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gen5
04-25-2005, 12:01 AM
Washed the car earlier and I've somewhat neglected it lately so I had my work cut out for me. I was having trouble with the rearend where there was a lot of exhaust crap buildup. I normally use Black Magic car wash soap, works well, but a lot of this crap wouldn't come off. So I decided to grab my bottle of Purple Power that I use on my wheels and gave it a try on the bumper. Guess what? The grime ran off like a scalded dog! So I washed and rinsed the bumper real good, dried it and waited about half an hour while I downed some Coronas to see if anyhting happened. It looked great so I proceeded to wash the whole car with my bucket of soapy water and a squirt of Purple Power every so often. It was the easiest wash I've ever done. That was about 2 hours ago and no signs of damage thus far. I'll let you know again in a few days if something goes bad, but as for now, Purple Power is my new car wash of choice!

Mike431635
04-25-2005, 12:21 AM
It does strip all the wax off though, so make sure you rinse thoroughly and wax your car.

gen5
04-25-2005, 12:46 AM
Oh, I hadn't noticed that yet. Thanks! I will never own another white car. When I was shopping around for a Celica I really didn't want anything that needed body work. When I found this one I wasn't too hot on the white but I do think these cars look good in it. The reason I ended up getting it is because the paint job was less than a month old and it had been done at the Toyota dealership by the owners brother. It is about a year and 4 months old now. Anyway, what I'm getting at is I guess I hadn't noticed the wax missing since the paint is so new and shiney. Thanks again for the tip!

blck87gtconv
04-25-2005, 01:33 AM
I woudln't take that shit anywhere near my paint.

You didn't think to use a claybar?

gen5
04-25-2005, 02:05 AM
Don't have one. I was mainly trying to get rid of the exhaust/soot spots, nothing with texture you could feel. i don't know much about wash and wax. I enjoyed your write up for the guy about waxing. Tell me ore about claybars and wax blocking.

MoralWarfare
04-25-2005, 03:10 AM
ugh that stuff should NEVER be near your paint. If i get some on my paint when i'm doing my wheels I immediately wash it off. I would suggest using goo gone or a clay bar to get that crap off your bumper.

Clay bars basically strip all the wax and crud and excess off your car. it seals all the crud in itself, and you work the bar to a side without stuff ground in it. The bars do a GREAT job at establishing a clean base to start waxing from.

blck87gtconv
04-25-2005, 03:33 AM
The purpose of the clay bar is to remove embedded contaminants from teh paint.. which leaves the paint bare-ass naked. So a layer of wax is absolutely necessary after use.

85gtsblackman
04-25-2005, 07:18 AM
i use that stuff to clean my engine when i cant get simple green

blck87gtconv
04-25-2005, 08:11 PM
i use that stuff to clean my engine when i cant get simple green
Neither is good. Citrus cleaners have a corosive affect on aluminum.. guess what your head is made of.

MoralWarfare
04-26-2005, 03:42 AM
simple green is not a citrus cleaning product.

blck87gtconv
04-26-2005, 05:38 AM
Yes it is.

kainroh13psi
04-26-2005, 06:17 PM
thats how u clean metal though? by taking some off then polishing it so it wont happen again. if u jsut use a citrus cleaner on it looks great.. for a day or to then it oxidizes again. but if u seel it after with a silicon based product ur all set.

and about using rim cleaner on paint. i bet the long term effect are bad it says on the bottle to not get on paint. also cleaning your car with hot water helps alot.
leave the bucket in the sun for a while then put ur soap in.

Galcobar
04-26-2005, 07:14 PM
Rim cleaners, for the most part, are acidic. Acid is bad for your paint. It is also bad for painted or clear-coated wheels.

Polishing does not protect metal. Properly, it only removes the oxidized particles and not the unoxidized metal -- albeit this does mean you lose some metal overall. A good metal polish product does contain some protectants, but not necessarily.

Citric acid eats aluminum. That's not cleaning, that's damaging. It's the equivalent of cleaning your table with sandpaper. It may get rid of the dirt, but it doesn't stop there. However, a quick exposure to a citric cleaner does far less to the block than a quick exposure to a petroleum-based cleaner does to your hoses and plastics. Besides which, a citrus-based cleaner does not affect oxidized aluminum, which is actually harder than the bare metal. So if you insist on polishing the aluminum in your engine, do it after you degrease/clean it.

