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spitfiremk16
06-15-2010, 12:26 AM
so, while im rebuilding the engine block for my 5sfte ive been thinking about transmissions, i currently have an S53 i bought from another ctech member(my car was originally automatic). i found out that apparantly there are lsd's availible for s53 and s54 transmissions as they share the same differential as the 7th gen celicas and mr-s. heres the oem toyota part numbers i found

41301-20230 oem toyota helical lsd for mr-s

i know that there are also some aftermarket diffs avilible but id rather stay with a helical diff over a clutch type. the question is would it be worth going this route when compared to an e-153 swap. oh, also though id mention no problem with the install, theres a few guys at work who are expert with toyota transmissions, im mostly looking at it cost and durability wise as to which would make more sense,

4thgenceli
06-15-2010, 12:49 AM
Durability wise I'd go with the e153. The S series transmissions are truly a hit & miss situation. Some people can drive forever and then some on one, other's go through them like condoms. Cost isn't too bad either to be honest. I'm not sure pricing on the LSD's your checking out, but e153's can be found with LSD units installed for around a grand.

v8killer
06-15-2010, 02:35 AM
quafe ATB helical is like 750-1000 install it yourself :D i was in a bemmer with one it was pure sexyness for such an old car (2002 tii)




41301-20230 oem toyota helical lsd for mr-s

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so will this work with the e150f? and the rear end of an alltrac?

spitfiremk16
06-16-2010, 10:48 PM
yeah, i would probably be much better off going with an e-153 in that case, would be about $500 cheaper for a transmission that is much more durable and has higher gearing, makes sense to me, from what i know that diff will fit any toyota s or c transmissions, that diff is originally the oem toyota diff that come as an option on jdm 3rd gen toyota mr-s, at least thats what ive been told. to be honest im not sure what the e-150 is, is that the alltrac tranny?

joe's gt
06-17-2010, 02:21 AM
It also would be nice not to cruise at 4k rpm on the highway...

spitfiremk16
06-17-2010, 11:44 AM
wow, didnt know that, i imagine then that the e-153 is going to be geared much better to a 300 hp turbocharged vehicle, i do plan taking it on the highway every once and a while so thats good to know.

Mafix
06-17-2010, 02:32 PM
the s series is fine unless you launch the car. if you are launching the car then you NEED an e series trans.
i wouldn't spend a ton of money on the s series tranny. save up and bench build and e series and then drop it in when you detonate the s series.

joe's gt
06-17-2010, 07:09 PM
wow, didnt know that, i imagine then that the e-153 is going to be geared much better to a 300 hp turbocharged vehicle, i do plan taking it on the highway every once and a while so thats good to know.

yes, 5th is much better in the e153 for highway cruising. But if your not concerned about that, you can go with the s54 for short term use.

spitfiremk16
06-18-2010, 11:33 AM
i do like to launch hard, i might put the e-153 in from the start to save mydelf some grief. im really hard on transmissions so it would make alot more sense to go with the better one, i think ive figured out about everything i need except fo the drivers side transmission mount, does anyone know what to use?

4thgenceli
06-18-2010, 11:39 AM
i do like to launch hard, i might put the e-153 in from the start to save mydelf some grief. im really hard on transmissions so it would make alot more sense to go with the better one, i think ive figured out about everything i need except fo the drivers side transmission mount, does anyone know what to use?
You'd need either a st165 or st185 upper transmission mount and bracket.

spitfiremk16
06-19-2010, 06:10 PM
thanks 4thgenceli, i think ive got everything figured out, prob gonna go with a lsd mr2 turbo tranny, modify it for fwd and see if i can get an alltrac crossmember with alltrac mounts all around, use my gt shifter cables after modifying them to fit the tranny. then get lsd mr2 inners and allrac outers for cv axles, the only thing i wasnt 100 percent sure about is ive heard of people using a spacer on the driver side ale if its too short to keep it from popping out, wasnt really sure what to do there.

Mafix
06-19-2010, 07:29 PM
depends on what the base platform is.

spitfiremk16
06-19-2010, 09:06 PM
im doing this to a 1992 celica gt