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Grot
01-22-2011, 03:48 AM
Is now the proud owner of a seventh gen... Pics to come tomorrow.

Car_Barn_Bandit
01-22-2011, 04:01 AM
Color? Body? Congrats!

187flatliner
01-22-2011, 04:17 AM
did you trade that 86 for a newer model?

Hookecho
01-22-2011, 05:10 AM
Woot! GT or GTS.

Grot
01-23-2011, 03:37 AM
Its an Seventh gen Ford F150. a 1982.

Has a 300 Straight 6, with a 4 speed manual.

Ugly tan and dark brown 2-tone. Has the Explorer Package.

Love it already. Needs Carb adjustment bad though, gettin like 6-8 MPG

187flatliner
01-23-2011, 03:50 AM
i thought you said you were posting pics.......



and why lead us on about 7th gen...you knew when you said that we all would assume a celica...........






you ass.....j/p

Grot
01-23-2011, 03:55 AM
Thats exactally why i did it.

I didnt have time to take pics. Went shooting this morning then went to work. Pics tomorrow i promise.

Facime
01-23-2011, 03:59 AM
lol, I was totally fooled. I bet its the same color as my new f250?
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs077.snc6/168727_178368138869245_100000881806029_363142_3297 05_n.jpg

mine is the 460/auto though. I would actually like the 300/6, thats a good motor and has more torque than most people think. That should be getting 14-16 city at least. just get her tuned to perfection and it should be pretty trouble free.

Grot
01-23-2011, 04:02 AM
Same color Combo.

Mines is tan from the bumper line up though.

And that reason is exactly why i got the 300/6 over the 302/8.

Gas mileage and more torque.

Good looking truck.

I forgot to add the PO claimed it had 72k Original miles.

Facime
01-23-2011, 04:24 AM
lol, mine claims to be 52K original. Its hard to say for sure. The e=brake pad looks factory new pristine and the gas pedal is nearly the same, the only pedal pad wear is the brake and Ive seen 100K vehicles with more wear. :dunno:
The interior on mine is typical PacNW, musty but with almost no sun damage.

So is yours like mine, an XL meaning Xtra Lame when it came to options? I have intermitent wipers and a dealer add-on cruise control, but no tilt wheel and a freaking AM radio...NO FM!!, lol. I love the vinyl floors though. I just hosed it out today and let it drip dry.

Its really hard to beat a good old Ford pickup.

bzdweezy
01-23-2011, 04:28 AM
Yeah i thought it was a Celi too haha but congrats on the new trucka

Grot
01-23-2011, 04:30 AM
I have a Explorer trim. higher geared rear end, an AM/FM radio, chrome bumpers, chrome fender well trim, and a chrome grill.

I have a dark brown interior with leather seats, with dark brown and tan plaid seats. woodgrain interior panels.

Its a non-ac truck tho. i have carpet, i wish i had the vinyl.

I have yet to figure out how to work my wipers and horn.

My interior is Mint but all 3 of my pedals show moderate to heavy wear. and my e brake does not work at all. Have to use my transmission.

Nitro_Alltrac
01-23-2011, 04:34 AM
Nice find Aaron. I'm looking forward to the pictures.

Facime
01-23-2011, 04:41 AM
Ive never heard of the "explorer" trim. Yes, pics please.

Grot
01-23-2011, 04:44 AM
Will do. Shes dirty and kinda rusty. and has a Grandpa camper top on it. i want to take it off but dont have anywhere to store it.

Facime
01-23-2011, 04:48 AM
lol mine had a camper shell too..I unbolted it out in the woods and then stomped on the gas to get rid of it....



not really. Its on CL in the FREE section now.

Grot
01-23-2011, 04:49 AM
My ranger had one on it and i loved it. it was color matched fiberglass tho. the one on my 150 is dark brown aluminium. im gonna put it for sale for 50 bucks.

Nitro_Alltrac
01-23-2011, 04:50 AM
Ive never heard of the "explorer" trim. Yes, pics please.

