurance (if cheap enough) and give someone else the option to if there is interest.

T-spoon
07-06-2011, 12:45 AM
Liability only: $350/month for me
Full coverage: $1245/month for me


guess which I use?



WTB: Toasty all-trac Black preferred.







sorry, had to. it's still worth more then the wife's car.

I can't imagine why it would cost you so much unless you're driving a Mclaren F1 or something, or you have a really bad driving history.. Even before I was 21 my 6g was "only" $244.00/month full coverage.

It's still not wise financially to carry liability only for almost everyone in almost every situation, however you want to rationalize it. I hope people are lucky and don't ever need it, but I've needed it, and seen lots of people screwed by not having it.

Facime
07-06-2011, 02:09 AM
in over 30 years of driving, Ive never once needed comp or collision.

I understand what you are saying, but imho insurance is SUCH a rip off and companies are so corrupt and never pay what your car is actually worth. If the car in question is over 10 years old, you would be better off simply putting the amount difference in a savings account of your own choosing. At least that way you get something in the end whether your car is totalled or not.

T-spoon
07-06-2011, 02:39 AM
in over 30 years of driving, Ive never once needed comp or collision.

I understand what you are saying, but imho insurance is SUCH a rip off and companies are so corrupt and never pay what your car is actually worth. If the car in question is over 10 years old, you would be better off simply putting the amount difference in a savings account of your own choosing. At least that way you get something in the end whether your car is totalled or not.

Even though that's all completely anecdotal (I've needed comp&collision several times in my 15ish years of driving, unlucky me), it's not worth arguing about. Everyone can do what they want to do. I probably like insurance companies less than you do BECAUSE I've been unlucky and needed them. In any event, it sucks that the alltrac burned up, I didn't intend to derail the thread.

grimmythereaper
07-06-2011, 07:58 AM
Or buy it back from insurance (if cheap enough) and give someone else the option to if there is interest.


if i have the money by that times rolls around, ill do it. I dont wanna see an all trac in the junkyard :(

amx
07-07-2011, 08:14 AM
It ain't going in the junkyard. Not if I have anything to say about it, anyway. :)

Insurance is already putting up a fight, and since they will probably take their own sweet time about it, I've got plenty of time to decide what my options are. Right now I'm just trying to get things cleaned up and figure out what's salvageable and what isn't.

Took a few more pics, too. Here's the motor before I started pulling stuff off of it. Basically everything rubber or plastic got thoroughly toasted:

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/3/2/3/engine1.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19849)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/3/2/3/engine2.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19850)

After a little bit of cleanup:

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/3/2/3/engine4.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19851)

I didn't get any photos of when I pulled the cooked wheel off, but my suspension on the left side consists of a bare shock and a spring that's now about 4" tall. :blink: The poor Celi has a very obvious list, but at least it's sitting on four wheels again.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/3/2/3/engine3.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19852)

Interior looks ugly, but aside from the dash, I think most of it can be cleaned up.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/3/2/3/interior1.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19853)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/3/2/3/interior3.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19855)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/3/2/3/interior2.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19854)

Other good stuff:
-transmission still shifts
-turbo is in great shape. Doesn't even have any shaft play...sigh
-oil dipstick reads half full, which gives me hope for the stuff on the bottom end
-the frame, bumper assembly, and all of the structural metal still looks straight. It isn't warped or melted, which seems promising, but I'll be the first to admit I've never had to deal with heat-damaged metal before. No idea where to start with regard to testing it. Anyone....?

temperacerguy
07-07-2011, 11:10 AM
Sorry to say, but based off of the discoloration of that front left, it's been toasted pretty bad. That whole area is compromised and I would not trust it. Sheet metal doesn't have to bend/warp for it to be weakened. That car is toast. my suggestion is to buy back the salvage from the insurance company (they will probably charge you 400-800 for it, then part it out. I already know someone who will buy the rear plastics from you.

lamont
07-07-2011, 01:40 PM
:sadcry::sadcry: Sorry for your loss, don't scrap/sell it rebuild it. If you decide to sell it put me first in line to buy it. Check my project thread, it won't be as hard as what I had to do to bring my car back from the previous owners fire damage. I've been there and have heard all these negatives before, you can do it, but if you don't feel up to it I'll be more than happy to save another trac from the scrapyard:twocents:

93celicaconv
07-07-2011, 01:50 PM
Sorry to say, but based off of the discoloration of that front left, it's been toasted pretty bad. That whole area is compromised and I would not trust it. Sheet metal doesn't have to bend/warp for it to be weakened. That car is toast. my suggestion is to buy back the salvage from the insurance company (they will probably charge you 400-800 for it, then part it out. I already know someone who will buy the rear plastics from you.

