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CollapsedNut
01-23-2011, 11:22 PM
After over two years of trying, I finally have her in my shop!
She has some insane rod knock! Thats ok though, she will be reborn!

3SGE swap in progress.

Hookecho
01-24-2011, 12:36 AM
Do a 3sge swap. That would be very cool.

CollapsedNut
01-24-2011, 12:41 AM
[QUOTE=Hookecho;30145558]Do a 3sge swap. That would be very cool.[/QUOTE
If I can come up with a wreaked GTS for a really good price, like under $300 I would do it.

Luni
01-24-2011, 01:00 AM
Yes, GTE valves are like 1mm os for a FE head like a 3S/5S. Talk to MrTurrari about all this stuff, this is all his cup of tea.

85gtsblackman
01-24-2011, 03:43 AM
i really wish someone would put a 1st rev 5s in a 4th gen, should cost around the same

UtahSleeper
01-24-2011, 04:40 AM
Good plan to just rebuild. Although I think the GE would be the best option if the price is right.

CollapsedNut
01-24-2011, 04:45 AM
i really wish someone would put a 1st rev 5s in a 4th gen, should cost around the same
Gimmi a 5s and a ge head w/ all the stuff and I'll do it. Thats my favorite setup but I cant afford to go sourcing parts all over the world.
Ima starting calling around monday to see if I can locate a gts.

Grot
01-24-2011, 04:50 AM
I got a 3sge long block you could have had if i knew you were in knoxville

85gtsblackman
01-24-2011, 08:20 AM
well, a 1st gen 5sfe should be plug and play

also it will make the same power as a rev 1 3sge

CollapsedNut
01-24-2011, 04:34 PM
I got a 3sge long block you could have had if i knew you were in knoxville
Well I may just come back to knoxville then... I wanna go to the pull a part also. Ima plan to come up the 5th of next month, lemmi know about said longblock.

CollapsedNut
01-25-2011, 03:19 AM
Tonight I worked on getting the engine out.
Wiring pulled out.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj253/Collapsednut/mud7.jpg
Exhaust mani off and other crap disconected
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj253/Collapsednut/mud5.jpg
Where I ended for the night.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj253/Collapsednut/mu6.jpg

Grot
01-25-2011, 03:26 AM
The 5th should be fine. If you want the engine it's yours. You can have my spare parts also. I will run down to PAP with you if you want as well. But making all these trips down you better be at the dragon.

CollapsedNut
01-25-2011, 03:30 AM
Haha I dont even know when the dragon run is. We'll see. I prefer to take my CBR to the dragon tho...
Ill deff take the engine. Whats its story? You near murg or what?

187flatliner
01-25-2011, 03:32 AM
man you could've made it easy on yourself....next time....dont worry about the wiring harness, just disconnect it from ecu and pull through the firewall....easy as pie. when i pulled flatliners engine thats what i did, i didnt even pull the exhaust header, it came right out. i pulled the rad of course and the airbox and the small shyt, but it can comeout pretty easy with alot still on there. shyt i didnt even disconnect the axles. i just pulled the boots apart and kept one end in the tranny. (i didnt have a 30mm socket with airgun).

Grot
01-25-2011, 04:36 AM
Haha I dont even know when the dragon run is. We'll see. I prefer to take my CBR to the dragon tho...
Ill deff take the engine. Whats its story? You near murg or what?

The engine is 4 streets over from murg.

The engine was in my Celica the last time. the block need 2 rod bearings. the head will need the valves/buckets adjusted.

Its free tho. i have like 4 timing belts you can have if you want them.

Have cam pulleys and few other things.

No manifolds or oil pan.

CollapsedNut
01-25-2011, 02:20 PM
Right on grot. Ill deffinatly take it. Ill talk to you closer to the 5th and get directions and shit.

CollapsedNut
01-26-2011, 04:01 AM
Tonight I didnt get to work long, but it took me an hour to get the driver CV nut off.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj253/Collapsednut/axle1.jpg
I ended up having to break out my 1" socket set, add a 2' cheater pipe and a pry bar to get me about 3' out. It still felt like it was gonna break my socket before the nut came loose.

CollapsedNut
01-27-2011, 02:35 AM
No pics tonight. I didnt get my hoist like I had planned on so I just got everything ready to come out. Tomorrow I'll go get my hoist and pull this baby out.
I've been thinking about going to the GE head, Im just worried about finding all the stuff Ill need. Hopefuly the trip to PAP will give me what I need for cheap.

187flatliner
01-27-2011, 02:56 AM
you do know if you dont have a 30mm socket and airgun you can just break the seal on the boot and just reseal them, that way you dont have to worry about the axle nuts. they are a pita if you dont have the right tools.

CollapsedNut
01-27-2011, 03:02 AM
Im not a fan of taking the CV's apart unless your gonna replace them. Axles are out now anyways.

CollapsedNut
01-28-2011, 03:33 AM
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/engine1_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=18345)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/eng2_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=18346)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/eng4_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=18348)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/eng5_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=18349)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/dirty_valves_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=18350)
Some Yucky build up on all the intake valves, mani looks about the same. Its been sucking in oil from the PCV.

And finally..... The whole reason for doing all this.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/bearing1_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=18351)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/bearing2_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=18352)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/bearing3_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=18353)
Thats all for tonight. My stupid air gun wouldn't take the harmonic balancer/pully off so I gotta borrow a buddies tomorrow. I gotta get some long bolt to get the block on my engine stand so I can actually pull it apart.

85gtsblackman
01-28-2011, 09:02 AM
you can get the bolts from ace hardware, good work keep going

CollapsedNut
01-28-2011, 01:51 PM
Im a little worried about the crank. I can see groves in it so Im sure itll need to be turned. Ima get some price quotes today.
Even if i end up using the 3sge Grot is giving me, Id still like to rebuild the 3sfe to have another engine if ever needed.

Murgatroy
01-28-2011, 01:55 PM
That's a pretty bad bearing there ain't it?

CollapsedNut
01-28-2011, 03:26 PM
Haha yeah. That one got burned up. Its crazy how clean the crank and oil pan are tho. Nothing sticky or gummy.

CollapsedNut
01-29-2011, 03:25 AM
Engine block is completely down now. 3 of the 5 main bearings are really messed up and crank is gonna need turning. Little bits of the rod bearing that went out have made their way all thru the engine and made marks in everything. But shes do-able. Ill take the crank to a local guy who builds nascar engines and he will fix it. Im not sure what to do about the connecting rod that the bearing spun on. Ive never had to replace one and I donno if you can like... reface the rod jurnal where the bearing sits? New rods are like $300 and used sounds kinda risky. Opinions?

UtahSleeper
01-29-2011, 05:28 AM
I think used is as risky as trying to salvage a rod that had spun a bearing. Personnally I would try and find a set of used.

CollapsedNut
01-29-2011, 01:42 PM
I found new ones for $80 so Ima just buy a new one. Way safer that way.

CollapsedNut
01-29-2011, 11:54 PM
Took out all the seats and carpet today, cleaned it up real good and put it back in. Looks nice now. I left the rear seat out cause I have no use for it, and weight reduction!
Side note, I used laundry detergent in my carpet cleaner thingy, something like little green machine, it worked good.
The car smells like a mountain meadow now haha. It was a little soapy but not to bad.
I took some of the engine brackets and random other things that were rusty down to my uncles machine shop and sandblasted them. Ill get some paint tomorrow to make them look new.
Ima clean up the engine bay some and rewrap the wiring harness cause some portions of the plastic cover are broken or rotton.
In a few weeks Ill be able to start ordering parts to put the engine back together so Ima try to get some random stuff done before then.

