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T-spoon
07-26-2010, 04:23 AM
I have decided to actually go ahead with a 2jz swap and while I am at it am going to freshen up a few things. I intend to replace the dash pad which is badly cracked and worn along with the steering wheel and clean up the dash wiring. It has many years of shops like Mobile One installing aftermarket alarm, remote start, gauges etc. and the wiring just looks dreadful and has left a few things not working wonderfully. I'll also be looking to replace the housing for one of the side mirrors that was broken by vandals, and probably do all of the window/windshield/hatch trip pieces which get worn out and ugly over the years. If I can find a good set of rear seat backs in burgundy, I'll do those too, so if anyone knows of a parts car in the seattle area with the burgundy leather interior.. let me know! (the front seats and door panels were professionally re-covered and look great so I want the rest of the interior to match).

The wife and I started today by pulling the old dash. Fair amount of work but done! I'll be posting pics in the next couple days and you'll see what I mean about the awful rat nest of wiring.

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"Before" pic of engine bay, project start:
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinkyandkumho029.jpg
"Before" pic of interior. Not bad, but want it better. Actually, can't see the top of the dash or the back seats in this pic, so it looks great! Hah!
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinkyandkumho024.jpg

burnyd
07-26-2010, 04:37 AM
Does it have the supra monitor!?!?!?

awesome you decided to go with a 2jz

T-spoon
07-26-2010, 04:55 AM
Grand canyon running down my dashboard, and the reason I took it out.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/006.jpg

Several pics of the dash out and a lot of wiring to go through and clean up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/SupraDash001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/SupraDash002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/SupraDash003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/SupraDash004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/005.jpg

Annnd some parts just hanging out on the shelves waiting to go back in later.. how exciting..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/008.jpg

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Does it have the supra monitor!?!?!?

awesome you decided to go with a 2jz

Sure does have the monitor! I'll see if I can find an hvac control unit in better shape (though mine isn't terrible) too.

And yeah, I'm stoked about the 2j. I intend to use the turbo off the 7M, so I'll just need to get an aftermarket manifold for the 2j and should be good to go. I may be able to drop in my larger injectors too and get rid of the AFM right away with the MapECU2. I know it's sometimes better to do things incrementally to make sure it works, but I'd really rather do things while everything is apart and easy to work on.[COLOR="Silver"]

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Why did my wife take this picture? No idea. I'm glad the windshield is dirty though! :hehe:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/009.jpg

Grot
07-26-2010, 05:23 AM
That wiring is one hell of a mess. im glad that is your problem and not mine :P

But you should completely document the 2j swap. im thinking about getting an mk2 or mk3 supra once i get the Celi running.

burnyd
07-26-2010, 05:58 AM
wow what over engineered wiring in that thing!

The Captain
07-26-2010, 03:12 PM
That wiring is one hell of a mess. .
Now I know why that car weighs 3800 pounds!

Siyx
07-26-2010, 03:27 PM
Too bad you didn't do this a few months ago, i just gave away my 87 Soupy. Could have given you whatever you needed, including a decent dash and HVAC unit (only one button had a crack in the overlay). It was burgundy interior as well. If you need any parts let me know. The guy I gave it to restores Supra's and has everything from MKI's to MKIV's lying around his shop.

alltracNyx
07-26-2010, 03:55 PM
Wiring nightmare indeed...I'm glad you're taking the time to fix it :) I don't have any cracks in the dash on the st165, but I'll probably remove the dash just the same to check out the wiring and clean everything up.

T-spoon
07-26-2010, 05:43 PM
Now I know why that car weighs 3800 pounds!

Awww come on, it's probably more like 3500 tops.. total lightweight!

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The guy I gave it to restores Supra's and has everything from MKI's to MKIV's lying around his shop.

Ah, that is too bad on the timing but it's ok, I just wasn't really able to do it sooner. I'd definitely be interested in the right side mirror housing if he has a silver or gray one (mirror itself is fine, just the housing was broken). Could use a steering wheel in good shape too, I've got a cover on mine because it's so worn. I'm going to try to find a dash locally since it's a gigantic item to try shipping.

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Wiring nightmare indeed...I'm glad you're taking the time to fix it :) I don't have any cracks in the dash on the st165, but I'll probably remove the dash just the same to check out the wiring and clean everything up.

Yeah, luckily my 165 interior is in superb condition.. now if only it will hold together mechanically... eeeek! I don't need both cars in full project mode at once.

andy
07-26-2010, 06:49 PM
woot supras. i have a spare super monitor and box if you need it!

T-spoon
07-27-2010, 12:55 AM
I got some more done today. Took a break from wiring to start pulling the 7M out.

Draining fluids. Whee.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/7m_removal_002.jpg

Top IC piping out of the way.. now where to begin...
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/7m_removal_001_151328.jpg

Ah, how bout with the exhaust side? One good thing about I6 layout is that it's pretty easy to clear up one side, then the other in a semi-orderly fashion. I hope to be able to use this radiator with the 2j. The upper rad hoses are very similar, not sure about the lower, but should be able to work something out.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/7m_removal_004.jpg

Oh hi, it's a turbo! Not a "BFT" I guess, but it's plenty big enough to start things off on the 2J. Seems to be in good shape still, very little shaft play.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/7m_removal_005.jpg

If I'm not mistaken, this is a pretty standard T4 style flange? My plan is to get an ebay single turbo manifold for the 2J which should be pretty straight forward.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/7m_removal_006.jpg

Exhaust side looking pretty empty. Next time I go in I'll do the same to the intake side, get the manifold out and make sure nothing is left connected to the motor to get it ready for pulling.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/7m_removal_007.jpg

burnyd
07-27-2010, 03:27 AM
cool oil cap

T-spoon
07-27-2010, 06:23 AM
cool oil cap

Mmm, yep. Another major performance part that will go on the new motor too. :hehe:

Naemion
07-27-2010, 02:27 PM
That's gotta be 5 horses right there, hehe.

Siyx
07-27-2010, 02:59 PM
Hey T-Spoon if you're looking for parts call this guy. Unfortunately he is in Waterloo Ontario but he ships worldwide.
His name is Phil, you can tell him I told you to call (Adrian). He may just give you a better price!(he gave me a ton of parts in the past for free, hence why I "donated" my car to him) Phil @ Adrenaline Motorsports 1-519-590-6548
I know most of his MKIII interior stuff is burgundy, not sure about exterior parts like the mirror but I wouldn't doubt it if he has it.

Hookecho
07-27-2010, 03:16 PM
Ahh, this will be a nice swap. I'll be following your progress. Have you already bought the 2j motor? Will the 2j bolt to the 7mgte transmission?

T-spoon
07-27-2010, 04:48 PM
Hey T-Spoon if you're looking for parts call this guy. Unfortunately he is in Waterloo Ontario but he ships worldwide.
His name is Phil, you can tell him I told you to call (Adrian). He may just give you a better price!(he gave me a ton of parts in the past for free, hence why I "donated" my car to him) Phil @ Adrenaline Motorsports 1-519-590-6548
I know most of his MKIII interior stuff is burgundy, not sure about exterior parts like the mirror but I wouldn't doubt it if he has it.

Thanks a lot for the info, I probably will give him a call at some point. :)

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Ahh, this will be a nice swap. I'll be following your progress. Have you already bought the 2j motor? Will the 2j bolt to the 7mgte transmission?

I haven't got the 2j yet but basically have it lined up. There's a local place that sells them for a really great price, they just don't have any right at the moment. For the transmission, yeah, it requires that I swap to a 1J bell housing, which I believe Tweak can get (I'll be sending him harnesses after I get the 2J). If I could find a 2J 6spd (Getrag) for really cheap and in good shape, obviously I'd do that, but there's no way that would happen, so my 5spd should be fine.

KoreanJoey
07-28-2010, 03:44 AM
PS: Foreign Engines in Lynnwood can also import OEM Toyota Japan parts.

T-spoon
07-28-2010, 05:06 AM
Ah, good to know, Joey, thanks :)

T-spoon
08-02-2010, 07:07 AM
Got a little more done today. It LOOKS like less work than the other days but believe you me it was not! Getting the wiring harness out with the intake manifold was not much fun. There was an irritating wire running between plenum runners down to a connector on top of the transmission in the tunnel under the car. *shudder*

Here are some pics of that progress:

Harness out and ready to send to Tweak when I get the 2J harness.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/7mharness.jpg

Couple shots of the Intake manifold and harness out of the way. I also pulled out most of the vacuum lines and some old wiring that wasn't used anymore (HKS VPC harness and Apex'i AVCR).
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/intakesideclean2.jpg
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/intakesideclean.jpg

Not much left connected now; AC lines, Power steering, and oil cooler. Should be able to get the 7M out once I acquire a hoist and engine stand. At that point I'll tackle the dash wiring mess while waiting for a 2J.

T-spoon
08-03-2010, 12:46 AM
I also made the decision today that I will not be attempting to keep AC. It's one less item to deal with in the swap, it's almost never needed around here, and it frees up a lot of space in the front end. It will make swapping Intercoolers easier (have to change anyway from the 7m inlet and outlet on the same side to the more standard inlet right, outlet left setup) and that's one fewer things to restrict airflow which is a plus for a MKIII. I pulled the condenser, dryer and most of the lines out today, as well as the rest of the IC piping.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/ac_gone_102063.jpg

T-spoon
08-03-2010, 06:17 AM
Started cleaning up the wiring mess. One of the big problems is that when wiring jobs and electronics were added to the car, people just put stuff where they could reach it easily and didn't make much effort to make it tidy. It was all just kind of stuffed up onto the cover panel under the steering wheel.

