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CollapsedNut
02-20-2011, 05:32 PM
Found this today, you can use MR Spyder buckets.
http://www.rossmachineracing.com/3sbucket.html

CollapsedNut
02-20-2011, 06:05 PM
http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=24542

alltracman78
02-21-2011, 01:04 AM
They're 1zzfe buckets. 1.8 In the Corolla, Matrix, Celica and MR2.

CollapsedNut
02-21-2011, 01:11 AM
Someone should sticky this in the how to section, I searched for hours trying to find info on this jesus.

CriScO
02-21-2011, 05:40 AM
Someone should sticky this in the how to section, I searched for hours trying to find info on this jesus.
Someone should make us a write-up when he does it to his GE. That'd probably get stickied. :)

KoreanJoey
02-21-2011, 06:25 AM
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schnee
02-21-2011, 10:31 AM
Check with Mafix, he's been using them for ages
Toyota Echo I believe uses them too, VERY expensive but safe

All you do is measure your existing shim & bucket and buy the equivalent size!
When last did anyone actually check their shims?

Anyone got any spare 3.05-3.15 shims?

alltracman78
02-21-2011, 04:05 PM
The Echo has a different engine [at least in the US]. 1NZFE, same one that's in the Prius and Yaris.
It's possible it uses the same buckets though.

The shims [and buckets] don't appreciably wear.
I have never seen a shim or bucket that was out of spec from time/wear. Dealers don't even really stock them anymore.
They only get replaced when machining or parts replacement is done.

schnee
02-22-2011, 02:07 AM
My point exactly, after 20 odd years wear is someting like 0.02mm

Toyota NZ no longer stocks shims and JPN doesn't have them either!
ps. 3S-GE shims are the same for 4A-GE, late 4A-FE, 3S-FE, 7M, 5E, 7A etc, so there's no excuse.

I'm reduced to scavenging the lots atm for my new head

RedRkt01
03-21-2011, 07:16 PM
Aren't they more lightweight as well? I researched this a while back for my GE and they're part of the master plan. While I did that research I seem to remember seeing that the total compliment was lighter by several ounces compared to the stock units.

CollapsedNut
03-21-2011, 07:51 PM
Yeah I hear that as well. I dont fully understand how a lighter bucket does anything tho...

Mafix
03-21-2011, 11:42 PM
long and short of it...
they are horribly expensive and i've found un-needed. use shim under bucket for a 7mgte or 4age. all the same part. at least this way you can just buy a shim when you screw up a measurement instead of a 16+ dollar bucket.

v8killer
04-20-2011, 08:11 AM
wait so 7mgte is shim under? like a gen3? and if not what shim under bucket to use on a gen1? i think i am just gonna build my gen1 to get 400 then worry about my killer build later....

alltracman78
04-20-2011, 07:24 PM
Yeah I hear that as well. I dont fully understand how a lighter bucket does anything tho...

Less weight the spring has to move up and down. Less parasitic loss and less wear and tear.
It's a pretty significant difference at high RPMs [above stock].