I agree with Temperacerguy. The steel in that front clip got pretty hot and is probably tempered now (meaning it is crack easily under stresses that cause minor deflection). From the looks of the pictures, I would say to focus on getting a replacement front clip if you want to salvage the car. It looks like most of the damage would be contained within the front clip area. Plus you will get all the thousands of small parts you need that are gone in your fire loss. Where you would get a front clip for that model now, that will prove challenging.

Hookecho
07-07-2011, 02:20 PM
Spend your money on something else. You could find another Trac or something else for the cost of repairing that one.

grimmythereaper
07-07-2011, 05:07 PM
i agree with lamont there is a reason y he called his project phoenix :)

UtahSleeper
07-07-2011, 05:38 PM
i agree with lamont there is a reason y he called his project phoenix :)

Ditto. As many people have said before, it's hard to find a trac in good shape and reasonably priced/hasn't been abused. I would say take on the challenge if your up for it. If not do what you feel, but I think you should atleast give it a chance to run again :)

Facime
07-07-2011, 07:24 PM
no way would I attempt to bring that back. I understand the emotional response, but its simply not economically feasable. Considering the amount of work and parts required to simply bring a possibly unsafe car back from that only to have a salvage title in the end anyway...there just really isnt any point.

UtahSleeper
07-07-2011, 08:23 PM
Its not always about the economical side. Hobbies are rarely about money, IMO. My cars will never get back the time and money I put into them, but I enjoy doing it and knowing that I made/rebuilt/revived this.

People rebuild cars all the time. You do it just cause you want that car. You see it with cars from the 40's, 50's etc. I don't believe the trac's are any different. They are rare and not all car people understand someone else's fascination with them.

Lamont, do you have a ball park of your total expense bringing your victim back? Not including all the troubleshooting.

lamont
07-07-2011, 09:19 PM
I would say I was lucky in finding most of my parts from cars being parted out on alltrac.net and at the time there was a rolled Alltrac in a Pittsburgh salvage yard that I got tons of stuff from cheap. I also got a pretty good deal on a 90 GT-S that shares most of the same parts with the Alltrac. Ballpark figure with the JDM engine roughly $2000. I still need paint and bodywork though.

grimmythereaper
07-07-2011, 10:05 PM
Ballpark figure with the JDM engine roughly $2000. I still need paint and bodywork though.

thats cheaper then most engine swaps, plus with the community that we have here im sure we can help provide most of what is need for a rebuild :)

Facime
07-08-2011, 03:40 AM
Its not always about the economical side. Hobbies are rarely about money, IMO. My cars will never get back the time and money I put into them, but I enjoy doing it and knowing that I made/rebuilt/revived this.

People rebuild cars all the time. You do it just cause you want that car. You see it with cars from the 40's, 50's etc. I don't believe the trac's are any different. They are rare and not all car people understand someone else's fascination with them.

My point was that you still have a fire salvaged car with a title that reflects that. Even hobbiest restorers know to stay away from those cars when looking for a buildable car. Also, japanese cars will NEVER have the same status in the world of restorations as a 40's or 50's car, and despite the sense you make about it being a "hobby" and not about the money, unless the OP is independantly wealthy and just has a bunch of money to throw around, advising him to throw caution to the wind and bring THAT car back is irresponsible. That is however, of course, coming from someone that makes his living from this hobby.