I am re-routing everything that I can to better places; up into the upper dash area where there is a ton of space, and looking for places to conceal and mount electronics boxes. The footrest is partially hollow and I found that a control unit for a Greddy electronic gauge will JUST fit inside with space for the wires to run out of it.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/hiding_wiring.jpg

The second control unit should sit on top of the footrest and be nicely out of the way. Once I have all the panels back in, I will see how far over I can get it to tuck, and then I'll secure it to the top of the footrest. This way the boxes are out of the way, the wiring neatly goes up the wall and to the a-pillar pods but I can still access them anytime without removing anything but the footrest.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/hiding_wiring_2.jpg

Facime
08-18-2010, 08:52 AM
Ive been around Celicas and Supras for many years. If I can be of any help let me know (Im PacNW as well). I'll follow along and keep an eye on things ;)

T-spoon
09-04-2010, 02:58 AM
Well, I've been bad about updating and posting. I didn't do anything for a couple weeks (down with a cold). No pics of the recent stuff at the moment but what I've done is pull the bumper cover, the bumper bar and the upper support. I found when I took the upper cover off that support was quite rusted, so it's off after much ado. The two screws on one side decided to start freewheeling inside the nuts which are welded to the fender, so getting them out was dreadful. I intend to replace both it and the crash bar (as I found that it was already crashed, not MAJOR but definitely dented). Then the intercooler came out along with the final couple of AC lines. Really there is very little left to do before pulling the 7M. I bought an engine stand and am looking around for a cheap engine lift/hoist/cherrypicker.

If anyone knows of a MKIII being parted out in the Seattle area with a good front end, I'd love to pull that upper reinforcement and crash bar. Also will need silver passenger mirror housing and still looking for a dash. I found a guy that said he had a perfect dash for me and then just simply stopped replying to email :(

85gtsblackman
09-04-2010, 04:09 AM
what do u need that can be shipped im going to the junkyards sunday and i remember one of the "cheap" yards had a mostly intact 90-92 n/a i passed as i was heading out last week

T-spoon
09-04-2010, 05:19 AM
Hmm, the shippable part is the issue.. mostly need large pieces. I COULD use a stock steering wheel (just the wheel itself, my center portion is just fine) if it's in good shape. Burgundy would match, but black would look fine too. I could use a burgundy door lock bezel (passenger side if they're different, can't recall ATM). Only other thing I can think of would be the side view mirror housing for passenger side but I'd rather not deal with painting right now so only if it were silver.

Don't go to much trouble, but if you do get any of that it's appreciated :)

T-spoon
03-17-2011, 10:57 PM
Well.. finally progress today, I ordered the engine. I'm trying to acquire a hoist this week and if successful and weather cooperates I'll be pulling the 7M out. It's been totally ready to come out, I just haven't had a hoist to do it. Once the 2J arrives it will go on the stand, lose the stuff it doesn't need (stock twins) and I'll be putting the mid/rear sump oil pan on and most likely do water pump, seals, tbelt etc. I'll be doing it in stages for funds reasons, so after all the engine prep and refreshing is done I can get the bellhousing, clutch and flywheel setup to mate it to my R154, send the harnesses out to Tweak, and get a new IC setup.

andy
03-21-2011, 04:05 AM
YES 2jz ftw!

T-spoon
03-21-2011, 04:53 AM
Yep! Should be on the truck to me tomorrow. Unfortunately, though we had great weather this weekend, I couldn't get the 7M out because I couldn't get a hoist. I have had three craigslist people agree to a transaction and then cease communication, and don't have a vehicle fit for just going to harbor freight or something and buying one (not to mention they're bloody expensive new). Shipping a hoist is so ridiculously expensive as to be not worth it too. Good times, but I'll figure it out.

Facime
03-21-2011, 05:12 AM
try a rental yard, many have foldable hoists for rent and I believe you can also get them delivered (depending on the shop). I rented one once that I managed to fit in the trunk of my dads LeSabre. With seats down you should be able to transport in the alltrac, or you can rent a pickup by the hour from Home depot.

EDIT:
Im headed to Seattle tomorrow to buy a transmission and have a nice hoist I can break down to fit in the 'sploder. You could borrow it (I dont expect to need it anytime soon) but you would need to find a way to get it back to me at some point. Call me before 10AM tomorrow morning if you want me to load it up.
541-272-1970

T-spoon
03-22-2011, 01:56 AM
Thanks again for going out of your way to loan your hoist, Facime. It'll be a big help :)

Facime
03-22-2011, 05:39 AM
no worries.

T-spoon
04-01-2011, 11:36 PM
The 2jzgte just arrived and is tucked away safely in my "garage". Now if I can get the 7M out tomorrow, I'll then get the wiring harness of the 2J and send it with the 7M harness to Tweak :) Pics later tonight of the new motor :)

T-spoon
04-02-2011, 02:01 AM
Oopse, I forgot to resize them before uploading...

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/7m_removal_011_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19095)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/7m_removal_010_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19094)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/7m_removal_009_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19093)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/7m_removal_008_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19092)

T-spoon
04-03-2011, 05:27 AM
So alright, the weather today cooperated. Joey came up and we got it done! When I say we, I mean Joey while I pretty much fetched tools :hehe:

I didn't take any pics of the process leading up to pulling the motor, but I can tell you it was a bit of a pain because of the slope and my floor jack being a bit small and pathetic compared to the um, somewhat weighty MKIII.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_001.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19116)

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_002.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19117)
There it is. We actually scratched our heads for a while at this point trying to figure out how to push all that weight uphill, but finally managed it.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_003.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19118)
Joey, looking extremely professional.. and also me, for some reason.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_004.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19119)
Cool, empty. Looks like it could use a little cleaning, but more or less ready to receive the other motor.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_005.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19120)
Umm, yep, another picture of the motor hanging there while we pondered the best way to move it where we wanted. Did I mention the 7m+tranny are pretty heavy, and it was uphill?

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_006.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19121)
Yes.. obligatory "Oh look, I'm standing where the engine would be, except the engine isn't here, and it's very awesome!"

Facime
04-03-2011, 05:42 AM
sweet! progress is good. Hoist seemed to do the trick.

So was that motor blown or what are your plans for it?

T-spoon
04-03-2011, 06:00 AM
Yep, the hoist worked great, especially the load leveler, I have a feeling that would have been a lot worse without it. The motor has one big problem. Cylinder 3 has 90psi, the rest are like 175. Aside from that it's good, arp headstuds and MHG, new exhaust cam (because I stupidly broke the original), adjustable cam gears. The shortblock was actually bought new from Toyota by a previous owner and probably had less than 30k on it. I don't really know what to do with it, but figured I'd try to get a few bucks for it if anyone wanted it to rebuild.

Luni
04-03-2011, 06:05 AM
Good work yoz!

2JZ thats gonna be sweet.

Facime
04-03-2011, 06:54 AM
What do you want for the motor? I dont have anything to put it in at the moment but there are some cheap 1GCb's in the NW for sale right now. Or maybe just rebuid it for fun I dont know. If the price was right I might be able to come pick up the motor and the hoist all at once...just a thought.

T-spoon
04-03-2011, 07:01 AM
Oh, well, um... $100? Hey, you could also take the Aristo auto tranny from the 2J for another $100 if you wanted it (lord knows what you'd want it for, lol). There's no turbo for the 7M btw since I'll be using it on the 2J, but it does have an aftermarket manifold.

Facime
04-03-2011, 07:21 AM
deal on the motor (dont need the trans). I'll plan on coming to get it when you are done with the hoist then.

T-spoon
04-03-2011, 07:25 AM
Sounds good to me

T-spoon
04-10-2011, 12:43 AM
Got some more done today. The tasks on the list were to remove the wiring harness and the turbo assembly. I got both of those things done. Let me tell you, that is one crazy turbo setup. It took me a couple hours to get them off even with the motor out of the car!

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/2j_prep_1.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19271)
Upper plenum off to make the harness accessible.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/2j_prep_2.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19272)
AC compressor out to make room (and because I'm not going to have AC in the car)

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/2j_prep_3.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19272)
Bucket-O intake piping, vacuum lines and VSVs

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/2j_prep_4.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19272)
Uhhhhh yeah, not sure how to tackle this..

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/2j_prep_5.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19275)
Finally able to get the manifold nuts off. No broken or stripped fasteners. Phew! Stock Twins off.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/2j_prep_6.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19275)
And there they are taking up more of my limited space ;) Not sure what will happen to them. I reckon' I'll see if any MKIV guys have blown up their turbos and need replacements.

T-spoon
04-24-2011, 10:59 PM
Did some more stuff this weekend. I got the engine up on the stand and Joey helped me get the crank pulley and timing gear off the crankshaft so I can put new seals and t-belt on. I neglected to take pictures of any of that but it wasn't terribly exciting anyway (was a very stubborn crank pulley bolt though).

Today I decided to maybe give refurbishing the steering wheel a go referencing Facime's post about re-covering them. I took the old black cover off and then unstitched and removed the original leather. Now I just need to find somewhere to get the leather and should be able to make it look like new with some help from the wife.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/007.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19395)

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/006.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19394)

Facime
04-25-2011, 02:24 AM
I can give you some links for places to get thread and leather if you want.

T-spoon
04-25-2011, 02:48 AM
^ That'd be nifty :)

Facime
04-25-2011, 03:46 AM
For sewing the two halves together just get the heaviest polyester thread your machine will feed.

for the hand stitching: Thread (http://www.thethreadexchange.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=TTE&Category_Code=waxed-thread-size-277) Size 277 Waxed Nylon 4 cord, choice of colors


leather options:
Leather partials (ebay) (http://stores.ebay.com/LEATHER-PARTIALS)
Townsend Leather (http://stores.ebay.com/Townsend-Leather-Outlet)

Its kind of hard to find small pieces that are appropriate for a steering wheel. You want 2.5-3.5oz (1-1.5mm) thickness, with a "soft hand". I prefer a natural or smooth finish rather than a pebble finish. Toyota actually used "patent" leather, but Its hard to get to lay right. You might find it easier to go to an upholstery shop in the area and try to buy a scrap that you can see and feel and decide if you like it.

T-spoon
04-25-2011, 03:56 AM
Cool, thanks for the info and tips!

ChrisD
04-25-2011, 05:53 AM
My first thought is "I wonder how much those twins weigh"?

Good stuff!

85gtsblackman
04-25-2011, 07:09 AM
sigh, i wish i coulda found a supra around here that wasnt ragged to hell, oh well at least the 240 was lady owned

hey spoonman my buddy that has the 90 turbo is in need of a good cps really bad to you have one or can u get him one?


oh btw there was a 89-92 in the junkyard that had a nice interior i can see if its still out there next week

T-spoon
04-26-2011, 02:58 AM
sigh, i wish i coulda found a supra around here that wasnt ragged to hell, oh well at least the 240 was lady owned

hey spoonman my buddy that has the 90 turbo is in need of a good cps really bad to you have one or can u get him one?


oh btw there was a 89-92 in the junkyard that had a nice interior i can see if its still out there next week

Crank position sensor? I'm not parting out the 7M, it's going to Facime, unless he doesn't need that piece.