CollapsedNut
01-31-2011, 03:37 AM
Cleaned up the engine harness today. New conduit and taped it all up nice and clean. Took out some of the interior peices and washed them. Im debating getting some black paint and painting the plastics but Im worried itll scrape and flake off. Ima do some searching and see what it takes to keep the paint for coming off.

Aaron Willis
02-01-2011, 05:32 PM
SEM Color Coat will stick, and Landau Black looks like OEM. Use their prep products and don't skip any steps.

CollapsedNut
02-01-2011, 07:11 PM
SEM Color Coat will stick, and Landau Black looks like OEM. Use their prep products and don't skip any steps.

Thanks Aaron! I'll be getting back with you in a few weeks to order some stuff. Waiting on my crank to get turned and he will tell me what size bearings to get. I finally understand toyota bearings I think, I found that my block is stamped with some referance marks to determine the bearing size. Is it true I can get toyota bearings in .003 increments? Im just wondering after the crank is turned if I will be able to get bearings to perfectly match the crank like OEM.

Grot
02-01-2011, 07:54 PM
If your still planning on coming down to get that engine let me know a day or two in advance, Preferably with a time.

The engine is at my dads house so i will have to talk to him to make sure i will be able to get to it.

Aaron Willis
02-02-2011, 02:03 AM
Is it true I can get toyota bearings in .003 increments?Double check the BGB on that - the increments are much smaller than .003". If you're griding the crank you're certain to need undersized bearings.

CollapsedNut
02-05-2011, 11:59 PM
So It has been desided. Im gonna do a 3SGE swap. I found everything I need at the PAP today. I couldnt get it all but Ima go back the 11th and get everything if its still there. I hope so.
Grot GAVE me a 3sge that needs rebuilding, hes a super guy and very nice. Has a cute dog as well. Thanks again Grot!

85gtsblackman
02-06-2011, 07:37 PM
if you serch you may be able to find a new crank with a bearing set at a good price

CollapsedNut
02-06-2011, 07:49 PM
I found a crank kit on egay for $220. By my math itll be cheaper to get mine turned. Guy charges $80 to turn it and ill spend probably $60 on bearings.
Something Im kinda wondering tho, I mic'ed the 3sge crank and it has been turned .030 so far. Is it bad to go smaller? I know people do it every day, but Im just wondering.

CollapsedNut
02-10-2011, 12:21 AM
Need to know if the fuse box is the same between the ge and fe harnesses. I think the box was gone on the one at PAP and it just hit me its porbably differant.

85gtsblackman
02-10-2011, 01:23 AM
I found a crank kit on egay for $220. By my math itll be cheaper to get mine turned. Guy charges $80 to turn it and ill spend probably $60 on bearings.
Something Im kinda wondering tho, I mic'ed the 3sge crank and it has been turned .030 so far. Is it bad to go smaller? I know people do it every day, but Im just wondering.

the smaller you go the more rotations it would have, unless the bearing itself is thicker but is it better to have thinner bearings and a beefy crank?

im not a fan of turning a crank more than once, id rather be safe than sorry

did u try rock auto?

CollapsedNut
02-10-2011, 02:14 AM
I didnt try rock auto, from what Ive seen there prices are as high or higher than toyota. Ill check tho, just for you.
As for the crank size, I realized the 3sge Ima get friday from PAP will have a crank(cheaper to buy the whole engine than buying each part I need to complete the swap). Hopefully it hasnt been turned. I've been advised by some mechanics that taking a crank any further than .030 under isn't advised because you have to get thicker bearings and that adds more pressure on them, making them fail sooner.

That should settle my crank problems. Now Im wondering about cam jurnals. The engine Grot gave me, the cam bearing caps? jurnal caps? whatever you call them. Some of them have score marks from metal shards. I checked them and they are within spec, but I worry they would wear out quickly or damage the cam. Opinions? Help?

CollapsedNut
02-12-2011, 01:04 AM
Got me another 3sge from PAP today. $150 for a complete engine and harness. Ima tear into it in a few, had to come in and eat cause I was starving. I was so excited about getting it, I skipped breakfast, worked straight thru lunch and drove home without stopping. Hopefully this thing has a crank I can use. Fingers crossed.

Grot
02-12-2011, 01:07 AM
Break it open, maybe its a better starting point than the one i gave you.

Also just remembered on the one i gave you make sure you shim the buckets, they didnt look like they had shims in them. I think i lost them between swaps

Murgatroy
02-12-2011, 01:13 AM
Yo ass was back in Knoxvegas today?

CollapsedNut
02-12-2011, 02:45 AM
Yeah I was gonna call you but I figured you were working. Should I of? haha sorry.

Oh just got the intake mani and tvis off, guess how many butterflys the tvis has..... FUCKING 3! where did the 4th go?! Damn.

Murgatroy
02-12-2011, 03:43 AM
Yeah I was working. If it is a weekday and the sun is up, I am at work.

CollapsedNut
02-12-2011, 10:48 PM
Well the data is in. Heres whats gonna happen. Gonna take both cranks to the shop and let him deside which to turn. Gonna use the block, 3 rods and 4 pistons that Grot gave me. Gonna use 1 rod and the head from the PAP engine. I really wanted to use the head Grot gave me, but its cam journals are just to far gone. That will settle the engine part. I cleaned up the PAP harness today and made it look nice and new.
I gotta figure out where the ignitor mounts on the 3sge setup, same place?

CollapsedNut
02-13-2011, 03:01 AM
Side plan. Find another head. The one from PAP is "ok" but I donno. ONE cam journal just isnt good enough for me. It would probably be fine, but I dont wanna skimp, but I also dont have a fortune to spend on this. In about two weeks it will be time to take the head to the shop and have it gone thru, so if I dont have a better option by then, Ill just go with it.

85gtsblackman
02-17-2011, 03:13 AM
Side plan. Find another head. The one from PAP is "ok" but I donno. ONE cam journal just isnt good enough for me. It would probably be fine, but I dont wanna skimp, but I also dont have a fortune to spend on this. In about two weeks it will be time to take the head to the shop and have it gone thru, so if I dont have a better option by then, Ill just go with it.

see what the machinist says, remember this stuff is over 20 years old and has a good bit of milage on it. Dont do like me and end up with 5 engines of the same family

85gtsblackman
02-17-2011, 03:13 AM
effing dub post bullshite

CollapsedNut
02-20-2011, 06:29 AM
Think its worth getting some cams? I have no idea what kinda cams I would get, but would it be reasonable to gain 20-30hp from cams with the .020 overbore pistons and some higher compression, 10:1 maybe?

Running normal gas....

85gtsblackman
02-20-2011, 01:23 PM
cant hurt

CollapsedNut
02-20-2011, 04:14 PM
Got to thinking, 20-30hp may be pushing it. Just donno if its worth $700 to get 10hp....

Maybe just a regrind?

85gtsblackman
02-20-2011, 04:46 PM
regrind would work and be more cost effective, on a side note, fwd celicas are expensive to build

CollapsedNut
02-20-2011, 04:55 PM
Yup. Im not gonna go crazy with this by any means. Not sure if a regrind means Ill need new springs and stuff, I would think they make a shim kit for my buckets but Ive never seen one.

