View Full Version : Wanna guess what I'm up to?

01-18-2011, 03:41 AM

01-18-2011, 03:47 AM
yeah your finally switching to a manual

01-18-2011, 05:01 AM

01-18-2011, 05:10 AM
Putting an intake on your mower!!

Are you doing a write up? I need to do a tranny swap in my 5th gen...maybe this summer
Goood luck!

01-18-2011, 05:12 AM
Making your garden tractor a 5speed? badass!

01-18-2011, 05:21 AM
About damned time!

01-18-2011, 05:51 AM
Kinky S&M with sleeved cables? What's the safe word? Using tranny oil for lube?

01-18-2011, 08:10 AM
Awh snapz!

01-18-2011, 08:45 AM
bunch of fucking degenerate smartasses around here huh?

01-18-2011, 09:37 AM
^ Lol

01-18-2011, 12:45 PM
Making your garden tractor a 5speed? badass!

Nah, the mower already has a factory installed 6 speed.:biggthumpup:

01-18-2011, 02:13 PM
Nah, the mower already has a factory installed 6 speed.:biggthumpup:

Yes, but will the factory tranny handle the boosted setup you've been talking about...


Yard and neighbors yard, mOWND, with minimum grass burn in under 3 minutes. ::grunts::

01-18-2011, 02:16 PM
Manual swap is always fun

01-18-2011, 03:01 PM
The only bad part is that I had my engine harness run through the hole where the clutch master cylinder goes. So I am going to have to drill me a new hole somewhere.

01-18-2011, 03:35 PM
well, sometimes you have to do things the hard way. Did the auto die?

01-18-2011, 04:11 PM
Dont think so. he found a deal on a maunal tranny

01-18-2011, 08:57 PM
The auto trans was doing just fine. It just didn't feel like a sports car to me.

My buddy had a wrecked 91 Celica ST and he let me rob everything i needed for the conversion. I then found an S53 for $65 at pull a part.

I have the conversion pretty much done. As soon as I get a clutch disc and throw out bearing I'll install the transmission. Then drive that mofo.

01-18-2011, 09:17 PM
But... But... what about your push button shifting? Aren't you gonna miss that?

I think a manual will be way more fun though.

01-18-2011, 09:56 PM
I still think it would have been cool to have a 7th gen GTS steering wheel with the auto fail buttons on the back of the wheel!

But manual is the way Brucie.

You know, your shifter cables might be different between an ST and a GT..

Have you asked around about that?

01-18-2011, 11:14 PM
You know, your shifter cables might be different between an ST and a GT..

Have you asked around about that?
I was thinking the same thing, since the STs use a C50 manual Transmission.

01-18-2011, 11:50 PM
Yeah, I thought about the cables and looked up the part #'s. Both the GT and ST have the same 33821 part number for the shifter cables. The second set of #s are different. Not sure what that means but I'm more or less hoping that i can use them. They look to be the right length. I took some measurements after installing them through the fire wall. We'll see.

33821‑20671 AT180..MTM (09/1989 - 07/1991) 1 $260.95
33821‑20890 AT180..MTM (08/1991 - 08/1993) 1 $261.36

33821‑20681 ST184..MTM (09/1989 - 08/1990) 1 $233.29
33821‑20682 ST184..MTM (09/1990 - 07/1991) 1 $260.95

01-19-2011, 01:45 AM
I know on an MR2 turbo vs non, the shifter cables are slightly different enought to affect your shifting/make it not work.

I know the Celica swap guys have to use alltrac shifter cables if they switch to an E153.

So, I really think you might have to use the cables for a GT/GTS brucie.

01-19-2011, 01:48 AM
That will suck. I hate spending money and not having a gun to show for it.

01-19-2011, 01:52 AM
I'm sure there is a difference though. Whether or not they'll work idk. Where can I buy some cables that don't cost $200,

01-19-2011, 02:46 AM
Finding a part out is the best bet.

01-19-2011, 11:55 PM
So I decided that I wanted to test the ST/C52 cables and see if they would work. I mounted the transmission on the trans jack and lifted into place just so I could do so. The cables didn't recess far enough in to the cable mounts on the trans for me to install the retaining clip. So that is how they are different from the GT/S53 cables. Wish I had thought to check it before installing them. Luckily I didn't reinstall all of the interior pieces and pulled them out in 5 minutes. Other than that they are the right length.

So I took the the cables over to the belt sander and fixed the problem. I reinstalled them and was able to lock the retaining clip on. All gears shift and lock perfectly with no binding.

01-20-2011, 01:51 AM
Hopefully the cables are the correct length and positioning sir.

If they are, should be great.

01-20-2011, 02:10 AM
They worked fine during mock up. trans was bolted up. I wonder if the ones from the 89 Celica I got the trans from would work. Might be worth $10 to find out. I'll wait to see if the lead on those 5th Gen GT cables pans out.

01-20-2011, 03:07 AM
Hey, when you had the trans mocked up, did you check your axle lengths?

01-20-2011, 03:19 AM
I didn't bother. The axles for the auto trans and manual trans are exactly the same. The conversions others have done have used their auto trans axles. The part #'s are the same for both.

01-20-2011, 03:46 PM
Just for future reference on the part numbers, the first five numbers are always just a group number, afaik. When the last five are different it can mean a lot of things, from minor differences in a mounting bracket to the possibility of being exactly the same if they happen to be a superceded number. So really unless you have an updated EPC to reference you can't tell from the PN if something will be interchangeable or not unless all ten numbers are exactly the same.

Also Manual transmission is definitely about time!

Mr. Babb
01-20-2011, 04:16 PM
I have to say I thought the auto trans was pretty sweet, especially with the push button shift. It had a nice pull to it and never left boost.

01-20-2011, 04:47 PM
Yeah, I really can't complain much about the auto trans. In the back of my mind I kept wondering if I was feeling the full potential of the motor. Plus, without having the ecu controling the transmission I was not benefiting from torque converter lockup which was killing me on gas. I could have wired a switch to manually control the solenoid that operates lock up but if I had to step on the brakes suddenly without disengaging lock up I would have damaged the transmission. Same goes for accelerating with lock up engaged. I also felt like the auto trans shifted slowly using the push button method. There was a very noticeable lag between up shifts. Without the ECU I had no squat control either. All of this could have been solved if I wanted to invest in a stand alone ECU.

It was a cool experience and I can say that I did it. However, the 5 speed is a better trans to have. I want a better driving experience.

01-24-2011, 10:15 PM
I want a better driving experience.
Did you do marketing for toyota in the 80's?

Eric Barrera
01-24-2011, 10:46 PM
Did you do marketing for toyota in the 80's?

Win, and about fucking time for the swap. I want pics

01-25-2011, 12:52 AM
I'm going to get a project thread going.