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UberToyotaX
04-27-2005, 02:47 AM
first off id like to say whats up? im new, gotta 00' celica gt-s. now my question...

i want to make my car AWD. its definately unique and im not aware of anyone thats done it yet. if you do know of someone, lemme know, id like to talk to them. i was looking to use the needed parts from the 93' alltrac. i checked the dimensions of the 93 compared to the 00 and they are within an inch. i know this is probably going to take some custom work. if you guys have any ideas, suggestions, people who could help me out. that would be greatly appreciated. thanks

AllOutRed90
04-27-2005, 02:58 AM
im sure it could happen....

Gary
04-27-2005, 04:19 AM
714-426-5500
Call them.
They are in Tustin, CA
They have the AWD 7th gen Celica with 3sgte. :hehe:

Colossus20v
04-27-2005, 01:41 PM
Gary do you know if there is a web page about it somewhere. I remember reading about the 3sgte but not the AWD part.

Welcome UbertoyotaX!

Mike431635
04-27-2005, 05:37 PM
It would probably involve modifying a 5th gen frame to fit a 7th gen body on it. That's how I'm sure the above guys did it. I'm pretty sure that's how the "Ultimate Celica" concept was done, and that was a 500HP 3SGTE with AWD.

Luis C
04-27-2005, 06:19 PM
714-426-5500
Call them.
They are in Tustin, CA
They have the AWD 7th gen Celica with 3sgte. :hehe:

Ask for Rod Millen, tell him the guys over at the Celicatech forum recommended him. :D

Gary
04-27-2005, 07:13 PM
:D Yup. That's the number of MillenWorks
Let see, Jamasco put 3sgte in the ZZT and claim that roughly costs $10k.
How much do you guys think it will cost to do AWD conversion on ZZT?
It'd be awesome if you can pull that.

Punisher
04-28-2005, 05:43 PM
Um.. I think it would cost slightly above... A LOT!

Good luck :)

As for Millenworks.. I saw them on Rides on TLC a few times.. those guys are fuckin completely awesome! If anyone can do a celica jobbie like that it would be Millen that's for sure.

UberToyotaX
04-29-2005, 02:50 AM
estimated cost. we looked at the layout of the undercarriage of the celica and figured out it would be extremely hard to do it with stock frame sooo, that means custom frame. i need a a 3sgte to swap from rougly 7 grand for everything if i can find an engine and then the other parts. 4 grand for a custom frame (i know a guy) and 2 grand of miscellaneous (suck at spelling) costs.
$13,000 is mucho dinero, im not sure where im goin next cuz i have to figure out if i got that kind of funds.

Mike431635
04-29-2005, 08:00 AM
You spelled miscellaneous correctly. That's a lot of cash to put into a project unless you have a substantial income (don't get me wrong, I will do insane stuff too but only when I'm making the kind of income I plan to be making). If you go through with it make sure to take lots of pics and vid of the thing going together.

cms-gt4
05-02-2005, 08:20 PM
It cost about 200k-300k to build the "Ultimate Celica." I have the article on it at home somewhere. http://www.rodmillen.com/UCelica.htm

DanTheMan
05-02-2005, 10:26 PM
castrol tom's supra used the 3sgte, so i guess i can believe they got 500hp out of that engine.....now all it needs is low end torque....i love big engines. SBC 4 life!

GT4SOM
05-03-2005, 01:46 AM
Do you think the awd matrix platform will work? After all those matrixs do use the same series motors in the 7th gens no? I think the dimensions would probably be more friend for a 7th gen rather then a 185's structure. Welcome aboard.

DanTheMan
05-03-2005, 01:55 AM
well the matrix is actually based off of the corolla platform (thats why sometimes u might hear it called Corolla Matrix) but about the dimensions...maybe... my mom has a corolla if u need me to get out there with a tape measure i will

lol

KoreanJoey
05-05-2005, 07:48 PM
castrol tom's supra used the 3sgte, so i guess i can believe they got 500hp out of that engine.....now all it needs is low end torque....i love big engines. SBC 4 life!

It's not really a 3SGTE... although it is very close... it is a specialty race engine good luck buying one of those though.

Snafu
05-05-2005, 07:52 PM
I wouldn't do it. To me, it's pointless for the work. If you're going to spend that much money, and that much time, why settle for a 250 hp awd celica? just buy an EVO.

Mike431635
05-06-2005, 02:48 AM
I wouldn't do it. To me, it's pointless for the work. If you're going to spend that much money, and that much time, why settle for a 250 hp awd celica? just buy an EVO.

Because it's rare. And when money isn't an option why would you care about spending "too much"?

cms-gt4
05-06-2005, 08:00 PM
If I was to attempt an awd 7th gen here is how I would go about it.

Get the floor pan from a matrix and weld it in. I read that the dimensions of the 7th gen is the same as the corolla/Caldina. Another option is get the floor pan from the awd corolla in Japan. The caldina gtfour uses much of what the 205 had, so you would have to deal with less fabricating of suspension mounts and such. Get a Caldina gas tank, then get yourself a 205 clip, driveshaft and read end then get to work.
Still going to be an expensive project.

DanTheMan
05-08-2005, 02:57 AM
I wouldn't do it. To me, it's pointless for the work. If you're going to spend that much money, and that much time, why settle for a 250 hp awd celica? just buy an EVO.

who wants a 4 door ulgy car that doesnt look sleek like the celica....and who wants to spend 30k on one of those?