Listen, like I said, I appreciate the emotional attachment to the car and the model, but that really is not a good enough excuse to be foolish. just my opinion.


to the OP: In the end its your car, your time, your money, I sure hope you find a way to work it out as it truely is unfortunate.

underscore
07-08-2011, 06:46 AM
Ouch that is brutal! That poor car! I hope it can be saved, I hate seeing these cars get parted or scrapped.

amx
07-09-2011, 07:56 AM
I appreciate what you're saying Facime. You're coming at this from the angle of experience, and I really respect your opinion. But if you'll bear with me, I'm going to be young, foolish and idealistic for a minute :)

The thing is, I don't buy cars because they're a good investment (hell, I own an AMC, that in itself should speak volumes). One day, my Javelin _may_ be worth 10 grand. It'd cost easily twice that to get her into that kind of condition. I don't care because I don't ever plan on selling her. But on that side of the hobby I see fixable cars getting written off all the time because someone didn't think it was economically feasible to repair them. It didn't have a Big 3 badge on it, so it's not worth anything, etc etc. Hearing things like that just makes me want that much more to save them.

That said, I'm not foolhardy enough to want to fix up a truly unsafe vehicle, regardless of how emotionally attached I may be to it. Right now the structural condition of the metal is my biggest concern, so I'm going to look around and see if I can find someone or someplace to get up close and take a look at the metal. There's no reason not to. If it turns out to be unsound, then yeah, I'll accept that the car's toast. But if (I know, it's a big if) the structure is fine, what then? I can't in good conscience part out or scrap a saveable car, especially one that's this rare. Production numbers aside, it's a 2-owner car, with (for what it's worth now) barely 120k miles on it. I have its entire history in a giant folder of papers in a drawer, including the original window sticker.

Honestly, I fully expect that it's gone and I'm going to have to come to grips with that. But I'm going to try my hardest to at least give it a chance first.

jwagner162
08-01-2011, 05:15 PM
JEBUZ!

-Update?

amx
08-05-2011, 06:54 AM
Not much to update yet, really. Still waiting to hear from insurance, so everything's kind of in limbo at the moment. I've mostly been pulling the dash and trying to clean up the interior in my spare time. Soot is a total bear, by the way. It gets everywhere and takes forever to clean out.

Some possibly good news though, I did get an acquaintance who's a mechanical engineer specializing in hvac to come take a look at it, and he was pretty confident that the frame is okay. I also talked to a local restoration shop who said they could restore it for a very rough estimate of 10 - 15 grand. :laugh:

grimmythereaper
08-09-2011, 12:17 AM
good luck man ill keep my fingers crossed :)

klapa
08-09-2011, 02:19 AM
Sorry to say, but based off of the discoloration of that front left, it's been toasted pretty bad. That whole area is compromised and I would not trust it. Sheet metal doesn't have to bend/warp for it to be weakened. That car is toast. my suggestion is to buy back the salvage from the insurance company (they will probably charge you 400-800 for it, then part it out. I already know someone who will buy the rear plastics from you.

Hey man - I already called dibs via PM!

Not to be a buzzard or anything......

klapa
08-09-2011, 02:21 AM
I would NEVER buy full coverage insurance on any car over 10 YO unless it were from some "specialty" type insurance company.

If it is any of the conventional insurance companies - any car 20 years old ain't worth squat.

mikecole89
08-17-2011, 01:51 AM
damn that sucks!!

klapa
08-18-2011, 01:53 AM
damn that sucks!!

So - you got your post count now.

UtahSleeper
08-18-2011, 03:06 AM
Almost 2 years to hit it too.

So, any pics of the clean up? And close up's of the fire damage?

amx
08-20-2011, 08:26 AM
Sure, epic post coming if you'll bear with my crappy photog skillz. :p I haven't made nearly as much headway as I'd like. Been kind of inundated with project deadlines at work and haven't been able to get time off to work on it... one of the downsides of being employed in the software industry I guess.

Anywho, first order of business was to pull what was left of the windshield, because it looked like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/img010_1000x750.jpg

Closeup of the wheel, this is where the fire started. :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/img017_1000x750.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/suspension.jpg

I have to own up to a pretty ghetto fix here. Obviously everything inside the wheelwell got cooked, so there was barely enough shock assembly left to keep the left side of the car off the ground. So I went to the junkyard, wasn't able to get the driver's side strut off the one 5th gen that was there, and ended up pulling the passenger side off a 4th gen GT. Since I have no brake lines left I wasn't worried about the bracket being on the wrong side. Anyway, it bolted right in, and the car's actually sitting level now.