I could use one or two interior parts.. unfortunately the most important piece is the whole dash pad/panel, which would be way too expensive to ship I think.

T-spoon
04-26-2011, 03:00 AM
My first thought is "I wonder how much those twins weigh"?

Good stuff!

Heheh, they're tiny, but man they have a lot of extra hardware on'm!

Facime
04-26-2011, 04:10 AM
no Im definately going to want all the bits that I you have that are needed to make it run.

sloceli
04-26-2011, 06:39 AM
David, we still on for Wednesday?

T-spoon
04-26-2011, 07:05 AM
Yeah. I haven't been able to find an aristo wiring diagram, but have found a lot of info from other swaps. Guess we'll find out if it's enough.. :hehe:

sloceli
04-26-2011, 02:41 PM
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/aristo.png
Ks=Knock Signal,Ks=Knock Signal,Ir6=Injector 6,Ir5=Injector 5,Ir4 =Injector 4,

Ir3=Injector 3,Cas=Cam Angle Signal,Ir2=Injector 2,Ir1=Injector 1,

Wts=Water Temp Signal,As=Airflow/map Sensor Signal,

E=Earth, Ig3/Ig4=Ignition Signal 3/Ignition Signal 4, R=Rpm,

Ig2/Ig5=Ignition Signal 2/Ignition Signal 5, Crs=Crank Angle Signal,

Ig1/Ig6=Ignition Signal 1/Ignition Signal 6, Ts=Throttle Signal,

Its=Intake Temp Siganl, E=Earth, P=Power,

This is what I've found. We should be able to open the ecu and the pins should be listed on the inside.

T-spoon
04-26-2011, 03:38 PM
That is for the non-vvti I'm assuming (mine is non-vvti). I didn't see a map sensor or afm anywhere with the new engine parts, but I don't think that matters since I'm using the mapecu2, as long as it's wired in correctly. I haven't opened the ECU yet but Joey suggested the same thing. I've got some threads and such saved for reference.

T-spoon
04-27-2011, 12:54 AM
How bad of an idea would it be to re-use my clutch disk & PP? They seem to be in decent condition and would save a ton of money if it has significant useful life left. I'm not concerned at all about this setup holding the power of the 2J as I intend to run comparable power to what the 7M was doing. I have this ingrained aversion to re-using wearable parts but.. anyone have any opinions/facts about this? Money is certainly a major concern for me, but because that's true I can't afford to do something that will cause further problems.

Facime
04-27-2011, 08:09 AM
There is really no reason not to. The biggest issue I can think of is how the disk mates up with the flywheel. You know how like with brake pads and rotors they sort of form to each other...if the flywheel the disk came off wasnt in terrible shape I would most definately reuse it. Worst case scenario it doesnt hold or it doesnt last. But in a simple RWD chassis like the MA70, its not like you cant put a new clutch in easy enough if that one doesnt last. If there is plenty of friction material and the PP isnt heat glazed then go for it. You can technically even have a PP resurfaced if need be.

T-spoon
04-27-2011, 03:33 PM
I may just do that then, especially since I found last night that for some reason Toyota put high impedance injectors in the JDM 2JZ, and they're smaller than the US 550s to boot, so I'll have to add the cost of the USDM resistor pack to run my bigger low impedance injectors.

Facime
04-27-2011, 07:52 PM
man I was a mess last night when I posted that. I cleared up some grammar and spelling, but yeah if your budget is tight I see no good reason not to reuse it.

you can manually "resurface" the PP a little with a flat grinding stone to take a little glaze off if you want, or you can use a brown 3M surface prep pads on an angle grinder to scuff it up a little if you are careful to give the entire surface an even pressure.

http://www.denlorstools.com/shop/images/AP-2SPK.jpg

T-spoon
05-01-2011, 07:04 PM
Ordered the motor mount brackets, oil lines for the turbo, exhaust manifold and a top feed fuel rail today. I scored a used upper and lower rear sump oil pan on ebay for a fraction of what I thought I was going to have to pay for them. I did some cleaning on those yesterday and should get them on soon.. maybe I'll do that later today.. hmm

T-spoon
05-02-2011, 02:35 AM
Well the weather was just too nice outside, I found myself out by the cars and decided to try tackling the oil pan job (something I've never done before)

Here is what it looked like to start with, front sump oil pan to fit the front end of an Aristo (how the Lexus GS300 is badged in Japan for those unfamiliar).

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/001.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19430)

Here is the new upper with the rear sump location for Supra front ends side by side with the front sump.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/002_733076.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19431)

Lower front sump pan, baffle and pickup removed.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/003.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19432)

Upper pan off.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/004_268777.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19433)

Rear sump upper pan, baffle and pickup installed.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/005_894729.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19434)

All done! I noticed that in addition to having the lower pan mounted further back, it's also turned sideways and shaped for extra clearance.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/006_485467.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19435)

Hopefully I used an appropriate amount of FIPG for both pans. I had just a little squeezing out on the sides all around like these pics show.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/007_203260.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19436)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/008.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19437)

Rickstar22
05-02-2011, 02:38 AM
Good stuff there !!!! I know how distracting the weather was today... Kudos for staying on task and getting your daily duty accomplished....

Facime
05-02-2011, 04:37 AM
shit yeah, I worked today as well...too nice NOT to make the most of, but I still put time on the books.

The FIPG job looks good to me.

T-spoon
05-02-2011, 05:36 AM
Heh, yeah, I felt compelled to get something done after ordering those parts.. if only to get my mind off how much money I just spent :hehe:

Rickstar22
05-02-2011, 05:44 AM
Heh, yeah, I felt compelled to get something done after ordering those parts.. if only to get my mind off how much money I just spent :hehe:

Get used to your wallet having blisters.... lol

T-spoon
05-07-2011, 04:59 AM
Some stuff came in the mail to give me something to do this weekend. I'm actually.. not super impressed with the quality of the manifold but... it's all I can afford right now so it will have to do.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/001_372501.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19468)

T-spoon
05-07-2011, 06:33 PM
Blast. The manifold is just no good. The bolt holes don't all line up properly with the studs, the turbo flange is too far forward and not tilted away from the runners so my turbos plumbing would be afoul of the runners. Because of the forward position my downpipe fouls on the wastegate and would need to be extended to reach my midpipe. I think I'm going to have to get a custom one made which is going to be expensive. BAH.

T-spoon
05-08-2011, 03:50 AM
Disappointed with the manifold situation but.. got some stuff done anyway. I installed the fuel rail and was happy to discover that the 7M FPR screwed right into the aftermarket unit (the 2J regulator doesn't fit it). I have a TRD regulator to help it and a good electronic fuel pressure gauge. You can also see the new engine mount bracket peaking up at the bottom of the picture. These brackets allow me to use the 7MGTE motor mounts. Mine were in decent shape still but I ordered new ones anyway.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/001_212590.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19471)

Shot from the end of the rail with my precision 720cc(760? I don't remember, hah) injectors and the 7M FPR. I just need to get some -6 AN fittings/hoses to go from the rail to the MKIII fuel lines.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/002_129705.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19472)

I should have taken some pics while I was switching out the bellhousings (swapping the stock R154 bellhousing for the 1JZ bellhousing which allows me to bolt the R154 right to the 2JZGTE). The pressure plate is actually held on by the fork, so I had to remove the fork's mount through the access/inspection panel, pull the fork out through there and then slip the pressure plate out. Here's a boring pic of the finished job, bellhousing looks almost identical to the original R154.. it's just a lot cleaner :hehe:

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/003_882756.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19473)

T-spoon
05-13-2011, 06:13 AM
Parts from Jegs.. this will be my dual-feed fuel line. I'll be cutting the hardline down at the bottom of the firewall and putting the -an adapter on to mate with the braided line.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/008_94969.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19481)

The leather that I ordered to re-wrap the steering wheel came in. But I laid it out and realized... it's way more than I need for the wheel.. and I've had no luck finding a dashboard that's in good shape to match my interior soooo... new mini-project! Here's the big piece of burgundy leather.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/004_322268.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19477)

Dash panel after 20+ years of sun

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/003_143206.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19476)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/001_387324.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19474)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/002_688794.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19475)

Started removing the old original material.. some kind of pleather... This is as far as I got tonight, only spent a few minutes. Some of it was hard and brittle and just snapped off in little pieces. Other parts were still fairly pliable. Here's how it sits now.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/007_617500.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19480)

Long way to go, but it should be interesting. Looks like we'll need to make a pattern with paper or something and experiment with what needs to be pieced together and what can be one piece. I don't want any bubbles or wrinkles or anything, so will need to carefully lay out how I want it before cutting any of the leather. And of course I'll need to make sure I have a good piece left to use for the steering wheel. I've never attempted anything like this before, if it turns out well it will be very satisfying.

KoreanJoey
05-13-2011, 06:48 AM
Oh man, that looks like some work.

T-spoon
05-13-2011, 06:49 AM
Oh man, that looks like some work.

Yep! But I've got both feet in it now! :hehe:

T-spoon
05-15-2011, 04:17 AM
Put the fuel lines together today. I cut off the very end of the fuel feed hardline where it went to a rubber hose and put this -an adapter on instead so I won't have any rubber-only sections all the way to the fuel rail.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/001_342659.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19486)

Finished lines, dual feed to the rail. If I have issues with this setup I will have to put the stock pulsation damper inline, but I don't expect to need to.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/004_132014.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19489)

Set the manifold back in place to be sure of clearance. Everything looks good. It may be a little tighter with the wiring harness in but I don't think that'll be a big deal.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/003_797671.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19488)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/002_900092.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19487)

pingpong21
05-15-2011, 06:40 AM
nice job..doing anything tomorrow im off if you need help

T-spoon
05-15-2011, 07:21 AM
I'm at a "waiting on parts" stage again. If I do anything it will probably be on the steering wheel or dash, but I'll let ya know.