I'm not sure what it looked like in 82 but in the late 70's Ford had the Explorer package on the F series. On those, the exterior part at least, consisted of a stripe, usually black, that went across the cowl and then down the sides of the truck stopping just short of the end of the bedside. They also had a hood ornament that said "Explorer". I think they sometimes came with bed rails. I don't know if it was a national trim package or just something they did in the east. I haven't seen one in years.

Facime
01-23-2011, 04:58 AM
I thought that was the "Ranger" ?

Grot
01-23-2011, 04:58 AM
Mine has some stripes down the bedside and says explorer on the very back of the bed on both sides. no hood ornament.

CriScO
01-23-2011, 05:11 AM
I'm not sure what it looked like in 82 but in the late 70's Ford had the Explorer package on the F series. On those, the exterior part at least, consisted of a stripe, usually black, that went across the cowl and then down the sides of the truck stopping just short of the end of the bedside. They also had a hood ornament that said "Explorer". I think they sometimes came with bed rails. I don't know if it was a national trim package or just something they did in the east. I haven't seen one in years.
There's a few around here, I doubt it was a regional thing.

Nitro_Alltrac
01-23-2011, 05:17 AM
Facime, you're right. The Explorer package had the stripes down both sides. The Range went across the hood. Here's a link to a decent picture of a 70's Explorer package.

http://www.carster.com/car-pictures/1977/ford/f-150/1977-Ford-F-150-170534036085/

Grot
01-23-2011, 05:23 AM
Also I have some wires that have been chewed through. And it sounds like I have a major vacuum leak at the brake booster. Whole driving there is a hiss coming from right in front of you.

Murgatroy
01-23-2011, 05:33 AM
I had an `81 with the 300ci/4-speed.

It was alright, but the motor was bugged. I couldn't keep it running right, and it fowled plugs daily. I seriously kept a small can of carb cleaner just to make it to and from work with the plugs. I would pull them and clean them before I would move the truck.

Grot
01-23-2011, 05:24 PM
As promised heres pictures

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0516.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0517.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0518.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0519.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0521.jpg

These pedals look dont look like 72k miles. The keys dont either. all detail is worn off
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0522.jpg

Random light hanging down. Missing ashtray?
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0523.jpg

Rigged glovebox latch
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0524.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0525.jpg

Chewed through wires
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0526.jpg

Random connectors
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0527.jpg

Carb Pictures. Best i could do without taking the airbox thing apart
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0528.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0529.jpg

Aftermarket Clock/Tach. Clock works, Tach does not.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kingn0thing013/82%20F150%20Explorer/DSCF0530.jpg

Hookecho
01-23-2011, 05:38 PM
OMG!

Eric Barrera
01-23-2011, 05:45 PM
How much did you pay for this?

Facime
01-23-2011, 06:43 PM
Those "random chewed through wires" are not wires, they are in fact vacuum lines.

And thats definately not 72k.

The interior reminds me of my parents family room from the 70's, I like it! ;)

Nitro_Alltrac
01-23-2011, 09:01 PM
Damn, that this is straight out of the 80's. Nice truck Aaron. I think you did well on that. I like the Paw Paw topper!

Hookecho
01-23-2011, 09:17 PM
I feel dusty just by looking at the picture.

Car_Barn_Bandit
01-23-2011, 09:32 PM
I feel dusty just by looking at the picture.

It def makes you want to pull on your tightest pair of flared levis, your cleanest buttoned plaid shirt and go line dancing with your woman.

Hookecho
01-24-2011, 12:15 AM
^ Lolz!

Grot
01-24-2011, 12:18 AM
Those "random chewed through wires" are not wires, they are in fact vacuum lines.

And thats definately not 72k.

The interior reminds me of my parents family room from the 70's, I like it! ;)


Thats what i thought on the mileage. 172k looks more accurate.

Any idea what that Vacuum is for? could that have to do with the hissing noise?

I like the interior thank you.