85gtsblackman
02-21-2011, 01:43 AM
post in the n/a thread about it

i guess you would havta go though webcams for a regrind, talk to them as well

oh btw i ment to tell you it may be a good idea to go get the crank and rods balanced for a smoother running engine

CollapsedNut
02-21-2011, 01:58 AM
I found some info on going to shimless buckets, posted it in 4th gen section. Balancing is on the list as well.

CollapsedNut
02-22-2011, 03:35 AM
Cleaned my injectors tonight. Ordered my rebuild kit from Mr Injector on ebay. Ill make a how to thing later.

CollapsedNut
03-08-2011, 11:08 PM
Well balls. I need to get this car outs the shop by the end of next month. This means I cant afford cams, which means I have no reason to up compression, which means I dont need the cometic head gasket, arp studs, wideband, or safc. All because of some stupid cams. I dont wanna be stock :(
My birthday is april 5th so Ima hope for lots of birthday money from family. Ill thorw a party so people come and Ill just tell them I need moneys, not gifts lol
Maybe Ill man whore on the side. I bet I can make a bunch! Murg and Grot have meet me, they can attest to me sexy-ness!

4thgenceli
03-08-2011, 11:11 PM
The stock 3sge is a blast though. Compared to the 3sfe, the 3sge is a kick in the pants (at least in my experience).

Grot
03-08-2011, 11:18 PM
I enjoyed my stock 3sge very much... the little it ran.

have you been able to source the TVIS system yet?

CollapsedNut
03-09-2011, 12:35 AM
Yeah kinda. MR2 Guru said he has some in his shop somewhere, need to call him and see if he found it. All those guys just delete the tvis so he has a few laying around. I got the mani and everything from the PAP engine, its just missing one of the tvis butterflys. Who knows where it went.

Also 4g, I hate to go back on you, and if youve all ready spent time on it then Ill make it work, but I dont need that head I guess. Ima use one of the two I have and call it a day. If youve all ready spent time on it then Ill take it, I hate to think I made you waste your time. Lemmi know

Nevermind, gonna need that head. I PM'd you slut

4thgenceli
03-09-2011, 02:23 AM
Make up your mind! lmao.

I'll strip it Saturday & get pics. I need the oil pressure sender off it cuz I think the one on Storm Trooper has phailed or is phailing lol.

CollapsedNut
03-09-2011, 02:31 AM
Good look at my post in GD about the TVIS, youll understand. Wish I had looked at that head sooner lol. And keep your damn sender, I didnt want it anyways, probably smells like man sex. Need ot figure out how your gonna ship it, thats gonna be a killer. Flat rate box?! lol

4thgenceli
03-09-2011, 02:38 AM
If it fits, it SHIPS! lol. But it has to fit in a 12"x12"x5.5" box though lol.

CollapsedNut
03-09-2011, 03:00 AM
Yeah, not gonna happen. Damn

4thgenceli
03-09-2011, 03:22 AM
I have a business UPS account and can ship from the office as well. Should be able to get it for a dceent price though. I'll toss it in a box and figure how much it weighs and shit.

CollapsedNut
03-09-2011, 03:33 AM
Hey me too. Probably doesnt make it any cheaper tho. ship to zip 28786

CollapsedNut
03-09-2011, 11:53 PM
Ordered speakers, amp and sub today so I can get the interior back together. Gotta go get some wire tomorow for battery relocation.
Gotta pick out some suspension now. My credit card bill just keeps going up /sigh

CollapsedNut
03-19-2011, 04:40 AM
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/hu.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=18948)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/amp.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=18949)

More pics tomorrow. Gonna make my rear seat pan cover tomorrow hopefully. Gota fab up my battery bracket for the pan the amp isnt in.

CollapsedNut
03-19-2011, 10:33 PM
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/cover.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=18962)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/cover2.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=18963)

Eric Barrera
03-19-2011, 10:38 PM
Use to have the same stereo. Then I just switched to a Pioneer, I always hated it -____-

CollapsedNut
03-20-2011, 12:12 AM
I love mine.... It does everything I need it to. Why didnt you like yours?

Eric Barrera
03-20-2011, 12:27 AM
Idk honestly, i just hated that it lags like a bitch to play cd's. Like a full min to start playing. I sold it to my friend for 250..

CollapsedNut
03-21-2011, 01:33 AM
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/system.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=18991)

I don tcare what you think. That Hifonics $40 sub is clear, crisp, responsive and hits hard. Best $40 ever spent.

CollapsedNut
03-31-2011, 01:22 AM
All the speakers are done now. Front componets finally came in from being backordered. I put around $160 into the system not including the HU cause Ive had it. Im very pleased with how it turned out, I feel I got the best bang for my buck, pun intended.
Engine is still being worked on, waiting on the shop to turn my crankshaft and balance the rotating assembly. Got another head today thats way better than the two I have so Ima be getting it torn apart this week and to the shop for cleaning. Ive desided to go with ACL Race series main and rod bearings btw.

Other stuff Im gonna try to do before I roll it out the shop.
-HIDs
-Sand and paint the external window trim peices, sun has faded the paint on them.
-Suspension still needs to be done, waiting on funds to buy struts
-Order urethane rubber and attempt to make some bushings
-Finish battery hold down/Buy a smaller battery to fit under my rear seat area cover thingy.
probably more Im forgetting

CollapsedNut
04-28-2011, 02:31 AM
Update. Stil waiting on the shop to turn my crank and balance the bottom... been waiting like 5 weeks nows.
Head should be done sometime next week I think. Thats about all. Need to get this going

jaydog82
04-28-2011, 05:04 PM
looking good man

85gtsblackman
04-29-2011, 04:21 AM
did u get new rods or at least got the old ones machined to mach the crank with bearings?

CollapsedNut
06-04-2011, 07:32 PM
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj253/Collapsednut/crank.jpg
Finally got my crank and rods back.
I'll have to get a gen2 gte rear main seal cause aparently this crank is a gen2 and is bigger. Thanks MR2Guru!

Murgatroy
06-04-2011, 11:27 PM
So that is what that picture was...

CollapsedNut
06-05-2011, 01:17 AM
I tried to call you, douche. Why do my pics have to be approved before they come up. Im going back to photobucket

Luni
06-09-2011, 09:55 PM
It's a gallery glitch. Not sure what the hell. We are working in it tho.

CollapsedNut
06-09-2011, 10:45 PM
Gonna order my bearings tonight. Still need to sit down and figure out what timing belt I need to use with a 5s oil pump, if I have to think to hard Ill probably just use my 3s gear on the 5s pump. Need to get my ARP head studs.

Luni
06-09-2011, 11:04 PM
Use the same timing belt. The 5S pump is a higher output pump the 3S guys use, but they just use their belt. Im pretty sure the tooth count is the same. If you want to be sure, just count them.

CollapsedNut
06-10-2011, 02:02 AM
Pretty sure tooth count is differant. Least thats what I remember from the posts I read over on mr2OC and alltrac.net

CollapsedNut
06-10-2011, 02:24 AM
ACL is showing differant numbers for 3sfe and 3sge rod bearings. The specs are the same on both except for "max overall length". Ive never heard of max overall length as a bearing spec...
They list the FE as .807. The GE as .839. What is this spec and does it matter?
Im using a gen2 GTE crank with three FE rods and one GE rod. All the rods measure the same bore.