T-spoon
05-23-2011, 02:51 AM
Finished the steering wheel this weekend. Had help from the wifey but did all the hand stitching. Fingers are sore! Facime's walkthrough on doing this is outstanding. Mine didn't turn out perfect, but for a first attempt I'd say it's not bad and is serviceable.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/001-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/005-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/006-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/003.jpg

Facime
05-23-2011, 03:23 AM
Looks pretty good to me. I know all about the sore fingers part, lol.

If you have a clothing steamer you can use that to tighten it up a little, or you can just dunk it in some hot water and then heat it real good with a hair dryer. You can massage out and wrinkles that way as well. Then let it dry in a hot car for a day to finish it off. Dont forget to condition it with some good leather conditioner.

T-spoon
05-23-2011, 03:45 PM
Looks pretty good to me. I know all about the sore fingers part, lol.

If you have a clothing steamer you can use that to tighten it up a little, or you can just dunk it in some hot water and then heat it real good with a hair dryer. You can massage out and wrinkles that way as well. Then let it dry in a hot car for a day to finish it off. Dont forget to condition it with some good leather conditioner.

Yeah, definitely need to get some conditioner for it. Hairdryer did seem to work well for some smoothing, but it could use more in a couple places. I was pretty surprised at the amount of stretch in the leather. We had to reseam one of the joints once because it started too loose. When I trimmed I was horrified because it looked like I had trimmed too much, but it actually easily stretched into place and fit better than the places I had thought were perfect before and actually had to trim a little more off.

DudeMan
05-23-2011, 05:42 PM
Coming along well Spoonman, think it will be back on the road this summer?

Steering wheel wrap looks great. After seeing Facime's write up I've been tempted to take a swing at it myself.

Facime
05-23-2011, 07:57 PM
Yeah I learned alot on my first couple of wheels about how much stretch you can count on. I should have mentioned that there is a grain to leather and it will stretch more one dirrection rather than the other. You want that stretch going around the circumferance of the wheel rather than towards your seams.

I didnt notice if you used any padding either. I generally used a padding layer on the pre89 wheels as they came with one from the factory. But its a whole extra step and a pain in the ass, probably better left to a second or third attempt.


Do you have a timeline for then you are going to drop the motor in?

T-spoon
05-23-2011, 11:08 PM
Coming along well Spoonman, think it will be back on the road this summer?

Steering wheel wrap looks great. After seeing Facime's write up I've been tempted to take a swing at it myself.

Yeah I really want it on the road mid-summer.

Facime: Didn't use padding. It noticed it originally had it, but I left it out because like you said it was an extra difficulty that I didn't want to take on as a novice, and the wheel was already soft and shaped for fingers anyway. I thought about a lot of variations, including using a different color or texture for the typical handgrip locations and even putting raised padding there to shape it, but again, just too complex for a noob.

I'm really wanting to get the motor in soon I've just been slowed by parts and such. I hope to get the motor itself ready to put in this weekend. I want to do the wiring harness before I drop it in, simply because it will be MUCH easier to get that on the motor with it out of the car, but I haven't really gotten anywhere with the wiring yet. Middle next month is my best guess/hope for getting the motor in. I think I do have access to another hoist if you need yours back sooner though.

Facime
05-23-2011, 11:25 PM
no no, Im in no need at all. In fact, if you are interested we might be able to talk a sale rather than return. Im thinking about making some life changes here soon and I doubt I will need a hoist for a while.

T-spoon
05-23-2011, 11:36 PM
Ah, alrighty then.

Mr. Babb
05-24-2011, 03:55 AM
lookin good!

NgoFcukinWay
05-25-2011, 08:05 PM
Subscribed! :) Didn't know about this till Lilly told me about it.

Reminds me of my 1JZ swap in my '91 when I had it. Tempted to sell the G and get another one + a daily. XD

Pete! I haven't seen you since your Houston days. How ya been? I doubt you remember me though. lol

David, have you sent off your harness yet? I can ask my buddy Ken down here what he'll do it for. He's got the Aristo wiring diagram since he's done quite a few of these already. Did you want to extend the harness or punch a whole through the firewall and run it that way?

Facime
05-25-2011, 08:27 PM
Pete! I haven't seen you since your Houston days. How ya been? I doubt you remember me though. lol


Of course I remember you Alex. I asked David to say hello to you the next time he talked to you. The last thing I knew about you was you had gotten the G35. I still talk to Steven once in a great while on MSN as well. As far as I know he still has his mk3. I actually had alot of fun in Houston aside from the asshole I lived with that left me living in a house with no running water or electricity while he scoffered off to Austin. That and the unbearble humidity. its good to hear you are doing well!

T-spoon
05-25-2011, 11:23 PM
David, have you sent off your harness yet? I can ask my buddy Ken down here what he'll do it for. He's got the Aristo wiring diagram since he's done quite a few of these already. Did you want to extend the harness or punch a whole through the firewall and run it that way?

Well the current plan was to try to do it myself with help from Joel (sloceli). I have the 87 EWD and located the diagram for the body harness stuff for the Aristo. Because of the tight budget I'm hoping to be able to tackle this without sending it off. Apparently it doesn't even need to be extended if it's opened up and a bunch of unnecessary stuff is out of the equation, like AC, Trac, etc. Laying it side by side with the 7M harness it looks like it's plenty long already.

NgoFcukinWay
05-27-2011, 07:36 PM
Of course I remember you Alex. I asked David to say hello to you the next time he talked to you. The last thing I knew about you was you had gotten the G35. I still talk to Steven once in a great while on MSN as well. As far as I know he still has his mk3. I actually had alot of fun in Houston aside from the asshole I lived with that left me living in a house with no running water or electricity while he scoffered off to Austin. That and the unbearble humidity. its good to hear you are doing well!

Yes, sir. Upgraded to my gas guzzling, but fun G35. :) I spoke with Steven not too long ago, and yup, he's still got it, but i'm not sure what all else he's been up to. You should come down and see us some time! You'll be welcomed with open arms by our wonderful humidity. lol


Well the current plan was to try to do it myself with help from Joel (sloceli). I have the 87 EWD and located the diagram for the body harness stuff for the Aristo. Because of the tight budget I'm hoping to be able to tackle this without sending it off. Apparently it doesn't even need to be extended if it's opened up and a bunch of unnecessary stuff is out of the equation, like AC, Trac, etc. Laying it side by side with the 7M harness it looks like it's plenty long already.

ooh ok. cool. Wiring should be pretty straight forward as long as you have both wiring diagrams in front of you. The tedious (hardest) part is the cutting and soldering. :\ I don't know too much about the harness, but I know if you wanna route it OEM style, then you'd need to extend it, other than that, you can punch a hole through the fire wall to keep the length of the JDM harness. I dunno too much about wiring though. Just know from what I've read and seen.

T-spoon
05-29-2011, 04:38 AM
Wish I could have done more today, but I'm waiting on parts and didn't get up the enthusiasm to do anything with wiring. I did mock up the turbo setup and put the oil feed and drain lines on as well as the plug for the unused oil feed (stock twins each have their own feed from the block). The turbo sits higher in the bay so I'm hoping the downpipe still clears the bottom of the firewall.. if not some cutting and re-welding will have to happen. I did also order the bulk of the remaining needed parts: flywheel, intercooler and piping etc.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/001_995204.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19586)

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/002_845886.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19587)

I'm struck by how much quicker this would all be if I were leaving the motor stock and just sticking it in there..

DudeMan
05-29-2011, 07:49 AM
Fuck stock.

Terracar
05-29-2011, 03:33 PM
That sterring wheel re-wrap looks amazing. I must give you props on having the patience and fortitude to try that. You are correct, it may have been quicker if you stayed stock, but honestly, is that the car you really want?

-Terracar

T-spoon
05-30-2011, 05:03 AM
Oh, yeah, stock is not what I want. In fact, I wish I could afford to do the intake cam right now but I can't. The Aristo intake cam is teh poopeh. Eventually I would like aftermarket or at least a USDM stock supra intake cam. I'm not sure trying the steering wheel was patience and fortitude so much as it was a fairly cheap option and does retain the stock interior look that I kinda like :hehe:

richee3
06-02-2011, 11:01 PM
I'm insanely jealous of this project. I've thought long and hard about scrapping my '96 Celica project and picking up a mkIII Supra and doing a 1JZ swap. Keep the progress coming.

T-spoon
06-03-2011, 02:11 AM
Lots of parts coming this weekend or early next week. Should be able to get the motor ready to go in, plan the IC piping layout then deal with the wiring. It's still crawling along :)

Facime
06-03-2011, 04:30 AM
Im still looking for a viable shell to put the 7M in. Thinking seriously about an RA29 swap. Is that motor in your way at all? what do you think about a trade: the motor for the hoist? (but I want to keep the leveler and all the chains/buckles)

T-spoon
06-03-2011, 04:56 AM
Im still looking for a viable shell to put the 7M in. Thinking seriously about an RA29 swap. Is that motor in your way at all? what do you think about a trade: the motor for the hoist? (but I want to keep the leveler and all the chains/buckles)

It's not really in my way, no. I'd be cool with that trade, yeah

Facime
06-03-2011, 05:04 AM
sweet. I will probably have to pick it up sooner rather than later as Im already making significant plans for the summer.

T-spoon
06-03-2011, 05:15 AM
Are you cool with taking the engine itself and I can mail you any of the rest of the peripheral stuff that I don't end up needing after I finish the swap (or at least get to where I know exactly what I'll need)? I just don't want to end up stuck at some silly point because I sent off something I need to be using.

Facime
06-03-2011, 05:53 AM
dude, you take the time you need with whatever I left there, its all good. if I can help in any way, Im happy to do so. I almost fell like you are old school family for me going back to Houston days!

T-spoon
06-05-2011, 03:07 AM
Well.. no pictures today, but I did get more done. Finished the water lines for the turbo and capped off the extra spots (stock originally had plumbing for two turbos of course). Changed the cam seals and put the cam pulleys back on. Installed the 93-98 throttle cable, as the 87's cable for the 7m is of course not the right length. I also drained about 6 gallons or so of the ~4 year old gas out of the tank. I have no idea what to do with it, but it should have gotten most if not all settled contaminants and water out at least. For some reason Driftmotion didn't ship my flywheel, intercooler and piping and some other things (that I ordered last Saturday and they already charged my card for) or I'd have been able to get a lot more done today.