This'd be why they warn you not to expose the strut to open flame :laugh:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/spring.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/slightlymelty.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/leftside.jpg

Sort of closeup metal shots. Battery tray and crash bar...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/batterytray.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/bumper.jpg

Starting interior cleanup..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/driveway.jpg

I'm running out of places to store all the pieces I'm pulling off, so most of it is just getting bagged up and left in the car. These suspicious-looking bodybags actually contain most of the back plastics :unsure:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/bodybags.jpg

Wish I'd taken a photo of what this seat looked like at first; it's actually going to clean up really nicely. This is just after going over it a couple times with a pet hair removal sponge, I still need to get some decent leather cleaner on it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/seats.jpg

The dash is the ugliest bit, in my mind. I finally got the dashpad off yesterday, and it had to come off in pieces. Everything behind the steering wheel was a solid lump of plastic.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/console-closeup.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/console-closeup2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/dash_pulled.jpg

This unrecognisable mess was the driver's side kickpanel.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/kickpanel.jpg

This, more than any of the other stuff was what really drove the damage home. I spend so much time in front of the gauge cluster that in some ways it's the most familiar part of the car to me. I've been trying to stay positive throughout all this, but I have to admit that seeing this was really hard to take.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/gauges.jpg

There's probably half a Celica here, time to go to the dump...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/junkpile.jpg

To end on a lighter note, my brother was cleaning out the merc before the tow truck came for it, and found this in his glovebox:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/raverpincushion/All-Trac%20fire%20cleanup/img034_1000x750.jpg

:lmao:

grimmythereaper
08-20-2011, 04:44 PM
^ epic,lol

klapa
08-20-2011, 06:14 PM
Good luck on the rebuild.

The offer still stands - parting the thing out would give you a kick start to a new car - there are some parts there that could benefit others.... and yourself too.

Though I do understand - perhaps the insurance company owns it all now?

allTRACway
08-20-2011, 11:55 PM
good luck on the rebuild hope it all turns out good for you

DudeMan
08-21-2011, 04:31 AM
Shit, I thought I was crazy for trying to fix my Celi.. Props dude. :)

You should start a project thread.

gt4tified
09-03-2011, 01:50 PM
Sorry for your loss.

93cc
09-04-2011, 01:00 AM
if you need any help with anything let me know

amx
09-25-2011, 04:50 AM
if you need any help with anything let me know

thanks, Don. Might have to take you up on that at some point. :)

Anyway, I'm updating my old-ass thread here because I finally(!) have a settlement. It took almost three months, and a lot of back and forth with the claims adjuster, but the insurance part of things is finally over. Went and got the salvage title today.

I really hope that no one else has to deal with this, because having to total an All-Trac really sucks. But in the case that you do, the best advice I can give is just keep hounding them. Provide as much documentation as you can, and call them out when they try to tell you your car is the same as a base Celica. I had to correct their documents multiple times, first when the appraiser said my car had an auto trans, and then when they kept trying to evaluate my All-Trac against GTs and STs as their market comparables. My claims rep even tried to tell me that the reason my car is rare is because it was unpopular, and if it had sold well, Toyota would have made more. Um, what. (It was at that point that I started lecturing her on WRC homologation requirements, and I'm sure the only reason I got a settlement at all was because they were sick of listening to me) Long story short, I agreed to take NADA value, and they cut me a check for cash value + loss of use, which worked out to just under six grand.

Of course, I'd rather have my car back the way it was, but I bought it for $3900 and put about 2k into it, so I pretty much broke even. I'm happy.

So the plan for now is to find a place to store it over the winter. I graduate this spring, and once that happens I should be able to start fixing it up in earnest.

T-spoon
09-25-2011, 06:09 AM
No surprise about insurance, unfortunately, but glad you persisted and got what you could. I switched insurance recently and decided to cover the supra for $6k additional for the extra parts/work put into it. I didn't realize how little that extra coverage costs, to me it seems worth it, especially for these cars that are so hard to get replacements for (and parts).

Thaifight-R
10-03-2011, 01:59 AM
Ouch...
Glad things worked out for you though. :)

Kinda reminds me of Rusty Slammington.
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9j4asDyxw1qzg3k3o1_500.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5223/5610054005_2c64dee659_z.jpg
http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18095

Hookecho
10-03-2011, 02:51 AM
6k...buys another Alltrac.

jaydog82
10-03-2011, 03:20 AM
Wow, fire damage sucks