Aaron Willis
06-10-2011, 05:15 PM
That dimension sounds like bearing width.

CollapsedNut
06-10-2011, 08:29 PM
Too late lol. I ordered the 3sfe ones cause they are cheaper. We'll see what happens. Thanks Aaron

85gtsblackman
06-11-2011, 03:01 AM
Too late lol. I ordered the 3sfe ones cause they are cheaper. We'll see what happens. Thanks Aaron

why not do it right

kungFUBAR
06-11-2011, 05:19 AM
why not do it right

Considering the rest of the rotating assembly, I think he's being consistent lol

CollapsedNut
06-11-2011, 05:59 AM
What do you mean about right? I have a professionally polished, balanced, and checked crank and I have professionally balanced and measured rods. Im not sure how much more "right" I could get....
Are you talking about not getting toyota brand bearings? Im sorry plenty of people use aftermarket with no problems.

Of course Im not just gonna stick the bearings in and not check them. If they turn out to not be correct I will know it and then will know which path to take.

CollapsedNut
06-16-2011, 06:19 PM
Got my head back today. Not totally happy. They were supposed to deck it .001 but it doesn't look like they did.
cost me $100 more than it was quoted also.

UtahSleeper
06-16-2011, 07:38 PM
What was thier reason for the spike in price? And why not take it back and have it decked like you told them?

CollapsedNut
06-16-2011, 08:24 PM
Local napa. Taking it back and arguing withthem would be a waste of time now that i see how they run. I wouldn't win simply put. The price he quoted me was aparently just for the valve job. Didn't include cleaning and adjusting the valves. Kinda bs that adjustment isn't included with the valve job price.

CollapsedNut
06-17-2011, 12:08 AM
So they decked it. It just looks like shit. My uncle refered me to a buddie of his who builds race engines. He said
the head was indeed decked but the grinding stone must have been bad. Its flat but not a good finish.

4thgenceli
06-17-2011, 12:29 AM
I wouldn't trust napa to do head work. I took my head to a local machine shop. Stripped, new valve seals put in (I think guides too), cleaned & make sure she was flat & called it a day. Hopefully it's smooth enough to allow the HG to seal properly.

CollapsedNut
06-17-2011, 02:03 AM
Im just in a bad spot cause i deal with napa all most everyday at work. If i call them out they will
probably sores up anything i get from now on. Its the whole small town privatly owned business thing.
basically with them the customer never wins. There was once a time when people took pride in their work. That days
gone from what i've seen.

CollapsedNut
07-07-2011, 04:12 AM
Got alot of stuff together now. I was wrong earlier. I thought I was using a fe rod...I'm not. Donno why I thhought
that. Bottom end is together and checks out good. Now to find all the bolts I've lost lol

CollapsedNut
07-07-2011, 04:15 AM
That dimension sounds like bearing width.

You were correct btw. Go you!

CollapsedNut
11-17-2011, 12:40 AM
I guess I could update some stuff. I had pics... but I got a new phone and didnt feel like moving them over. I have the engine about together. Waiting to get ARP head studs cause skrew the toyota allen head bolts. Having second thoughts about the timing. Im worried I've got too big of an oil pump gear and its throwing my timing off. I'll investigate further when I can get back to NC and have some time. Also gotta go bolt shopping cause I've lost some of the bolts like alt bracket to block, cv axle bearing carrier, and Im sure I'll find some more I've misplaced.

Luckynumber5
11-18-2011, 04:14 PM
How often are you in JC? And did you go to the NAPA here? It sounds like you did, they are a bunch of dicks.

CollapsedNut
11-18-2011, 04:45 PM
I actually live in JC now. Car is still in NC, used the NAPA down there. Anything I do from here on will be done by Top Speed in Jonesborough. They do excelent work.

Luckynumber5
11-18-2011, 05:47 PM
I don't have any experience with them, Ive been going to Cutshalls for a while now. He takes freaking forever for the more complicated stuff but he has a quick turnaround for the more common things. What brought you to JC? Also if you need my shop has access to a truck and trailer, we haul cars a few times a month.

match220
11-24-2011, 11:13 PM
good luck bro!

CollapsedNut
03-02-2012, 12:34 AM
Some new parts came in today. Gonna be finishing this project up soon. More still on the UPS truck.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/new_parts.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21276)

CollapsedNut
03-05-2012, 12:33 AM
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/6/9/4/2012-03-03_18-49-04_51.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21279)

BabyBear
03-05-2012, 04:14 AM
Dats a purdy lookin engine

CollapsedNut
03-05-2012, 04:37 AM
I actually made more progress then that but I didn't take another picture. Exhaust manifold is on. Ac pump, belt tensioner, and alt are on. Ps pump is on. I replaced the clutch slave, master, all the tie rods inner and outer. Still have the breaks to do and ball joints. But I'm moving along now. Should be done by dragon time

UtahSleeper
03-22-2012, 10:07 PM
So, how is this coming along?

CollapsedNut
03-22-2012, 10:37 PM
I've been playing with chassis stuff. New bushings, brakes, tie rods ect. Cleaned the shop last Sunday to get ready for the engine hoist to come back in. Plan is to have the motor back in on the 1st. It may not be running then... but at least sitting in the bay. Waiting on the ignitor from Mafix and the AFM from Redrkt, need to get a rear main seal, and thats all I need to have the engine done cept for exhaust work. If I can find a matching set of wheels....and dont run into any problems...I could be driving at the dragon, but I'll be cutting it close.

4thgenceli
03-22-2012, 10:57 PM
This shit run yet?

CollapsedNut
03-22-2012, 11:04 PM
Don't EVEN go there.

4thgenceli
03-22-2012, 11:07 PM
Don't EVEN go there.

You started it :P

CollapsedNut
07-26-2012, 02:40 AM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/s0Pm-nReIZK1AHmDAzpmpmczEpYlcMB3g4bh-ZYcXIWEOZFPJLQnf8jSJ5HHSrtWUVVykxWktLQ
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zWpje9WexmrGKmRoFWPJMB_BhH5a2I5qK3DixKXKRr6DH3-SPNe1efFeG8n0K832R0sBcK3FVUE
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/49pZmEeFkzYhr8lFyGWpnXonsGNMiOjv14gRzjZp44_x4XR6h3 IhvftKs5vurxlVxurJGo_xKcA
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/ZxKUGkb--QQaKfj1pL4bg0_4yCQmvD4NdPi_XyEyt2uxu6Tp1nKcIpA4nRH 53m90_APVmXNc-1o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfIG0lDY5N4

4thgenceli
07-26-2012, 02:50 AM
This shit drive yet?

CollapsedNut
07-26-2012, 03:00 AM
It moves. Not fully driveable yet.

Hookecho
07-26-2012, 03:04 PM
The best part is now you can drive.

Waffles!
07-26-2012, 04:18 PM
Are you even legal to drive yet?

Murgatroy
07-26-2012, 05:25 PM
Are you even legal to drive yet?

He is.

CollapsedNut
07-26-2012, 06:05 PM
Are you even legal to drive yet?

I sure am!

