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celica9303
06-29-2011, 05:24 PM
Its been a while since I've had to buy any( years) I've used turtle wax to meguiars. What do you guys prefer??

Luni
06-29-2011, 06:18 PM
Meguiars Gold Class I think is what Baby Bear uses. Since thats what he uses, thats what I use cause I only really ever wash my car at his house LOL.

Captain uses something different and it seems to work well too. Captain, get your ass in here and share some old man knowledge!

ChrisD
06-29-2011, 06:32 PM
This and only this: http://www.eshine.ca/optimum_no_rinse_wash__shine_32oz-1609.php?cat=9

It is seriously awesome. A cap full of it with water does the whole car. And it smells nice.

celica9303
06-29-2011, 07:35 PM
Hmmm ill look into that optimum stuff chris! Wonder if its availble otc...

Thanks Luni I've also heard good things about the gold class.

Captian! Help a brother out!!!

Galcobar
06-29-2011, 09:16 PM
Depends in part on what your water is like -- better usually to use a detergent than a soap in hard water situations -- and what you use as a protectant. Some washes are more suited to polymer, others to acrylic, others to carnauba. Gold Class is designed to work well with both carnauba and polymer, since Gold Class Wax is actually a blend of the two.

If you just want a wash-and-wax, I'd look at the new Meguiar's Ultimate Wash and Wax. The polymer protectant in it is about the same as their Ultimate Wax and that does very well in both longevity and clarity.

celica9303
06-29-2011, 10:16 PM
I'm preety sure I have hard water at the house. I was actually looking at the ultimate wash & wax last night at the store, but its $8 a bottle( I think 48 or 56oz) which seemed like a lot for car soap. But knowing meguairs its good stuff. Last soap I had was the nxt soap, I got it like 3seasons ago. What about zmoyl? Black magic?

BabyBear
06-29-2011, 10:33 PM
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+washing/car+cleaners/car+wash%2C+16+ounces.do

Thats what Cappy uses. When my current soap runs out thats what I'm going to use. Only reason I haven't used it yet is I still haven't finished off my Gold Classic soap yet.

celica9303
06-30-2011, 01:02 AM
What about the turtle wax ice? Or the zip wax. Its been years since I've used a turtle wax product. Or eagle one?

CriScO
06-30-2011, 01:25 AM
I just used the cheap Meguiar's, the Deep Crystal, on the hatchback and it worked well. :dunno:

Facime
06-30-2011, 02:13 AM
Meg's Deep Crystal here as well.

Galcobar
06-30-2011, 02:49 AM
For just soap, Deep Crystal does a fine job.

The point of the Ultimate Wash-and-Wax is that it avoids you having to wax your car -- paying for the convenience, and not having to buy the protectant. A bottle of Ultimate Wax can run $20 (well, not sure about U.S. prices).

celica9303
06-30-2011, 03:34 AM
For just soap, Deep Crystal does a fine job.

The point of the Ultimate Wash-and-Wax is that it avoids you having to wax your car -- paying for the convenience, and not having to buy the protectant. A bottle of Ultimate Wax can run $20 (well, not sure about U.S. prices).

I wax (well used to wax) it with a good paste wax every other weeks...up untill my paint completly went to shit. So now I use the wax as you dry.
Idk ill see what is better priced and just pick one I suppose and worry about "good" soap after it gets painted.

Facime
06-30-2011, 04:03 AM
I wax (well used to wax) it with a good paste wax every other weeks...up untill my paint completly went to shit.

Thats far too often to wax. 2-3 times a year with a good wax is often enough.

celica9303
06-30-2011, 04:47 AM
Good to know

Galcobar
06-30-2011, 06:21 AM
Heh, don't let the fanatics hear you say once a week is too often.

Though I'm sure the argument over doing a full wax job versus topping up the LSP versus redoing the topper (it's fairly common for people to use a synthetic sealant for longevity and top it with carnauba for looks) would be long, interesting, and ultimately a matter of personal preference.

Facime
06-30-2011, 06:43 AM
well its not so much about it being too often rather its just more often than required if you use quality products and dont use a wash that that takes it off too fast.

With a really good detail prior to sealing, I can wash with straight water and get my cars clean, no detergent required at all.