T-spoon
06-06-2011, 11:16 PM
By the by.. I noticed while under the car draining the fuel Saturday, there's a cute little sticker on the rear end that says "LSD Fluid only". :)

Facime
06-07-2011, 02:20 AM
Thats always a good one to see. I dont know if they ever produced a non-LSD turbo (Ive never personally seen one). Is your car a TEMS car as well?

T-spoon
06-07-2011, 02:28 AM
Thats always a good one to see. I dont know if they ever produced a non-LSD turbo (Ive never personally seen one). Is your car a TEMS car as well?

Yep, it's TEMS and it works, or at least, it did as of a few years ago before it was parked for so long

Facime
06-07-2011, 02:39 AM
on my tems car I manually switched the valves to "hard" and then removed the actuators so it was always in hard mode.

NgoFcukinWay
06-08-2011, 07:41 AM
on my tems car I manually switched the valves to "hard" and then removed the actuators so it was always in hard mode.

that's how she liked it. lol

Facime
06-08-2011, 07:09 PM
Lucy was a whore! lol

T-spoon
06-19-2011, 04:14 AM
No more putting it off wiring begins...

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/002_286594.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19711)

Joel pondering deep thoughts as he helped me get started last weekend (working on the body to engine harness plug to 2j third ecu plug).

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/003_35631.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19708)

Unloomed the 2J harness

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/002_338895.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19707)

Pile of looming conduit, plastics and hangers. I won't need all of it but probably will re-use a fair amount.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/001_474919.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19706)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/004_507118.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19709)

Labelled all 80 wires of the two main ECU plugs. Next I'll label the wires for the plug that would go to the 2J body harness (separate from the 3rd ecu plug).

Wife and I also cut out a cloth pattern for the dash which we'll use to cut out the leather for it.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/003_14359.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19713)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/002_330639.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19712)

Depending on weather tomorrow, I'll work more on wiring, or I'll work out the intercooler mounting.

KoreanJoey
06-19-2011, 04:33 AM
Sweet.

sloceli
06-19-2011, 07:49 AM
There it is, was waiting for that picture to pop up. Good thing my tattoos look badass. I hope those links helped out because that wiring is something else. Let me know when you want to tackle it again.

T-spoon
06-19-2011, 06:57 PM
Yeah, I'd actually found those links before, maybe even bookmarked? Can't remember, but I wasn't sure what to do with the info at the time. In any event, I'll be working on it as much as possible and whatever I can figure out, so just give me a hollar anytime you're available. It's crunch time on this thing :hehe:

ChrisD
06-20-2011, 03:20 AM
Nice! I've gotta get back to my wiring project too. Oh so fun. :hehe:

T-spoon
06-20-2011, 06:02 AM
After labeling the ECU wires, I then labeled the wiring for the connector that went to the Aristo body harness. I went ahead and took out some wiring I knew I wouldn't need, like the traction control plug, some AC wiring and the Hydrofan wiring.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_001_776577.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19719)

Then I wired in the USDM MKIV injector resister (I'm running precision low impedence injectors, Aristo comes stock with high impedence) and soldered in the injector plugs to match.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_001_402552.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19720)

Facime
06-20-2011, 06:14 AM
and I thought soldering in a 9 pin plug for my bikes fairing arrangment was tedious and confusing.

T-spoon
06-23-2011, 04:58 AM
Worked out the mounting for the intercooler, and pondering whether to remove the bumper cover grill or not (pics on that later). I drilled into the back of the crash bar (Extremely hard steel that is, btw!), pushed an exhaust manifold stud through and managed to get a nut on the back of it. Makes for a really solid mount for the IC.

Bought 1step colder NGK sparkplugs and dropped'm in.

Also ordered tires (the ones on the car are 5-6 years old and severely dry rotted and the sidewalls are cracked up). Went up from 255/40 17 rear 235/45 17 front to 265/40 17 rear 245/40 17 fronts.

T-spoon
06-25-2011, 10:24 PM
Here's the intercooler mounting. Studs secured to the back of the crash bar like so.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_003_835406.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19755)

Shot of where the intercooler sits behind the crash bar.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_001_839141.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19753)

I'm trying to decide whether to leave the grill out or leave it in. I kind of like it without, but I'd need to remove the tabs that hold it to make it look right.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_005_590171.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19757)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_004_920806.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19756)

NgoFcukinWay
06-26-2011, 05:58 AM
Get the S2 (I think that's the name of the company) intercooler duct.

T-spoon
06-26-2011, 06:22 AM
Hmm, that doesn't look bad, but I'm afraid that sort of thing isn't in the budget right now. Maybe down the road though. For now it's all about getting it up and running well.

Facime
06-26-2011, 07:54 AM
Personally without an A-duct Iw ould just leave in the lower grill. only other thing I like is a mesh insert painted flat black.

DudeMan
06-26-2011, 05:14 PM
only other thing I like is a mesh insert painted flat black.

This.

Find some metal mesh and use the stock tabs to mount it. Just like the RC bumper.

pingpong21
06-27-2011, 05:21 AM
Looks awesome sorry I couldnt come by I worked all afternoon.

T-spoon
06-28-2011, 05:39 AM
Tires got here from Tirerack. Shame I'm not ready to put them on yet, but at least they're ready for me whenever I am. They're Dunlop Direzza Star Specs.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_001_126745.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19789)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_003_54934.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19791)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_002_848711.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19790)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_004_621544.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19792)

85gtsblackman
06-28-2011, 06:47 AM
nice, i wouldhave rather went with staggared, the supra me ant a buddy built has 245/45/17s on the front and 275/40/18s in the rear. it had 245s in the front and when i loaned him 2 of my 17s it was 265/40s in the rear. the 18s hooked up much better but to each his own

T-spoon
06-28-2011, 03:32 PM
nice, i wouldhave rather went with staggared, the supra me ant a buddy built has 245/45/17s on the front and 275/40/18s in the rear. it had 245s in the front and when i loaned him 2 of my 17s it was 265/40s in the rear. the 18s hooked up much better but to each his own

Heh, I'm already something like 5 or 6 grand into this project. New wheels when I have perfectly serviceable 17s already just isn't in the cards yet ;) Those sizes you list are way off factory diameter btw. I want my speedo to be at least remotely accurate. It'll still be a bit off with the sizes I went with, but not as bad as going 245/45 and 275/40/18.

Facime
06-28-2011, 06:52 PM
Yeah those tires look HUGE, but they are only 2% off stock circumference. They are significantly wider though, I hope you can turn the fronts without rubbing.

T-spoon
06-28-2011, 09:47 PM
Hmm, circumference wise rubbing won't be an issue (circumference is slightly less than the current stock MKIV size).. but width... I think it'll be ok but I guess I'll find out..

KoreanJoey
06-29-2011, 06:19 AM
Sawzall.

PS: I've got wider rubber... On a COROLLA! :)

KoreanJoey
06-29-2011, 06:19 AM
Oh yeah, BTW... I can install the tires for you.

T-spoon
06-29-2011, 03:43 PM
Ah.. coo. I think I'm getting a free 4door car this weekend so I"ll be able to do thinks like haul wheels and tires down to Tacoma ;)

NgoFcukinWay
06-29-2011, 08:59 PM
free daily beater ftw

pingpong21
06-30-2011, 11:37 PM
Ah.. coo. I think I'm getting a free 4door car this weekend so I"ll be able to do thinks like haul wheels and tires down to Tacoma ;)

What?! You are lucky I wanna see lol

T-spoon
07-09-2011, 05:26 AM
Ok, still working on this thing every chance I can. Really got into working on the dash. First we cut out the pattern with cheap cloth, starched it a lot so that it would stay in place better. Then cut out pattern in the leather with plenty of extra to account for errors and unexpected fitting issues.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_001_576799.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19863)

Cut it out and then realized it just wouldn't sit right this way. There are too many angles going from the driver side to the passenger side.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_002_902688.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19864)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_003_914568.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19865)

So we decided to cut that and make a seem at a better angle.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_004_930748.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19866)

Next an insert was sewn in the gap and seems pounded down. This was done by trimming down the excess, then putting leather paste/cement in and then pounding it down with a mallet to make the seem as flat as possible.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_002_43862.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19868)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_004_100334.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19870)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_005_828110.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19871)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_003_528435.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19869)

And then I put a flat panel and some weight on top of it for a little while to let the paste set up.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_001_849423.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19867)

After that, I put the leather back on the dash to test fitment. It needs to be really snug everywhere since it will be harder to stretch fit with so many different angles and it not fully wrapping around.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_006_14885.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19872)

Well, still too many angles. It wouldn't fit snugly in that corner joint, so the front face on the passenger side had to be cut and seemed at a bit of an angle. Did that and left it this way at this point. Still has a ways to go, but it's coming together. It is really quite an experience and very much trial and error. At least with the steering wheel we had someone's work to mimic; for the dash we're flying blind.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_001_316294.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19874)

T-spoon
07-09-2011, 05:34 AM
Wiring.. oh the wiring.. I hate it so much!

Still a mess!

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_001_930877.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19875)

Pile of removed wiring from the 2J harness. This is auto tranny stuff, traction control, AC, etc. .. aka, things I don't need and am deleting.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_006_581926.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19882)

87 Supra body harness plugs soldered in where (I hope) they should be to interface with the 2J.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_002_431745.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19876)

And... zip tied the harness up in temporary fashion to make it transportable and took it out to test fit on the 2J. I'm hoping I have enough length to go into the stock firewall hole, since obviously it came out of a RHD car. It looks like I may just have enough. Everything fit well and all plugs that I need are accounted for.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_001_744508.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19877)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_003_595645.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19879)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_002_596317.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19878)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_004_263023.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19880)

Well there it is. I need to double-check some things with the wiring, account for a couple of wires I have some doubt about but I'm just about ready to loom it up and put it all in the car and then pray that I didn't screw it up too badly :hehe:

Facime
07-09-2011, 06:02 AM
I have loads of leather experience and I wouldnt even dare attempt a dash, so kudos to you for that. Unless you have something else planned I suggest 3M high strength 90 for your spray glue when you are finally fitting it. Also, its kind of a pain in the ass to get right, and takes some practice (practice on scraps) but double stitching your seams will look alot better in the end.