CollapsedNut
08-09-2014, 05:44 AM
Long time no update here. As some people know this engine blew the hell up. God it ran good when it ran though, it was a blast to drive. It started burning oil, really bad. Oil was seeping around the #4 valve guide if I recall. Hookecho sent me a used head and I had it gone through by a shop in TN that had always done excellent work, I had assembled a few ford engines that they had done and it was always perfection. Well of course my luck kicked in and the valve job was crap, they wouldn't fix it, so I spent hours and hours and hours lapping the valves to get them seated. After all that, I drove it less than 1000 miles and the new oil pump exploded. Metal flake in my bearings but the crank is fine. This all happened the same time that I lost my job in TN and went 7 months with no job. Car's been sitting covered and on blocks for over a year now since I moved to ND. Had to sell the wheels and tires on it for gas money to get here lol. But now that I bought this junk 165 I'm going to put the 3sgte into MudHoney. Plan is to get this engine completely ready to swap by using the 165 as a glorified engine stand and test platform. I'm aiming to do this before the end of the year, probably around Thanksgiving I'll take a week off work and head to NC.

Once the old 3sge is out I'm going to do something with the cylinder head as a decorative piece in memory of Bruce(Hookecho). I was rock bottom hardly enough money to live on and driving my motorcycle everywhere because the celica burnt way to much oil to drive. My girlfriend of 5 years had left me suddenly and crushed me and I had to move into an apartment on my own. Bruce gave me this head and talked to me just about every night at a time when I felt I had no one, coming home to an empty apartment every night. Then I lost my job and he got me to make the best decision I've made in my life, coming to ND. If it weren't for him and others on Ctech I don't think I would have moved up here. I am financially stable now and I love my life. I wan't to do something with it so it will be a reminder of the support and family we have here, because without Bruce I don't know if I would be alive and I certainly wouldn't be in the great position I am now.

Shadowlife25
08-09-2014, 03:41 PM
The move was definitely the best choice brother. Glad that you appreciate that. And good call on re-purposing the head. I like that idea a lot.

CollapsedNut
03-12-2015, 02:43 AM
So after buying an all-trac that was a rusted bucket, I pulled the running 3sgte from it and it's going in mudhoney! yay!
http://i.imgur.com/HzdYCtJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rPVph5V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oDXUZRg.jpg

this will be a semi stock build. Stock bottom end. 3SGE head and side feed manifold. gen2 twin entry turbo setup. FMIC. Stock boost and fueling.
I'm playing with transmissions, and it's looking like Ima convert a st185 tranny to FWD and use it. We'll see after I do some testing on the 165 tranny conversion.
Just keeping it simple, I've had this car for a long long time and haven't driven her but a few months total, so at this point I just want to get something going and drive.

andy
03-12-2015, 03:05 PM
sounds like a plan

CollapsedNut
03-24-2015, 02:14 AM
Head and rotating assembly are out being gone over, so I've been cleaning and painting stuffs. Ford med grey is the primary color. Loss gloss black valve cover and timing covers. Keeping it basic, not flashy.
http://i.imgur.com/961tLl7.jpg

Nitro_Alltrac
03-24-2015, 02:19 AM
This answers my Facebook question.

CollapsedNut
03-31-2015, 12:05 AM
So I'm wanting to use the st165 tranny, or the 185 tranny I have. I took the 165 apart to see how I could make it work. Here's a video.E50f st165 awd to fwd: http://youtu.be/TbIeNv04fxM

CollapsedNut
02-23-2016, 04:19 AM
I'm back at it. I should take a picture of the engine on the stand. It's assembled. I was going to use a twin entry (gen2) ct26 but after fitting it all I found that I cant use the stock oil cooler with it, and I don't want the hassle of adding a different oil cooler. So I called up Harry (mr2guru) and he had a 7m ct26(single entry same as gen1 3s) laying around and sent it to me for a small compensation. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B00GVCxk-F-Fd3lKLVlXOE1fbEE/view?usp=sharing So now I'm back on track.

4thgenceli
02-23-2016, 06:26 PM
Woot?

CollapsedNut
02-24-2016, 03:30 AM
http://i.imgur.com/pkuIZ32.jpg
Replacing the knock wire and the injector connectors that I stepped on and broke.

CollapsedNut
02-25-2016, 02:01 AM
http://i.imgur.com/gtvCNBv.jpg
Just sitting. Like it has for the past 7 years.

Facime
02-25-2016, 02:48 AM
that turbo looks huge on there

CollapsedNut
02-25-2016, 03:15 AM
It does doesn't it.

Murgatroy
02-25-2016, 03:58 PM
That is bullshit, last time I saw her was like two years ago, and she was in North Carolina.

andy
02-25-2016, 07:38 PM
get to work monkey

CollapsedNut
02-26-2016, 03:26 AM
That is bullshit, last time I saw her was like two years ago, and she was in North Carolina.

Ok. What I meant was not running for 7 years. Granted there was a tiny window several years ago that she ran for a month or two. Happy dick face?

CollapsedNut
02-29-2016, 04:07 AM
Went to drop the tank to remove the fuel pump, realized I was gonna have to break things to get the tank out because old car. Cut hole in floor to access the pump. Fuel lines wouldn't come apart, ends stripped even with my fancy line wrench. So I cut those bastards too. Sat down on JEGS and ordered everything to replace the metal fuel tube from the tank to the engine with braided hose and AN fittings, in-line filters, new 255lph fuel pump, and a adjustable fuel pressure regulator.
Racecar quality fuel delivery for my pile of parts.

donteatbugs
02-29-2016, 11:32 AM
ugh, old cars...

CollapsedNut
03-01-2016, 02:13 AM
http://i.imgur.com/N25i8WX.jpg

CollapsedNut
03-02-2016, 04:58 AM
Nice new silicon hose and clamps all around. I mostly dicked around trying to figure out a way to do the rear coolant hose, it's a solid 180 degree bend. I can't find anything that'll work without kinking so I guess I'll order the OEM molded one. I could get a 45 degree fitting to replace the straight barb coming out of the block, but by the time I do that I coulda just bought the OEM hose. Also the upper hose on the oil cooler is similar so I'll probably order it too. It's gonna be like Christmas this week with all the packages I have coming.
http://i.imgur.com/RQuZRBC.jpg

CollapsedNut
03-04-2016, 04:36 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Qjy2k3j.jpg
Fuel hose and fittings came today. I'll maybe make a write up on installing it all, I was a little intimidated because I've never messed with using braided hose but it's all really very simple. I'm gonna wait till the engine is in to finish it, because I'm not sure where I'll mount my filters and FPR.
http://i.imgur.com/drudcf0.jpg
At the pump I cut the hardline and got a compression fitting to AN adapter (http://www.jegs.com/i/Earl%26%23039%3Bs/361/165056/10002/-1) Once you are converted to AN it's all cake from there. I shoulda took a picture before I put the pump back in.
http://i.imgur.com/7D6x1So.jpg
At the fuel rail I used a metric to AN adapter (http://www.jegs.com/i/Earl%26%23039%3Bs/361/991945/10002/-1) on the inlet and return side. I'll run braided to the adjustable fuel pressure regulator, after the regulator I'll just use the factory hardline return.
http://i.imgur.com/SDZGJIJ.jpg
Primary fuel filter, 10 micron. (http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performance+Products/555/150071/10002/-1)
http://i.imgur.com/TsxrIZr.jpg
40 micron mesh screen (http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performance+Products/555/15030/10002/-1) to go before the filter, just to catch any big stuff.
http://i.imgur.com/FfHJEQI.jpg
Then I gotta make room for the intercooler. I'm keeping my damn A.C. even though it's probably all junk and I'll have to replace it all to get it working. But I want it. So I gotta cut the front crash bar. This will block a good portion of the intercooler, but I think with the AC fan directly behind it (which will be on a remote switch so I can control it) that will pull some air, and I'll make a small scoop on the bottom to force air up and across it when moving.