MoralWarfare
04-26-2005, 11:55 PM
Jason, no it isn't. I just contacted Simple Green and they told me that it is water based, and has nothing contained in the formula that would deem it a citrus-based or citrus cleaner.

carlosfandango
04-27-2005, 03:12 AM
hmmm, I'm Director of Operations and Finance and 50% shareholder for 6 figure Professional Commercial Cleaning Company with 36 employees.

I may perhaps be able to suggest some useful information.

Wheel cleaners often have approxiamtely 9% Hydrochloric Acid and quickly breaks down brake dust, it casn damage laquered surfaces but not if it is rinsed away properly. Unless its the stuff I provide to unblock drainage systems, but I doubt it as it burns your skin quickly.

Citrus cleaners do not harm your wheels, they do however break down mineral, vegetable and animal oils, hence are used to clean engines. Citrus cleaners are harmless on aloys.

Oh, they are used to clean Marine Bilge Tanks and Slaughter Houses, and to clean after removal of dead bodies from furnished properties.

Citric acid, hmm, i used a lot of that during the UK foot and mouth epidemic - it rots steel, lots of farmers trucks will be rusted up by now.

....

well, hasnt this forum brightened up...

gen5
04-27-2005, 10:09 AM
I always fill my bucket up inside in the tub with warm water a few times during wash. I was very liberal with the water this last time and very conservative with the purple power. I also washed the car again with soapy water after the pruple wash. Should be fine .

carlosfandango
04-27-2005, 10:25 PM
gen 5 - I dont know what purple power is? what is the active content?

blck87gtconv
04-28-2005, 05:09 AM
I always fill my bucket up inside in the tub with warm water a few times during wash. I was very liberal with the water this last time and very conservative with the purple power. I also washed the car again with soapy water after the pruple wash. Should be fine .
what kind of "soap" was used in this "soapy water"?

Mike431635
04-28-2005, 06:17 AM
Now that I re-read this, I can definitely tell you NOT to use purple power on your paint again. When I had the engine out of my car I used to to clean the engine bay before painting. After using it without diluting it for about 5 minutes, both my hands were stinging and so were my arms where it had dripped down my arms. It's DEFINITELY acidic, and I wouldn't get it on my paint if I were you.

Use a good car wash solution (I use Meguiars NXT) and clay bar. As previously mentioned, Goo Gone is good to use. If it's really tough, Napa sells some stuff in a little aerosol can called "Blue Max" or something similar to that. That's what I used to get off a thick coating of oil from the entire passenger side of my car after fixing a severe oil leak. I lost about 2 qts of oil without cleaning the car, so you can only imagine what thats like. The stuff cleans it right off and is completely safe for your paint. You just have to wash and wax afterward.

gen5
04-28-2005, 09:56 AM
what kind of "soap" was used in this "soapy water"?
Some Black Magic junk I picked up for real cheap one day. It works okay, but it smells great though!

gen5
04-28-2005, 10:06 AM
gen 5 - I dont know what purple power is? what is the active content?
Bottle says it contains Alkaline detergents and 2-butoxyethanol (111-76-2).
www.clean-rite.com is the manufacturer site but I couldn't seem to get onto it.

blck87gtconv
04-29-2005, 08:33 AM
Bottle says it contains Alkaline detergents and 2-butoxyethanol (111-76-2).
www.clean-rite.com is the manufacturer site but I couldn't seem to get onto it.
Okay, yeah.. you DEFINITELY don't want that on your paint.

blck87gtconv
04-29-2005, 08:34 AM
Some Black Magic junk I picked up for real cheap one day. It works okay, but it smells great though!
You should try Meguiar's Soft Wash (I think it's been discontinued, though.. good thing I stocked up with a few bottles first. :woot:

carlosfandango
04-30-2005, 10:03 AM
Okay, yeah.. you DEFINITELY don't want that on your paint.

it also reacts to aluminium :D it wont harm the paintwork but it will strip all waxes off, but i personaly wouldnt leave it on my paint work for more then 10 seconds - it would be a quick wipe away for grease or oil then a soap and water rinse, then wax.