Facime
01-24-2011, 12:32 AM
Ford has used tohse type of vacuum lines forever (and I believe still do). They run everything from emissions to interior climate controls with those colored vac lines. I see a VSV right there in that picture that looks like those lines go to, but without a diagram I couldnt tell you specifically what any of them do or whether they are contributing to a vac leak. I would start with a couple dozen vacuum caps and start plugging any thing that looks like an open hole. and go from there.

Grot
01-24-2011, 12:33 AM
That might explain why my heat doesnt work that well.

Could any of that contribute to the carb dumping fuel?

Edit: i found this (http://www.fordf150.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=49495) tells me a little. i will have to work on my vacuum system before i do the carb to make sure i dont waste money.

Can i redo all the lines in regular vac hose or does it have to be that same type of hard lines like Ford used?

Also i dont believe my vacuum sticker is there anymore.

Facime
01-24-2011, 12:39 AM
Its entirely possible they are affecting your heater controls. Im doubtful a bad vac leak will make you dump tons of fuel down the throat. It would be the other way around, less manifold vacuum (due to the leaking) should make the carb dump less fuel and lean the system out since there is no computer engine managment. But...none of that is helping it either. You need a vacuum diagram for it and to systematically go through it. I'll help with what I can, but as a member of Ford-trucks.com myself, that is probably the best forum I know for knowledge base on the subject.

Grot
01-24-2011, 12:43 AM
Im googling for a diagram right now. i think most everything is there. just split.

I will go get a good length of Vac hose and see if i can fix that first.

Facime
01-24-2011, 12:48 AM
Take a piece of the old plastic line with you and see if you can get a rubber hose that will fit tightly over that, that way all you need to do is patch the breaks. The thing Ive found about that ford vac lines stuff is that it is really quire durable. It doesnt seem to get brittle and break or rot and split like other materials Ive seen used in factory systems. Patching would save some effort and material, but might be hard to find all the leaks.

alltracman78
01-24-2011, 01:05 AM
That's actually a BVSV[Bimetal Vaccum Switching Valve]. I'm only pointing it out because instead of electrical control coolant temp controls what is open and when.
In addition to that effecting your heat it probably is effecting your carb. I'm guessing it controls the fueling [Instead of a computer to adjust fuel flow carbs can have mechanical things to control. And, FYI they can also be controlled by computers.]. For example if that's set up to open your choke [top throttle plate and round fat thing offset to the top of the carb, it makes the mix richer during cold operation] once the engine is warm, the choke is probably closed, even when it's warm. This would cause it to run really rich. I'm not sure if the hose going to the choke is coolant or vaccum, but it looks like it has 2 small lines running to other parts of the carb. So I wouldn't just plug them all yet. Find out where they go [Ford MIGHT still have your vaccum sticker available, but I wouldn't hold your breath] and fix what needs fixing.
As far as replacing the vaccum lines, changing the internal size will change the vaccum "signal" that controls things. A slight change probably won't matter, but those are pretty small. And, that plastic vaccum line is available aftermarket. It's pretty common, GM using it too. You just won't know which line goes where because they're usually black [unless you mark them].

Hipster Lawrence
01-24-2011, 01:18 AM
Nice I had a 75 with a straight 6 great truck but it was manual everything. My current truck is a 79 302 its ok but the 302 is gutless in comparison much better on the highway though and the 302 gets better mileage. I also have AC and power steering now.

The explorer package is emblems and stripes from what I can tell (mine is an explorer)
The ranger package is the top of the line chrome or bright metal trim nicer wheel covers etc.

Grot
01-24-2011, 01:20 AM
Thanks for the info. Would i be better emailing ford or going to the dealership to try to find my sticker.

Grot
01-24-2011, 01:21 AM
Nice I had a 75 with a straight 6 great truck but it was manual everything. My current truck is a 79 302 its ok but the 302 is gutless in comparison much better on the highway though and the 302 gets better mileage. I also have AC and power steering now.

The explorer package is emblems and stripes from what I can tell (mine is an explorer)
The ranger package is the top of the line chrome or bright metal trim nicer wheel covers etc.


There are 5 or 6 different Explorer packages.