Nitro_Alltrac
03-05-2016, 02:53 PM
Glad to see you're going to keep the crash bar Matt. I've seen guys pull the bar and just run the plastic cover.

One dick head backs into the front the car in a parking lot and the whole damn thing is shot to hell.

Routing the air up and through from underneath is a good idea. You should build an exit vent into the hood to get rid of the hot air.

CollapsedNut
03-05-2016, 06:47 PM
Yeah Mike. Looking around at what other people do I'm like...nah I want my protection. I'm gonna box in the cutout with pate to keep the bar structurally sound also.
This also keeps my IC up nice and high where I don't have to worry about it hitting something on the road. I hated the way it was mounted in my 165, it hung lower than the front tow hooks, that's just asking for problems.

CollapsedNut
03-06-2016, 06:38 AM
Took the engine off the stand tonight, went to put the rear main seal on...wrong damn seal. Apparently 1988 3SGTE's need a smaller I.D. seal than 89 up into gen2. How dumb is that. So it's back on the stand, be Tuesday before I can get the seal because of course nobody in town has it.

Shadowlife25
03-06-2016, 06:44 AM
Good progress bro. Glad to see it getting closer.

Nitro_Alltrac
03-08-2016, 01:50 AM
Wow, I didn't know that about the rear seal. I would never imagined that would be different.

I mounted my heat exchanger where it catches the air through the to slat in my bumper cover. Up there nice and safe behind the crash bar.

andy
03-09-2016, 09:04 PM
Nice parts, Im sure it will look nice once you finish it up.

Murgatroy
03-10-2016, 12:55 AM
No one drive Celicas anymore noob.

CollapsedNut
03-10-2016, 01:37 AM
Yeah I'm like 10 years late to the game.

donteatbugs
03-10-2016, 03:57 AM
so are 23 yr olds

CollapsedNut
03-10-2016, 04:17 AM
Tonight's fun involved trying to figure out how to get a wastegate actuator on my supra ct26. The intake side of the turbo is clocked different on a supra and none of the holes for OEM style mounting work with the way I gotta clock it for my application. So unless I want my compressor blowing straight at the cylinder block(which won't even work) I gotta do something. I thought about doing this, and using the manifold studs to mount the actuator. But I feel like the heat will melt the diaphragm inside the actuator. So I get to ponder on this for a few days.
http://i.imgur.com/wow58bb.jpg

Facime
03-10-2016, 09:34 PM
two ideas:

1. phenolic spacer or some other insulator to offer a little protection

2. Instead of mounting the diaphragm to the compressor, what about mounting it from the other side (maybe off the alternator bracket?). Aside from the mounting, all you would have to do is rotate the wastegate shaft arm 180. (looking at the picture, rotate the tang from 11:00 to 5:00)

donteatbugs
03-11-2016, 02:05 PM
This is why you should have a little mig welder....solves all these problems faster

CollapsedNut
03-11-2016, 10:01 PM
Why would I want a little one when I have a big one?http://i.imgur.com/zcc3JQu.jpg

4thgenceli
03-11-2016, 11:49 PM
Cuz the big one is too big for your little hands?

Murgatroy
03-12-2016, 01:08 AM
His little hands make it look much bigger than it really is.

METDeath
03-12-2016, 03:00 AM
"I bet it is going to feel huge in this hand."

CollapsedNut
03-12-2016, 06:40 AM
I should have realized when the rear main seal was different that I wouldn't be able to use the flywheel I had in the GE. I had planned on using it because it is actually a gen2 GTE flywheel that I had machined lightened and the disk and pressure plate were matched to it. It wasn't some cobbled together clutch basically. But nooooooo can't have Matt saving any money here can we. So I gotta use the flywheel that was on the turbo engine which is in great shape, probably doesn't 1000 miles on it, but it's not all fancy. I'ma try to get ahold of my race car machinist tomorrow and see if he can/is willing to work on it while I wait. If not...I'll just stick it in and go. I shoulda got new bolts also. Oh well.

CollapsedNut
03-13-2016, 04:39 AM
http://i.imgur.com/cpkZtYY.jpg
I'm taking tomorrow off. I havent washed the 4Runner in three weeks, hardly done laundry, have no food, and my living room floor is really dirty for some reason.

CollapsedNut
03-17-2016, 01:42 AM
Made my wastegate actuator bracket yesterday. Need to clean it up and paint it still. I really wanted to have the compressor housing pointing down, but with this 7M turbo there's just no good way to do it. I'd have to have a really intricuit actuator bracket that's not mounting to the housing. So for now this will be the way, it can always be changed later.
http://i.imgur.com/aOUzP8c.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wufK9t3.jpg
Cut the crash bar tonight and brought it home to test fit. I like it. I'll take it back to work tomorrow and do some welding. I like how high the IC sits, nice and safe. But, looking at how I want to do the pipe routing and I'm starting to see that I'd rather have an IC with both ports on one side. I'm not routing my charge air pipe over the turbo, and down beside the exhaust. I'm going to go down on the tranny side with the pre IC and back up the same side with the post IC pipes, keeping everything away from the exhaust heat.
http://i.imgur.com/Igjwva8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CnLeviW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cnTyx3P.jpg

andy
03-17-2016, 05:32 PM
Progress!

CollapsedNut
03-18-2016, 03:58 AM
I gotta say I'm getting pretty bummed about this project. It just seems like I've done all this work, and the results aren't gonna be anything special. It's still gonna be a slow FWD car. For fucks sake my 4Runner will probably beat it in a drag. I donno why I even bothered doing this but I'm in so deep I gotta finish it. I think I'm gonna stop worrying about have perfect IC routing, trunk mounted battery, and just all those little things in general because they just don't matter. Ima slap it together with what I have and be done. Maybe driving it will make me feel better about it, but I feel like this is just a lost cause.

Murgatroy
03-18-2016, 01:50 PM
So what?
Quit being a bitch.

If everyone wanted to go fast in a straight line they would buy Mustangs and Camaros. I mean lets be honest, if you started this project thinking that the car was going to be a door slamming bracket racer, you fucked up from the beginning.

The difference is that Mudhoney will be a blast to drive when she is done. She is a project and a car for fun. She isn't your daily driver. She isn't a work vehicle. She is designed, by you, to be fun.

When she starts up, it will have been fun and worth it. The experience alone is a good investment, even if a Honda makes more power cheaper, or a 4Runner is faster off the line. You don't have a cookie cutter car, you have something you built.

And that is why Chaos still lives in my garage. And will continue even if she never sees another part thrown at her. And she is a whole hell of a lot of fun to drive. She might not kick it sideways like Harmony does, but she screams down the road and gets all the attention. Good and bad.

andy
03-18-2016, 07:40 PM
You will be surprised how fast it is compared to an alltrac. The weight loss in the fwd is significant. You will have a good time in it. Bitch. I promise it will stomp your 4runner.

Nitro_Alltrac
03-18-2016, 09:28 PM
It will be a lot of fun Matt. You will enjoy it when you're done.