DudeMan
07-09-2011, 05:34 PM
Takes balls to tackle a dash wrap or even an engine harness.. Props for doing everything yourself.

T-spoon
07-09-2011, 08:21 PM
I agree on the double stitching, it does look a lot better. Unfortunately our darned sewing machine was fouling up just trying to do the standard single seem (wasn't me doing the machine work either, it was the wife who knows what she's doing with the machine, it's just kind of a cheap unit) so we're trying to keep it as simple as we can. I couldn't locate a burgundy dash in good condition, so I figured whatever we manage to do with the leather will at least look better than it did, so figured we'd give it a shot.

The wiring.. I keep telling myself I wish I'd sent it off, but at the same time, the money to do so just doesn't exist, so here's hoping it turns out alright!

Facime
07-10-2011, 12:29 AM
Yeah, I have a cheap machine as well and its tough to do leather with it at, much less a nice straight double stitch.

As for wiring, I suck at it, Its tedious and time consuming, but the key is taking your time and double checking yourself. You'll get it, and will save the money for more parts.

NgoFcukinWay
07-11-2011, 05:27 AM
Pete, I love the new avatar. "MY ANUS IS BLEEDING!!" lol

Wish I was up there to give you a hand with that stuff. I've really been wanting to do some wrenching/craft work lately to break from my mundane routine.

T-spoon
07-11-2011, 07:03 AM
Well... dash is done. I can't say I'm completely happy with it.. but it will be serviceable. I suppose it's alright for complete novices.

Before:

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/001_387324.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19474)

After:

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_001_400928.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19906)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_002_124019.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19907)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_004_516396.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19909)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_003_487645.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19908)

T-spoon
07-11-2011, 07:27 AM
Huh, the original burgundy plastic and the leather really look pretty close in person, the difference is hardly noticeable. Looks a lot different in the pictures.

Doowstados
07-11-2011, 08:30 AM
Huh, the original burgundy plastic and the leather really look pretty close in person, the difference is hardly noticeable. Looks a lot different in the pictures.

Probably the way the different materials reflect/react to light. Looks much better though, kudos for the arts and crafts skills! :laugh:

Facime
07-11-2011, 08:30 PM
Ya know, my first steering wheel didnt look that great either. The more you work with something the more tips and tricks you discover and you get better. I bet you arent interested in going back and doing it again (at least not anytime soon) but if you do you will do better the next time.

ideas for you anyone thinking of attempting this:
Padding - putting down a layer of foam first or backing the leather will compensate for some of the lumps and bumps.
Heat and water - Leather stretches significantly more when its wet, and while its not going to stick down as well, if you can wet it, form it, and tack it until its dry, then it will retain a shape and then you can glue it. Heat shrinks leather. using the two techniques together can make fitting easier.
Form press - If you have a difficult void to fill you can make a reverse of the shape out of wood or metal and use it to press the leather into the void. Wet the leather, press your form into it, clamp and let dry. It will retain most of the shape. You can also use spray "sizing" (startch) on the backside of your damp leather to help it hold a shape when dry.

As you say, its serviceable. Maybe you can buy a carept dash cover as well? Also, it may tighten up a little when its sits in the car in the sun/heat, be prepared for that.

T-spoon
07-11-2011, 09:45 PM
Part of the problem is that I tried to use the original padding which had hardened. I filled in the cracks and sanded but of course there were some slight bumps and such left over from that. A whole new layer of padding would have been a lot more work, but made for a better end result for sure. Shaping it was definitely the trickiest part, especially where the gauge cluster curved section from the driver side met the passenger side flat faces above the glove box. I'm betting that spot in particular would have benefited from getting a single piece of leather stretched and shaped to fit rather than trying to piece it together, which is super difficult!. I don't think I'll be putting any extra cover on it, I HATE how dash covers look, which was part of why I didn't just slap one on the original cracked dash. I would like to see if I can find some kind of trim to put around the defroster vent though.

Terracar
07-11-2011, 11:25 PM
I can honestly say it certainly does not look all that bad. 2 things will help.. some of it will be hidden once in the car and it should shrink a bit with heat/time.

I applaud your attitude and perseverance. The dash removal alone scares me let alone a dash recover. Someday soon I might pick your brain regarding the wiring. Good luck and I cannot wait until you are finished.

If you ever need a hand wrenching or just an extra body, I would be willing to help.

-Terracar

T-spoon
07-12-2011, 12:30 AM
I can honestly say it certainly does not look all that bad. 2 things will help.. some of it will be hidden once in the car and it should shrink a bit with heat/time.

I applaud your attitude and perseverance. The dash removal alone scares me let alone a dash recover. Someday soon I might pick your brain regarding the wiring. Good luck and I cannot wait until you are finished.

If you ever need a hand wrenching or just an extra body, I would be willing to help.

-Terracar

Heh, got any time this weekend? Wanting to drop the motor in and need some hands :hehe:

Terracar
07-12-2011, 03:57 AM
Lol, you're the second person to ask if I wanted to help drop a motor this weekend. Unfortunately I have the nephew up for the weekend, so not available this weekend.

-Terracar

Terracar
07-12-2011, 08:46 PM
Okay Spoon, I am booked for July weekends (I should really start a calendar rather than relying on the wifey), but I am available in August if you still need a hand/warm body.

-Terracar

T-spoon
07-17-2011, 01:33 AM
Progress... not there yet, but it's a big step. Co-worker came over and we finagled the engine in. The driveway slope made it a huge PITA, but the load leveler saved the day.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_001_389963.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19952)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_002_632052.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19953)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/stinky_003_834590.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=19954)

Facime
07-17-2011, 01:55 AM
schweet!

T-spoon
07-20-2011, 05:52 PM
So I've run into an odd little issue that I didn't see commented on with any of the 2j or 1j into MKIII swaps.. the throttle body is hitting the hood and causing it to not sit flush when latched. I got down and looked across from the side and clearly the engine sits level while the front of the car slopes dramatically. This was of course no issue with the 7M because the 7M has a center feed throttle body, where there is plenty of hood clearance still, while the 2Js is on the front. I don't appear to have any room for adjustment as the transmission can't go any higher, and there's only like half an inch clearance from the bottom of the engine to the front crossmember.

Any thoughts? Cut on my hood, live with it pushing up the hood? (not sure I'm keen on that constant contact).

Facime
07-20-2011, 06:17 PM
Ive never heard of that happening either. Do you still have the hood blanket? (take the blanket off) Is it hitting one of the supports or the actual flat surface of the hood? (moddify the support) What part of the TB hits? the front snout, or the top by the flange? If its the snout you could shorten it or re-angle it maybe.

Does it hit outside the stock cowl section? if so how far?

If its inside the cowl lift, Ive done several modified cowls on supra hoods. Its not too hard to do.

This hood has a half inch lift added to the cowl:
http://home.comcast.net/~theweezl//kevhood6.jpg

and a rear vent:
http://home.comcast.net/~theweezl//kevhood2.jpg


This one is a little taller and has a front vent:
http://home.comcast.net/~theweezl//timhood1.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~theweezl//timhood4.jpg

If the TB is hitting outside the cowl, it would be more difficult, but you could widden it.

Facime
07-20-2011, 06:20 PM
did you use some premade mounts or did you make your own? how tight is the motor to the firewall? could it come back at all?

one other solution, although not a cheap on is to get an anftermarket short runner FFIM.


http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z291/ajgillett/jzz30/IMG_3148resized.jpg

T-spoon
07-20-2011, 06:50 PM
Oh, I like those hoods a lot. MKIII engine bays are severely lacking in ventilation... I do need to find the answers to most of those questions. AFAIK it's the squared-off top of the manfold where the throttle body connects to it rather than that front pipe section that houses the traction control butterfly. I don't know, but I THINK it's outside of the raised center area. It did occur to me that it might be hitting one of the supporting pieces of the structure rather than the top piece of sheet metal, but not sure if that's the case or not.

I'm using the Drift Motion brackets with new 87-88 mounts (square variety). It lines up and fits well, the transmission is in the right spot to center the shifter, so while there is a /little/ room to move towards the firewall.. it's not much, would require a lot of work with the mounts, and is less optimal for the shifter position. It seems like if the brackets were just an inch or so different it wouldn't be an issue.. I'm just surprised this hasn't come up since those are pretty commonly used in the supra community.

I think I just need to get the hood lined up exactly where I want it and then find out precisely where I need the clearance. If it's as simple as slicing out a little bit of the support structure (as long as it wouldn't seriously compromise the hood strength) that would be nice.

T-spoon
07-20-2011, 06:52 PM
BTW, "Rescue Tape" is insanely awesome stuff. I'm using it for some of the wiring looming and really liking how it performs.

Facime
07-21-2011, 01:36 AM
yeah, figure out where it hits first for certain, then go from there. That second hood I showed you went on an 90 with a 1JZ swap and there was no clearance issues at all. He used the Driftmotion mounts as well.

http://www.timduganphotography.com/index.php?showimage=73&category=2

T-spoon
07-21-2011, 04:04 AM
Well.. um.. hahah. It wasn't hitting the manifold, but the manifold was keeping the PS reservoir pinned higher on the strut tower than I thought. It's the 7M reservoir so it's not bolted down. I shoved it out of the way and there are no clearance issues now... :hehe:

I put the wiring harness in and did some quick testing. At a glance the instrument cluster looks good. Starter operates fine, fuel pump comes on and turns off when it's supposed to. Unfortunately.. my -AN fitting on the end of the stock fuel hard line leaks... which sucks, because that is much harder to get to with the engine in. I'll have to figure out what's up with that.

T-spoon
07-21-2011, 06:58 AM
And now my right headlight motor has decided it doesn't work now. It worked just fine before I started the swap.. D'oh!

NgoFcukinWay
07-21-2011, 05:48 PM
I remember with mine, i kept the 7M power steering reservoir and mounted it on the fender wall between the shock tower and the clutch master cylinder. Worked pretty well and looked clean.

T-spoon
07-22-2011, 04:22 AM
Fuel leaks are fixed, soon as I get a computer that will communicate with the MapECU2, I'm ready to try to start. Put oil in and built up some oil pressure, so hopefully all it lacks is the proper input from the computer.

