View Full Version : Celica "generations"

06-15-2010, 01:55 AM
I understand differences between Celica generations - speaking about second and third generation RWD cars and then of course fourth through seventh generation FWD/AWD cars.

What I don't understand are references to "second generation" or "third generation" 3SGE/3SGTE ENGINES.

I am assuming there is a difference here - or am I confused?

06-15-2010, 02:17 AM
Yes, there is a difference.

While most parts are the same between them, the difference is mostly power ratings.

06-15-2010, 02:22 AM
the 1st gen 3s came in the 88-89 alltracs


the 2nd gen 3s came in the one you just bought. Do I need to show you that as well? ;)

the 3rd gen 3s came in late mr2's, 94-99 GT4s

the 4th gen 3s came in the caldina in japan

out of this:

Someone here recently did a breakdown of the 3s engine specs hp, bore, stroke, disp, etc.....

06-15-2010, 02:26 AM
I don't know about the 3SGE but here are some of the differences on the 3SGTE.

1st Gen
WTA intercooler
Single entry turbo
MAF (air meter)

2nd Gen
ATA intercooler
Twin entry turbo
MAF (air meter)

3rd Gen
Improved WTA intercooler
CT20B turbo
Improved electronics eliminate MAF (Went to MAP sensor system)
Different cams from 2nd Gen

4th Gen (From Caldina)
Back to ATA intercooler (larger than 2nd gen)
Side entry intake manifold
CT20B turbo integrated into exhaust manifold
coil on plug technology (I think)

There are other differences but these are the ones that I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure others will chime in soon.