4thgenceli
03-18-2016, 10:01 PM
I hit that point with Jasmine too.

Then I started it for the first time.

Then drove it around the block

(then sold it 2 years later).

Shadowlife25
03-18-2016, 11:46 PM
Then you got a real alltrac. Faggot. :P :D

4thgenceli
03-18-2016, 11:56 PM
Hehehehehe.

CollapsedNut
03-27-2016, 03:24 AM
http://i.imgur.com/9wlbkT2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UOuxI65.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/h5DfNTQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PTe5jVf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wsJi3Mf.jpg

Nitro_Alltrac
03-27-2016, 04:50 PM
Coming along good Matt.

CollapsedNut
03-30-2016, 02:18 AM
I wanted a nice, manufactured PCV can but I'm cheap. So I bought this cheap china made one, and put in my own baffling. Shoulda bought a smaller one, but oh well. Good thing I opened it, cause there was metal shavings in it. Honestly donno if I'ma use it. Brand new engine, I better not have much oil in my PCV. May just stick an inline fuel filter for a lawnmower on the hose and call it macaroni.
http://i.imgur.com/jxBgsWR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LFA9Zjb.jpg
My stupid tamp sensor in the bottom of the radiator was dead center on the O2 sensor for my LC-2 making it where I couldn't plug in the sensor connector. Pulled the water neck off my 3sge and used it cause it has the sensor in it.
http://i.imgur.com/VX5HO1T.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KZT2lFo.jpg

4thgenceli
03-30-2016, 03:50 PM
I would just do a home depot/lowes special fliter. Think it ran like $10 in parts from the hardware store. It never had measurable oil in there, just a thin film.

CollapsedNut
03-31-2016, 03:18 AM
I don't want that though. Looks cheap and ugly. I wan't manufactured.

Murgatroy
03-31-2016, 03:09 PM
Mason jar.

CollapsedNut
04-01-2016, 03:22 AM
http://i.imgur.com/lyIz8Ju.jpg
Working on wiring in the cab today and yesterday. I wanted to add a fuse block that was keyed power to run gauges and the wideband controller and any other stuff down the line. So I put in a junction block, relay, and fuse block that that the fuse block is powered directly from battery but only when the key is on. I havent cleaned it up and mounted it yet so here's a picture of a mess with jumpers cables while I was testing tonight.
http://i.imgur.com/GozFTJY.jpg
I got the oil pressure and boost hoses ran and wiring for the gauge lights all done, and the wideband gauge wired. I hate it though. It's disgusting. So this is temporary until I decide another route.
http://i.imgur.com/fneCUKj.jpg

CollapsedNut
04-03-2016, 04:27 PM
I was like, why will it only run with the distributor wrapped way around like crazy
http://i.imgur.com/BIdRrQI.jpg
So I pull the valve cover and look at my timing. WTF mate. Was I drunk?
http://i.imgur.com/NRDgGSD.jpg
Ended up I was 180 degree off on the cams, lobes point outward at cyl1 TDC compression not inwards. SO I had to pull the cams and repin. This didn't work by the way, ended up going to work and using a real torch.
http://i.imgur.com/vgLdPRX.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qhZpyrAMZI

bloodMoney
04-04-2016, 11:18 PM
Does it choo choo yet?

CollapsedNut
04-05-2016, 03:51 AM
I made it idle tonight. Put the wheels back on. Realized I need a radiator fan, so ordered one. This weekend I'll take her to work and get the FMIC stuff done and cut out some floor rust while Ima at it.

bloodMoney
04-05-2016, 06:10 PM
Sweet! Take lots o pics.

85gtsblackman
04-07-2016, 03:47 AM
Crap you car is mobile, I have work to do

4thgenceli
04-07-2016, 03:48 PM
Crap you car is mobile, I have work to do

When my car is mobile -- that's when you have work to do.

85gtsblackman
04-08-2016, 03:51 AM
Well since last nov

Brought the truck back to life

Kept the 98 camry from death

Made the Lexus dailyable

If luck holds out I can get my hoist and 22rte drivetrain form the folks house.

5s car is next before the grand ending.

CollapsedNut
04-09-2016, 02:40 AM
Got it running good and everything, went to load it on the trailer to take it to work for welding stuff..no reverse. Even took the cables off the tranny and manually put it in, just grinds when you let the clutch out. Every other gear engages though. So fuck me right? I seriously can't catch a break on this car.

Murgatroy
04-09-2016, 12:30 PM
Fucking hairdressers.

CollapsedNut
04-10-2016, 06:30 AM
So Im looking at the S53 that was in Mud when I got her. I didn't use it because it was popping out of 2nd gear when coming on and off the throttle. The only thing I see that seems a little odd is that the shift hub for 2nd doesn't stay latched to the gear very well, but it does latch. There's 3 "keys" that are being pushed outward by the "spring" inside the hub, I was actually surprised this is exactly like my ford ranger tranny I rebuilt.
http://i.imgur.com/qOXZDJb.jpg
I'm wondering if the keys are worn or maybe the springs are weak. It latches into it's other gear fine though, so maybe the 2nd gear side of the hub is worn. I'll have to ruin the bearing to take the rest of the stack apart to actually see if it's worn, but there's no other way to know.
http://i.imgur.com/aFVi6b4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Sf9v7vo.jpg

CollapsedNut
04-12-2016, 02:44 AM
Well I donno for sure why this one was popping out of 2nd, but the shift detent notches are kinda worn, you can see the peaks are getting rounded off.
http://i.imgur.com/0WPclaC.jpg
And the shift collar for 2nd doesn't stay engaged against gravity, which I'm not sure if that's an issue or not. https://youtu.be/D_IKltAlD2M

CollapsedNut
04-22-2016, 01:01 AM
So I swapped the no reverse tranny for my other S53 for now so that's done. After I put the engine back in I was bleeding the cooling system and a valve started to make noise. So I pulled the valve cover and checked gaps, all in spec. Inspected all I can and can't find a reason for the tap. So Im'a let it ride for now. We're on spring planting hours at work now, which means I work 14 days straight with one day off for the next two months. Don't know how much time I'll have to work on the car but if I can just get the FMIC piping done I can drop it at the exhaust shop and be almost done.

The Captain
04-23-2016, 02:08 AM
Just buy Princess.

Done.

Nitro_Alltrac
04-23-2016, 04:31 PM
You're getting there Matt.

CollapsedNut
05-01-2016, 11:03 PM
https://youtu.be/m2f7xv8ierE

The Captain
05-02-2016, 02:38 AM
Nice tractor video.

CollapsedNut
05-12-2016, 02:53 AM
So I should add some pictures.
http://i.imgur.com/d51mlcs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VoHXqka.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hEu8CFu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IBggYKI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/r30kkCd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/atWtZpj.jpg
I went with 2 1/4" FMIC piping mainly because it fits a little better than 2.5". I don't see 2.25 being too small for this, so whatever. I don't have a BOV in yet, figure I'll get some testing out of the way first then pop one in. Ima use the HKS I got off of Bruce's car. Got her tagged and insured this week and actually drove around a little, it's extremely loud with the open downpipe so I didn't do much. I'm sure the cops can hear the turbo spool on the other side of town. At this current time I am running stock boost pressure, which is coming in around 10psi. Around 5500rpm it starts to creep up to 12 but that doesn't concern me for now. Im getting 10psi by 2700rpm which is pretty nice but I'm sure it will go up once I get the exhaust done next week. I'm still getting the fuel dialed in, I'm keeping it on the rich side for safety right now about 10.5:1. My brand new Innovate LC2 wideband seems to have shit the bed on me today, it's throwing a code for bad sensor so I sent an email to them tonight. Not too happy about that.