T-spoon
07-24-2011, 08:49 PM
IT'S ALIVE!! Not exactly ready to drive, but it lives :)

T-spoon
07-25-2011, 03:29 AM
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/?action=view&current=Stinky002.mp4

UtahSleeper
07-25-2011, 03:41 PM
NICE!!!!! Congrats on passing another hurdle.

T-spoon
07-28-2011, 05:30 AM
Well, had a three day delay caused by a really tedious to track down EFI fuse blowing. Took about five hours and half a box of 15amp fuses to track down. Finally did though, and made sure he still runs and tested out the exhaust (sloceli welded a flex pipe in for me). Now I can hopefully make some forward progress again and get this project on the road.. literally.

sloceli
07-28-2011, 03:40 PM
What ended up being the problem? Was it in the loom that you wrapped up? Glad you got it figured out. Now get the dash in and get her ready for Ogopogo!

T-spoon
07-28-2011, 03:51 PM
I posted about it in the electrical sub forum. I haven't figured out what the problem is specifically, but I found the sensor/plug/wires that were causing it. It's the oil level sensor, so for now I can leave it unplugged and get everything else done.

T-spoon
08-02-2011, 06:03 AM
Wiring loomed and secured. I ended up slitting an old radiator hose with a 90 degree bend lengthwise and using that as a conduit to protect the harness through the firewall. Then I wrapped the wiring with "Rescue Tape" (heat resistant, insulated, doesn't leave residue), then wrapped it with reflective tape. Hopefully that should protect it where it sits above the downpipe. It also ended up being shaped and rigid enough so that if the zip ties break, it still won't fall onto the downpipe.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/005_348082.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=20111)

I got the intercooler piping sorted out, but there's no much to show picture wise since it's mostly hidden. Here's a shot of the engine bay as it sits now.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/001_543853.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=20107)

Today I also drained the tranny fluid and gave it a fresh fill and started to bleed the clutch. I picked up the wheels from Discount and tossed'm on.

Tomorrow I'm going to try to get the interior all back together (make mounts for the computers, put in the dash, console, shifter etc.). Then I just need to finish bleeding the clutch, burp the coolant system/radiator and should be ready for a test drive.

T-spoon
08-04-2011, 12:54 AM
Car is pretty much all back together and I drove it around the block. It's way too rich, and won't idle once it's out of the initial cold start mode. I did give it one quick spool of the turbo and it broke the tires loose... but then it backfired and belched an enormous smokescreen of fuel. Oopse. Really needs tuning now.

Facime
08-04-2011, 01:26 AM
I thought you were running it on the stock ecu?

pintoBC_3sgte
08-04-2011, 01:36 AM
gonna be bringing it to the ogopogo? or still a bunch left to do?

T-spoon
08-04-2011, 01:55 AM
I thought you were running it on the stock ecu?

Stock ECU with MAPECU2 piggyback. I'm running a dual top feed rail with ~720cc/min injectors and a decent size single instead of the twin turbos. Straight off the stock ECU wasn't an option.

As far as Ogopogo goes.. it's not looking good at this point, unless Joel swings by with his wideband O2 and works some genious. I can't tune for crap, myself, and no time to get to a dyno before heading to Canada.

KoreanJoey
08-04-2011, 04:37 AM
Dude, http://www.r-hgarage.com/
Do it! There is a local guy with a Volvo 750 turbo w/ some pretty serious work done on it made 325 on his street tune. Took it into English racing and is now at 400hp (with over 50hp gain at any point over 2500rpm).

Street tunes just are not the way to do it.

T-spoon
08-04-2011, 05:38 AM
Oh, I never intended not to get actual dyno tuning. There's no time to do it before the Ogopogo though, so it will have to stay home :(

Also thanks for the link, was looking for shops earlier.

KoreanJoey
08-04-2011, 06:22 AM
Further but definitely a highly recommended shop.

http://englishracing.net/

T-spoon
08-18-2011, 03:48 AM
Well, the Ogopogo delayed the project a little, but I've been back at it. It turns out I had a brain fart and put the timing belt guide in the wrong place and the belt was trying to walk off. On top of that, the original tensioner failed and was stuck fully extended, making the belt so tight it was leaving material on the idler pulley and the engine actually run worse. On top of THAT, I think me and Joey routed the serp belt wrong because it was insanely tight and hard to get on (to contrast, Joey, I was able to put the belt on myself, pulling the idler with one hand and slipping the belt over the crank pulley).

I corrected all these things and started this evening and it ran MUCH better. No more groaning from the front of the engine, t-belt doesn't try to walk off and has proper tension. It now runs without unusual and worrisome sounds, but like it seriously needs tuning, so that's pretty much the next step.. FINALLY.

Oh btw... on my test run before the Ogopogo, it turns out I actually broke a t-bolt clamp.. it must have been defective.. I'll post a pic later of that.

T-spoon
09-18-2011, 03:14 AM
Well, it's on the road now. Idling issue was sorted out (the IACV was filled with black goo and I had a bad data file on the MAPECU2). It went for tuning today and made ok numbers. Around 400 CHP and 450 Ctorque at 14ish psi. I need to get some pics up.

Next step will be to get a USDM 2J intake cam (The JDM one flows about 5% less and really restricts top end power), a more reliable wastegate and then go for some finer tuning and maybe a little more boost.

jaydog82
09-18-2011, 05:11 AM
nice build man.

T-spoon
09-29-2011, 05:36 PM
Unfortunately I couldn't get the idle both stable and lean enough at the same time to pass the "Idle" portion of the emissions test (too many hydrocarbons). "Cruise" it was fine.. so.. I bought a high-flow cat and will be installing that. Once I get it registered here in WA I should never have to do another emissions test since it'll be 25 years old, unless of course I move to a place that requires one for registration..

I also found a set of USDM cams. I'll be installing the intake one which has greater lift and duration than the Aristo cam and should help make/keep more power past 5k rpm. I'm also going to replace the cheapo wastegate, maybe put in a new/clean set of plugs and maybe add a boost controller to see what the car can do at say, 25 psi or so, and then go for some more tuning.

T-spoon
02-12-2012, 03:20 AM
Small update. Car sat through the winter (it didn't like to start in cold weather). I decided I'd had enough playing with piggybacks and pulled the MapECU2 and went AEM series 2 instead. I'm waiting on a 3.5bar AEM map sensor to run with it. In the meantime, I installed the USDM intake cam today. Once the map sensor gets here, I should be able to get it installed and fire it up with the AEM. I'm ditching the knockoff tial wastegate and using an adapter to use my HKS wastegate. Then it's off the to the dyno again for tuning.

pingpong21
02-14-2012, 11:41 PM
Jeeze this beast has been in hiding for to long lol. Hope it gets on the road soon. Then it can cruise with its old friend.

T-spoon
03-04-2012, 01:39 AM
Got the AEM squared away but wouldn't start. I tossed in a set of factory denso platinum spark plugs (had NGK 1step colder plugs before and I noticed they were extremely black and a little damp.. no doubt from all the initial startup, tuning etc. before). I also replaced all of the ignition coil connectors. The five that hadn't already crumbled came apart with a gentle squeeze with pliars; it's nice to have a solid "click" sound when they connect now instead of being unsure of the connection.

Fired up and messed with the closed loop fuel a bit. It idles like poopeh, but I guess that's what heel-toe driving is for. I was able to drive it around the block, including a pretty steep hill climb and stop signs. I should be able to get to the tuner next Saturday. I have a solenoid (from an AVCR I used to have) wired in so the AEM should be able to control boost, but just in case I'm taking a twosrus MBC with me to the tuner.

I'm stoked to see what she'll do with standalone, a good wastegate, a bigger cam, and a good tune, since it was already respectable with the piggyback mapecu2 and a POS heatsoaking WG :)

T-spoon
04-11-2012, 05:27 AM
Well, I've been a bum and haven't taken any pictures.. but a small update..

Didn't get to tune because one of my injectors decided to take a crap. Long story short.. I decided to upgrade to injector dynamics 1000cc high impedance injectors. They shipped me the wrong tops for them (sent me 14mm instead of the 11mm I need for my fuel rail) but while I'm waiting for the correct ones, I have the intake manifold off, removed the injector resister and replaced my power steering return line with better hose that won't break down with the ATF (the old hose wasn't rated for it and was seeping). I did get to drive it for a couple weeks, but couldn't get on it and make any power.

So.. with any luck.. this Saturday it gets tuned.. hopefully.. maybe..

T-spoon
04-14-2012, 04:37 AM
Injectors went in today. Opened the AEM and changed the injector settings in there and she fired right up, nice and smooth. Then I went to start it later (when Facime was here to pick up the volvo) and... nothing.. no fuel pump.. CRAP. Blew three AM2 30amp fuses before I took a deep breath, calmed down and went over everything around the intake manifold where I had been working. I discovered inj #4's wires were pinched in between the coolant line nipple from the IACV and the fuel rail. Loosened the IACV and pulled the wires out and discovered... yep, the power wire was crushed and had lots of exposed wire in two places. Repaired that, put it back together.. and VROOM!

Off to the tuner in the morning!

Facime
04-14-2012, 09:09 AM
sweet, glad you sorted that out so easy.


The Volvo ran great all the way home and didnt fail to start several times at rest stops and for a dinner break. Im thrilled with it so far!

T-spoon
04-14-2012, 03:29 PM
sweet, glad you sorted that out so easy.


The Volvo ran great all the way home and didnt fail to start several times at rest stops and for a dinner break. Im thrilled with it so far!

Awesome! I had these images of you stuck in the middle of nowhere with that thing, glad it behaved :)

T-spoon
04-15-2012, 02:36 AM
Couple of short vids my wife shot on the way to the tuner (R&H Garage, they rock!). Chase car is her MR2 spyder. It can't exactly keep up, even with the supra not tuned.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/th_001-3.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/?action=view&current=001-3.mp4)

Note the dingleberry in the BMW doing a ricer flyby after I slowed back down :hehe:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/th_002-3.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/?action=view&current=002-3.mp4)

T-spoon
04-22-2012, 05:03 AM
Got a little done today. Got the tuning done. Unfortunately something it keeping it from making power. It's actually making less power now than it did with the other intake cam, so it makes me really suspicious of the cam I bought. Also my wastegate failed.. it won't allow more than 15psi because it's being pushed open, no matter what kind of controller is used.. so I'll have to replace it.

