View Full Version : Which BGB?

04-03-2011, 03:51 AM
Going with 3rd gen 3SGE swap in my Celi.

Which BGB is used for this engine?

04-03-2011, 04:28 AM
To be honest, I dont know if we even have that one.

I dont think we do. Send a PM to Koreanjoey he has a Gen3 NA swap, he might have some documentation/manuals/diagrams you might find useful

04-03-2011, 04:46 AM
The Haynes manual I got from Autozone covers the 3sge.

04-05-2011, 04:43 PM
Bruce, the haynes manual available in the US won't cover Euro/JDM 3SGEs that didn't make it Stateside. Just so this becomes public knowledge, the necessary manuals are RM380E, RM396E, RM398E, and RM399E.

04-05-2011, 06:36 PM
Isnt it just a US 3sge, minus EGR and plus a tuned ECU.

04-05-2011, 07:30 PM

04-05-2011, 07:32 PM
Isnt it just a US 3sge, minus EGR and plus a tuned ECU.

No....totally different. That would be like saying the 3rd Gen 3SGTE is basically the same as a 1st Gen 3SGTE, but with a different turbo or and a more aggressive fuel curve.

From a horsepower standpoint the USDM 3SGE was rated at 135HP while the 3rd Gen was rated between 175-180. Then there's the 4th Gen which, depending on if its a redtop or a black top, yields either 200HP or 210 HP. EGR and ECU only add up to so much in an increase of HP. The rest is more complicated.