CollapsedNut
05-14-2016, 04:17 AM
Been trying to get ahold of Innovate support for three days with no luck. I thought they were better than this I guess. I hate to buy a new sensor and that not the be problem, so I donno.

CollapsedNut
05-25-2016, 04:17 AM
So I ditched the Innovate LC2 and bought an AEM UEGO. It's still working so thats good. I've logged almost 100 miles so far! Yesterday I gave her to the muffler shop for a full 3" system, with resonator and muffler. It took him a good while to get it all in, but I picked it up today and I'm pretty happy.
http://i.imgur.com/evY3imu.jpg
Went to a local car meet tonight and parked beside a space wedge 4agze. He was a cool guy. There's a Nissan GT-R, a pair of boosted Corvettes, several Evo's and WRX's, even an MR2 Spyder.
I'm still chasing a few issues, like getting the check engine light to stay off since I don't have any of the EGR system, I've got a huge box of assorted resistors once I figure out what I need to do. Maybe trick the EGR coolant temp signal into always being cold so it never tries to activate? And I'm getting super rich when it comes off of warm up idle, and even under boost I never get higher than 12:1. Sitting idle I'm at 10.5-11. I'm gonna replace the O2 sensor, cause it's cheap and mines old old old. I feel like some of my issues may be from not having the coolant hoses going to the IACV on the throttle body. I feel like I had read that you didn't need them and would not effect anything by not having them, but I'm starting to think the IACV needs that warm water. Even with the IACV unplugged, sometimes I idle at 1200rpm, sometimes I idle at 600rpm. It's weird. So maybe my IACV is bad or it needs the coolant.

CollapsedNut
05-25-2016, 04:36 AM
Note for me for later.
EGR temp below 129 degree off.

bloodMoney
05-26-2016, 04:11 PM
Are you going to come pick up your suspension stuff? If you are, I have an e153 for you too....

CollapsedNut
05-31-2016, 02:00 AM
I decided if I start patching one spot of rust after work once or twice a week I'll have it done soon. I hate body work stuff.
http://i.imgur.com/jLsDmPV.jpg
I spread some dog shit welds on it and called it macaroni.
http://i.imgur.com/PLpuJLk.jpg

bloodMoney
05-31-2016, 08:41 PM
Is it just me, or is there still a hole on the outboard side?

Nitro_Alltrac
06-01-2016, 12:15 AM
Right there with you Matt. I'm doing some of that crap right now.

CollapsedNut
06-01-2016, 02:55 AM
There's still a hole. Too much factory silicone in the corner to be able to weld, and I can't get it all dug out easily. Basically if the wire wheel on my grinder can't get in there, it doesn't get done lol. Ima just fill it in with silicone again, it's just a cavity into the rocker.

CollapsedNut
06-07-2016, 02:42 AM
350 miles logged. Beat on her pretty hard tonight. Boosting to 15psi. Can't launch hard cause I don't wanna blow up my S53 yet, so my average 0 to 60 was 8.2 seconds. Best was 7.74.
15psi is not my choice, I've got really bad boost creep. It may have to do with my wonky wastegate mounting, but I'm not gonna worry about it right now.

bloodMoney
06-07-2016, 01:56 PM
video.

4thgenceli
06-07-2016, 02:16 PM
350 miles logged. Beat on her pretty hard tonight. Boosting to 15psi. Can't launch hard cause I don't wanna blow up my S53 yet, so my average 0 to 60 was 8.2 seconds. Best was 7.74.
15psi is not my choice, I've got really bad boost creep. It may have to do with my wonky wastegate mounting, but I'm not gonna worry about it right now.

I'd get that wastegate figured out. I blew my turbo due to wonky wastegate mounting.

CollapsedNut
06-07-2016, 10:37 PM
Eh. It won't be in there long. I'm all ready planning for the next swap. I'm not a auto cross racer, a responsive 4cyl means nothing to me. Need more cylinders. More turbos. More everything.

4thgenceli
06-07-2016, 11:18 PM
Well you can send the gen1 motor, ecu and harness my way then :P

CollapsedNut
06-08-2016, 03:48 AM
I finally swapped to my 165 cluster. Donno why really, guess I just wanted a proper tach with redline in it's correct location. I also put two led's in it for wiring into the tvsv circuit for a getto knock detection system. I ended up only using one LED for the knock system, so I guess I have a spare for something else.
http://i.imgur.com/Yk9eZo7.jpg
If you're like me and cannot stand bright lights inside your car, get you a big box of resistors. I dimmed the LED's waaaaayyyyyy down.
http://i.imgur.com/nS8OegE.jpg

The Captain
06-09-2016, 02:19 AM
OMG whatever you do, DO NOT separate those resistors.




http://i.imgur.com/PLpuJLk.jpg
Looks suspiciously like John Deere yellow.

Redneck.

CollapsedNut
06-09-2016, 05:10 AM
I already almost got two mixed up, but then I stopped and made the rule one bag open at a time.
And to be correct, that's john deere buff primer. Whatever buff primer means. All I know is that stuff lays excellent and top coats stick to it like stink on shit.

CollapsedNut
06-09-2016, 05:13 AM
Latest bay pic
http://i.imgur.com/byT2Mil.jpg
I'm getting tired of boost creep, and it's somewhat to a dangerous level, so tonight I took the turbo off and ported the wastegate hole.
http://i.imgur.com/zdWLt7z.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fLIhSjG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/N1GOdot.jpg
Don't worry about the hole not being perfectly round, I didn't.
Still getting creep but not as bad, seems to be stopping around 12psi rather than the 15 I was getting. So it helped, but it's still stupid.

Murgatroy
06-09-2016, 04:48 PM
I already almost got two mixed up, but then I stopped and made the rule one bag open at a time.

Bad Beer Rots Our Yellow Guts But Vino Goes Well.

Black Brown Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Violet Grey White.

0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9

x1|x10|x100|x1000|x10,000|x100,000|x1,000,000|x10, 000,000|x100,000,000|x1,000,000,000

The first color is the first number, the second color is your second number. If there are five bands the third color is your third number.
The third color is your (fourth if five) is your decimal multiplier.
The last band is your tolerance.

Thus a Red Blue Orange Brown resistor bands would be a 26k ohm resistor with a +- tolerance of 1%.

4thgenceli
06-09-2016, 05:36 PM
Bad Beer Rots Our Yellow Guts But Vino Goes Well.

Black Brown Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Violet Grey White.

0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9

x1|x10|x100|x1000|x10,000|x100,000|x1,000,000|x10, 000,000|x100,000,000|x1,000,000,000

The first color is the first number, the second color is your second number. If there are five bands the third color is your third number.
The third color is your (fourth if five) is your decimal multiplier.
The last band is your tolerance.

Thus a Red Blue Orange Brown resistor bands would be a 26k ohm resistor with a +- tolerance of 1%.

Gold.

donteatbugs
06-10-2016, 10:35 AM
gold is usually 5%

bloodMoney
06-10-2016, 01:03 PM
gold is usually 5%

lol

CollapsedNut
06-10-2016, 05:36 PM
Silly kids