Otherwise it's running well and the torque and HP curves are smooth though making less power than it should (only between 3 and 400 HP, depending how you calculate what - it's an awd mustang dyno) . Short vid of one of the pulls on the dyno.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/th_035.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/?action=view&current=035.mp4)

Also I put new gas struts on the hood cause I got tired of it flopping closed on the back of my head with every little breeze gust. Voila!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/th_037.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v243/t-spoon/Project%20Supra/?action=view&current=037.mp4)

And a couple of pics. After we got home the wife and I gave the cars a quick rinse. You can really see the slope I deal with on this driveway!
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/040v.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21517)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/039v.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21518)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/038v.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21519)

Facime
04-22-2012, 08:33 AM
that one photo makes your shed look crooked! lol

NgoFcukinWay
04-22-2012, 09:00 PM
You guys have tunnels! Jelly....

T-spoon
04-23-2012, 01:08 AM
that one photo makes your shed look crooked! lol

Hahahah, yeah, I probably should have held the camera horizontally level instead of leveling the cars in the picture :heheh:

and yeah, Alex, we have a couple tunnels. They are fun, but not on roads I drive much.

pingpong21
05-01-2012, 01:57 PM
awesome to see it on the road and looks amazing. keep it up :)

T-spoon
02-10-2013, 01:26 AM
Well.. stuff.. short version: getting to do some front end upgrading. I'll have pics when the repainting is done. For now.. here are pics of the mesh covers/grill I made today. I am putting IPF fog lights in (used to be on my 6g T-spoon before it died, brother in law sent the fogs back to me). To protect them the mesh is boxed for strength. They should be able to take direct rock hits and just laugh. Thanks Joel for providing the mesh. The pics are a spare bumper cover I'm using for test fitting.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2597.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22525)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2599.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22527)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2600.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22528)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2598.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22526)

Murgatroy
02-10-2013, 05:37 AM
Looks nice.

Doesn't look like a hack job, I know you were worried about that.

Facime
02-10-2013, 08:39 AM
unless you are putting an 89+ nose on it, I dont see the upgrade part. Is there some other mods planned for it? front lip?

T-spoon
02-10-2013, 05:49 PM
Added clear signals and smoked markers, but won't have pics of the finished product until some repainting is done (fender bender). The mesh is an upgrade because I just have empty holes there now, and it will catch more road debris than the stock grill anyway. The IPF fogs are a nice upgrade from the factory ones too. As far as the lip goes, I have given that some thought and I'd like to do something there. Mine is pretty badly scraped and has some ripple to it. I know some of that could be straightened with heat, but I'll probably just replace it at some point.

Murgatroy
02-10-2013, 06:37 PM
Cheez-Its!

I know you strategically placed that box just for me. I am bummed I didn't catch it the first time around.

T-spoon
02-10-2013, 09:02 PM
Cheez-Its!

I know you strategically placed that box just for me. I am bummed I didn't catch it the first time around.

:hehe:

T-spoon
03-08-2013, 05:15 AM
Damage:
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/supra_repair_2.13.13_009_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22622)

After my amateur body work and parts replaced:
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/supra_repair_2.13.13_003_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22621)

After body shop and paint:
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/supra_again_008_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22623)

Insurance's body shop quoted almost $5k for that damage. I bought the parts for a couple hundred and took a couple hours putting them on. A different body shop finished it up for me for $1300ish. My new title does not appear to be branded, although I suppose it could be electronically and just not showing on the title itself. They gave me about $4500 for the car after keeping $700 as "buy back". I guess all said and done I came out ahead. Also I put 89+ mirrors on cause my right side was cracked for a long time courtesy of an unknown party in a parking lot. The body shop painted the "new" mirrors free since they already had the paint mixed.

T-spoon
03-10-2013, 05:21 AM
Some pics of the new mirrors and the grills installed.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2633_800x600.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22635)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2632_800x600.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22634)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2637_800x600.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22637)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2635_800x600.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22636)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2631_800x600.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22633)

Fog lights installed!
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2643_800x600.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22639)

All the lights!
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2642_800x600.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22638)

Lights off. Ooooh, the fog lights glow.. take that fancy pants bimmer halo stuff! These are the fog lights I had installed on the blue 6g coupe I used to have (T-spoon).
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2644_800x600.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22640)

Murgatroy
03-10-2013, 05:54 AM
So you neighbor has a Z car, he cool?

T-spoon
03-10-2013, 06:22 AM
So you neighbor has a Z car, he cool?

Yeah, he's a nice guy. Chat with him every couple days or so. He's not a hardcore enthusiast, but he does like his old car and keeps it maintained.

KoreanJoey
03-11-2013, 12:16 AM
I still think you've got two different headlight bulbs in there... ones more yellow than the other one.

T-spoon
03-11-2013, 01:21 AM
I still think you've got two different headlight bulbs in there... ones more yellow than the other one.

I'm sure that's possible, the left headlight assembly is from a donor car. However, I don't see what you're talking about with the "yellow"ness

KoreanJoey
03-11-2013, 01:49 AM
Drivers side is more yellow, passenger side is more blue/white.

KoreanJoey
03-31-2013, 09:15 AM
I am so happy this isn't in my driveway anymore. :)

T-spoon
04-01-2013, 02:37 AM
I am so happy this isn't in my driveway anymore. :)

Me too. It drove really well, didn't pull or anything, but still getting alignment before driving it more, of course.

KoreanJoey
04-01-2013, 07:55 AM
Good man.

T-spoon
04-02-2013, 03:48 AM
Took the car down to Joey's. We took this stuff off:

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/photo0075.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22717)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/photo0076.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22718)

Did fronts too, but didn't take many pictures. We pressed out (our friend Gabe actually hammered out a few that didn't fit on the press right) the old worn out bushings and replaced with poly and did H&R springs and new Tokiko shocks that work with TEMS. If it wasn't a street car I'd probably remove TEMS and go with different shocks, but I still like being able to soften them up with a button push for bumpy roads. Couple pics of the new stuff.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/photo0078.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22720)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/photo0077.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22719)

Made a huge and immediate difference. The old bushings were so bad the car couldn't be aligned in the rear.

KoreanJoey
04-06-2013, 09:08 AM
How does she feel? I mean, ride ok? Not too harsh?

T-spoon
04-06-2013, 03:32 PM
It's good, yeah. The springs are definitely stiffer, but (you'll laugh) the TEMS is handy for softening the shocks when I get on rough roads. I'm putting the new end links on today. Their length is adjustable, any reason I wouldn't make them the same length as stock?

T-spoon
04-07-2013, 02:48 AM
So, when the rear suspension was coming off for the bushings, the old crappy sway bar end links did not choose to cooperate. Joey cut one of them off, but the other side one nut did come off and allow the work to be done. Had to run with only one side hooked up for a week. Ordered aftermarket end links to replace them and installed them today. The stock end link that was still on there was in lousy condition. One nut came off, but the other end... lots of pre-soaking with lube and very careful work only got the other nut to the end of the bolt before it stripped. I ended up having to cut it off too. So glad I had a cut off wheel!
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2647.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22737)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2648.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22738)

Here are the new links installed :)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2651.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22741)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2650.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22740)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/1/4/img_2649.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=22739)

Murgatroy
04-07-2013, 03:28 AM
You know, a couple bucks of spraypaint would have made all that work look worthwhile.

Be she feels better though.

T-spoon
07-28-2013, 01:36 AM
Well, I've been failing at pictures, but recently I put in a new air intake temp sensor (had a bung welded onto the intake pipe before the throttle body) because the stock location heat soaks horribly and becomes almost worthless. After that went for more tuning and... the fuel pump was dying and dropping pressure on the high end. SO.. out with the dying walbro 255 and in with a 400lph pump instead. Back to the dyno today and it put down 470 to the wheels. For comparison, on the same dyno my tuner recently had some lightly modded vipers come in and make similar numbers. On a higher reading dyno it's probably in the 550 range. More importantly though, it now pulls smoothly all the way to redline and idles well and has PLENTY of power for the street. I need to get the sheets scanned in, but I'll probably fail and forget to do that Monday..

Lonestag
07-29-2013, 08:59 PM
Wow, just read this entire thread for the first time, what an odyssey!

Lots of good work and sweet DIY eithic, would love to see this car some time.

ChrisD
07-30-2013, 02:16 AM
Damn! How do you think it'll fair at autocross next weekend? Would love to see those graphs!

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T-spoon
07-30-2013, 03:32 AM
Hahah, it's going to be a horrible autocross car, but probably funny enough to be worth it :)

pintoBC_3sgte
07-30-2013, 03:50 AM
Can't wait to see your car in action!

NgoFcukinWay
10-06-2013, 10:04 PM
is that 400LPH fuel pump pretty loud when it's operating? I'm thinking about getting it if my NA pump isn't able to hold its own when on the GTE swap. Do you also plan to run E85 eventually?

T-spoon
10-07-2013, 01:52 AM
is that 400LPH fuel pump pretty loud when it's operating? I'm thinking about getting it if my NA pump isn't able to hold its own when on the GTE swap. Do you also plan to run E85 eventually?

It's actually pretty quiet. The 255 was louder. I don't plan on E85. It's not especially convenient to get where I'm at and too much trouble and expense to convert. Maybe eventually.. but I doubt it

KoreanJoey
05-27-2017, 01:41 AM
I am so happy this isn't in my driveway anymore. :)

Damnit...

Murgatroy
05-27-2017, 02:55 AM
Damnit...

Elaborate...

KoreanJoey
05-27-2017, 07:31 AM
Project stinky is now in my driveway. I'm now heading up this project.

And... she be broken.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/3/6/5/img_20170526_193532877_925410.jpg

Murgatroy
05-27-2017, 11:39 AM
That looks painful.

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bloodMoney
05-30-2017, 03:49 PM
Oh Holy Shit.

cocojambo
05-31-2017, 01:42 PM
I just find amazing the work and dedication needed to be put into such a project. I mean, you've updating this thread for 7 years. Your work is outstanding, I salute you! Congratulations!