They can include all the Ranger trim as well.

Facime
01-24-2011, 01:41 AM
The 82 has no computer controlled components. That carb is extremely basic and has been around since the 40's in one form or another. Changing hose diameter in that system wont affect function (It may affect the speed at which something functions, like how long it takes for the temp door on the heat to move, but thats on the extreme end of things). Primitive systems like that ford have 3 options, no vac/manifold vac/ported vac. I know of no vacuum limiters in the old folds, only one way valves like for brake boost.

Ive looked at the diagram for that carb and as far as I can see there is nothing vac operated on it. Idle A/F is screw adjusted and the main circuit is a metering rod...about as basic a design as you will find. In any case the place to start is to get neccessary vacuum accesories plumbed correctly and everything else plugged first, then assess where things are at from there.

I could strip, clean and rebuild that carb in about 30minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD4zs7VOp7Y

Blackcloud
01-24-2011, 04:17 AM
I thouhgt you said it was a diesel?

Grot
01-24-2011, 04:21 AM
I thouhgt you said it was a diesel?

Thats not what i named the thread. i assumed you changed it.

I have no idea.

Hookecho
01-24-2011, 04:28 AM
cough..

Hookecho
01-24-2011, 04:29 AM
The 300 is nicknamed the poor mans diesel motor. cause it's so darn tough.

Grot
01-24-2011, 04:32 AM
Its a strong motor. She will get up and run with that Granny gear.

That 4 speed is geared so strange though.

Blackcloud
01-24-2011, 04:34 AM
i didnt change it

i was all excited to see another diesel too :(

Grot
01-24-2011, 04:37 AM
Id love to have a diesel. they arent in my price range though.

Blackcloud
01-24-2011, 04:39 AM
you can get a good one for the low 20s now

Grot
01-24-2011, 04:42 AM
My price range is low 2s.

Id love to have a mid 90s 7.3 powerstroke.

Maybe on my next truck.

Luni
01-24-2011, 04:47 AM
That truck has a damn good engine in it.

Blackcloud
01-24-2011, 04:48 AM
ugh.. dear god.. stay away from them.

Grot
01-24-2011, 04:49 AM
Precisely why i got the 300/6 over the 302/8 The higher torque make it much more usable power.

Luni
01-24-2011, 04:50 AM
I meant Grots current truck, the inline 6 ford. You fuckers were posting while I was posting.

Murgatroy
01-24-2011, 04:56 AM
Its a strong motor. She will get up and run with that Granny gear.

That 4 speed is geared so strange though.

That is because it is a three speed with granny gear.

Granny is not first, granny is for grunt and pull.

Grot
01-24-2011, 04:58 AM
Its a 3 speed with OD. dunno if it what your are talking about, but 1st feels like a granny gear to me. it pretty short. and if your on flat ground tarting from 2nd is no problem just slightly sluggish.

Murgatroy
01-24-2011, 05:01 AM
There were several different trannies with those trucks. Most were 'four' speeds. They had either a granny (meaning a true four speed, but three usable in real world apps) or an OD (meaning four usable, but the OD was useless below 50+MPH.) The last was a dedicated four speed, which was rare.

Grot
01-24-2011, 05:03 AM
Ive got an OD. and yes it is useless almost below 60. 1st will go til 25ish 2nd to 40ish 3rd is taller to 60-70 then OD

Murgatroy
01-24-2011, 05:05 AM
Be a man, find you an old three on the tree and learn to row a truck.

My first truck and first manual was an old three on the tree. Straight up Hoss.

I still remember being schooled by my cousin's Pawpaw when the linkage hung and I had to drive home in first.

Grot
01-24-2011, 05:07 AM
Ive never even seen a tree shifted manual. id love to try one sometime.

Blackcloud
01-24-2011, 05:38 AM
ive never tried one either. but would like to try


but not sure id want to give up my ally

Grot
01-24-2011, 09:30 PM
Got my vacuum system back together today.

Truck runs smoother, heat works.

Need to see about adjusting my AFR though.