NgoFcukinWay
07-18-2011, 07:05 AM
I use this as my go-to wash when it's time to get to business.

http://www.detailedimage.com/Chemical-Guys-M31/Citrus-Wash-P410/128-oz-S2/

Other than that, my week to week (or bi-weekly) washes will use this:

http://www.detailedimage.com/Chemical-Guys-M31/Citrus-Wash-and-Clear-P221/128-oz-S2/

or the general NXT wash you can get in the store.

wax/sealants that I use:

weekly (bi-weekly) wax/sealant: http://www.detailedimage.com/Meguiars-M43/NXT-Tech-Wax-20-P383/18-oz-S1/
(from my understanding, the NXT Tech-wax is more of a sealant than it is a wax)

Monthly sealant: http://www.detailedimage.com/Chemical-Guys-M31/Jet-Seal-109-P184/16-oz-S1/

Business wax: http://www.detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Rainforest-Rub-Soft-Wax-P234/30-ml-S2/ (Soft wax makes it enjoyable to apply with bare hands)

My cereal fo'realio wax: http://www.detailedimage.com/Dodo-Juice-M35/Supernatural-Wax-P249/250-ml-S1/ (have yet to really use this one just yet though)

That's just some stuff I have sitting on my shelf.

Galcobar
07-18-2011, 12:23 PM
A wax is a type of sealant. More specifically, a carnauba wax is an organic sealant. Polymer or acrylic last-step products are synthetic sealants. NXT is a polymer product, so it's not a wax, but it serves the same purpose.

The Captain
07-18-2011, 01:40 PM
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+washing/car+cleaners/car+wash%2C+16+ounces.do

Thats what Cappy uses. When my current soap runs out thats what I'm going to use. Only reason I haven't used it yet is I still haven't finished off my Gold Classic soap yet.

The best. That is all.

jaydog82
07-18-2011, 04:58 PM
iv been using Meguiar's Ultimate Wash and Wax and i like it a lot. the best wax procedure that iv done is
1. wash and dry car.
2. use a polish.
3. use a carnnuba wax.
4. use a synthetic or polymer based wax.

works wonders on dark paint.

Siyx
07-18-2011, 10:18 PM
I just use the Turtle Wax ICE products. Car Wash, Interior Cleaner, Polish Paste Wax, and Tire Shine Cleaner. Seem to do a nice job. Brings out a great deep shine on the burgandy color.

celica9303
07-19-2011, 02:17 AM
I just use the Turtle Wax ICE products. Car Wash, Interior Cleaner, Polish Paste Wax, and Tire Shine Cleaner. Seem to do a nice job. Brings out a great deep shine on the burgandy color.

I ended up going with the ICE. So far I like it....well see after afew more washes if I still do.

The Captain
07-19-2011, 03:03 PM
ICE doesn't last long.

"wax a chump like a candle"

celica9303
07-19-2011, 09:30 PM
ICE doesn't last long.

"wax a chump like a candle"



Yeah but it will do for now.once I get new paint on the vert ill get better soap+ I still have to get my door fixed and get new sideskirt to replace the damged one

Terracar
07-20-2011, 04:21 AM
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+washing/car+cleaners/car+wash%2C+16+ounces.do

Thats what Cappy uses. When my current soap runs out thats what I'm going to use. Only reason I haven't used it yet is I still haven't finished off my Gold Classic soap yet.

I use this stuff since I won a griots car care bag chock full of chit at Toyota Syndicate's car show in honor of the latest TC. After using the griots on the wifes car, I have to say I am impressed. The car sits out and gets a metric F-ton of road grime and tree sap on it (parked under a tree 99% of its life) and the griots washes it off with ease. The car looks pretty damn good too, but for an '08 that itsn't too hard. Oh and that stuff lasts a long ass time. I have the little bottle and I have washed my cars (3 of them) about 5 times each and still have about half of the bottle left.

-Terracar

Galcobar
07-20-2011, 09:34 AM
I've heard good things about it elsewhere -- but borders strike again.

pintoBC_3sgte
07-21-2011, 02:08 AM
I've heard good things about it elsewhere -- but borders strike again.

if you want to try it, .81 cents more then the site listed before but ships from ontario
http://www.eshine.ca/griots_garage_car_wash_16oz-4115.php