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sloceli
06-12-2010, 03:29 PM
It's been months since I've been able to drive the swap. Trashed the trans last year driving Mt Rainer. I picked up an E153 with a lsd locally a few months ago. Today I converted it to work with my FF setup. Pain in the ass I tell you. I had to pull the shift linkage off my Alltrac and the rest of the parts came from Bruce. Tomorrow I'll be pulling the engine, replacing my clutch and my broke S54. Here are some pictures of the conversion process. I'll post more of the install once I get done. I want to say thanks to everyone who help get me parts on short notice for this.

After the removal of the MR2 shift linkage assembly
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0011.jpg

Both linkages together
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0014.jpg

AllTrac shift linkage
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0013.jpg

The hole left once the MR2 linkage was removed
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0012.jpg

Hybrid axles in progress
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0018.jpg

Hybrid axles ready to go
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0019.jpg

The innards
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0015.jpg

Well that sucks the holes aren't drilled for the Alltrac assembly
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0020.jpg
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0021.jpg

First hole drilled and tapped
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0022.jpg

Second hole drilled and tapped
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0023.jpg

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0024.jpg

How will I fill the hole left from the MR2 linkage??? George knows.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0028.jpg
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0029.jpg
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0031.jpg

Here she is all cleaned up and ready to go.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0032.jpg

4thgenceli
06-12-2010, 08:58 PM
I used a 1 1/6th freeze plug and drove it into that hole.

sloceli
06-13-2010, 09:09 AM
So things didn't go as well as I wanted. Trans is installed and the engine is back in the car but I can't figure out the rear mount. I tried every combo of mout I have and nothing lines up right. T-spoon came out and gave me a hand. The axles I got are missing parts so they weren't installed. If all goes well I'll have her put back together by next weekend.

4thgenceli
06-13-2010, 09:35 AM
Which rear mount did you get?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/0516101622.jpg


There's 4x holes there (the 4th is just off the the left a hair out of frame. The st1x5 bracket cones on the lower 2 holes, and the one off to the left. Connect the bracket to those three, and it'll bolt right in.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/Untitled-10.jpg

The bracket should have the offset as pictured there. The offset allows it to bolt to those two lower holes that's also offset.

I made the mistake of trying to use my 162 bracket, which I modified to connect to the upper two holes.

T-spoon
06-13-2010, 05:43 PM
Ehhh? Are you saying there are other holes to mount the bracket on the tranny? It seemed like the issue with Joel's is that the bracket places the mount about an inch too far back to line up with the holes in the crossmember.

sloceli
06-13-2010, 08:03 PM
we used the st185 bracket from bruce. There were only 3 holes and the 185 mount was the only one that would fit. I'll get pictures the next time I work on it.

ChrisD
06-13-2010, 11:48 PM
I think Tim just had to dremel out the holes on the xmember a tad to get it to line up, which worked for him.

Or is it out even further than that can compensate for?

Hookecho
06-14-2010, 12:56 AM
so what do you need to make the axles work?

sloceli
06-14-2010, 01:12 AM
the mount was off a good inch or so. It was 1130 at night and rather hard to see but it looked to far off the dremel. The pass side axle is missing the bearing carrier assembly and the drivers side is missing the snap ring to lock it in the trans.

sloceli
06-15-2010, 02:36 AM
Not quite sure why this has never been brought up but before but in order to install the hybrid axles a few parts are required. Below is the list of parts that are required to install the axles.
43457-17010 Bracket, drive shaft $92.34 this is the bearing carrier
43496-17010 Stay, drive shaft $22.98 brace
43496-17030 Stay, drive shaft $22.86 brace
90119-10461 Bolt, w/washer $1.29 this goes through the carrier and rests on the bearing
90250-06015 Pin, straight $.80 X2 dowel pins to align the bracket

I don't have the p/n but there is a snap ring that locks the bearing to the bracket which is a few dollars more.

The right side axle does not have the snap ring to secure it into the trans because the carrier assembly does that. If the drivers side does not have the snap ring the part number is
90080-52017 Ring, Shaft Snap $1.83

Those are all the parts required to install your hybrid axles.

Hookecho
06-15-2010, 03:00 AM
i'm guessing you've ordered those parts.

sloceli
06-15-2010, 03:08 AM
yes I did. I wish this was brought up before. I hate stopping a project because more parts are needed. I got my swap done in a day and a half because it was all documented and all the parts were acquired before I started. I just hope this saves someone trouble in the future.

Hookecho
06-15-2010, 03:14 AM
definitely good info to have. i added this thread to my bookmarks.

4thgenceli
06-15-2010, 03:45 AM
Don't mean to jack your thread Joel, but did you order these for your original engine or the swap's engine? Reason asking is I have a listing for the carrier bearing on the ST162, but the st215 I don't see any listed.

sloceli
06-15-2010, 04:39 AM
it's required to use the MR2 acles with any ST18X engine. The st215 has a transfer case which extends to the pass side making the axles equel length. It's only required for the E153 trans. There is no way around it youu need these parts to make it work.

4thgenceli
06-15-2010, 04:49 AM
it's required to use the MR2 acles with any ST18X engine. The st215 has a transfer case which extends to the pass side making the axles equel length. It's only required for the E153 trans. There is no way around it youu need these parts to make it work.
Ok, so I should order those but for the st162 chassis then. thx

sloceli
06-15-2010, 02:42 PM
Tim, let me try to explain it a little better. The S series axles have the bearing and mount pre installed. With the E153 axles only the bearing is installed. The bracket slides over the bearing and is retained by a snap ring. On the S series the bracket is two pieces and is bolted together sandwiching the bearing in place. The 2 $22 braces go from the bracket to the block and are only applicable to the MR2 bracket. I cross referenced all the parts at the dealership last night and there is no other way around it. YOU MUST HAVE THESE PARTS.

RedRkt01
06-15-2010, 02:54 PM
I hate stopping a project because more parts are needed.

The story of my life.

sloceli
06-15-2010, 08:46 PM
I found a picture on the interwebs of the bracket installed on an MR2.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/axle_bracket.jpg

RedRkt01
06-15-2010, 09:04 PM
I'm converting to an E56 which will use hybrid axles. My 3SGE comes with the mount, but no stays. I'm wondering if I need to get these or not. Everything bolds up fine so I'm not sure what to think.

sloceli
06-15-2010, 11:32 PM
It depends on which bracket your using. The bearing acts as a carrier and thrust bearing. There isn't anything keeping the axle seated in the trans except for that bracket. If it's anything like the S53 axles there is only one stay that goes from the back of the bracket to the block by the PS pump.

RedRkt01
06-16-2010, 02:22 PM
Yeah, the 3rd Gen 3SGE def doesn't do that. However, I am using LSD MR2 inner shafts so I'm still wondering if I need these parts or not. They don't cost much so maybe I oughta get them. All I would need are the two braces and the bolts for each. The MR2 inner on that side has the bearing on it and when slid into the tranny fits snugly inside the brace. AFAIK the shaft would only be retained by the giant snap ring.

sloceli
06-19-2010, 03:08 PM
Gotta little bit more work done yesterday. I'm still waiting on the carrier bracket and stays from Toyota. I'm getting really aggravated that it takes a week to get these.

Yesterday I got the driver’s side axle in most everything else reconnected and put back together. The rear mount still kicked my ass and I was unable to get it bolted in. It is just to far off. I figured out a solution, WELD THE FUCKER.


How sad Celica being towed by a Dodge
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0033.jpg
How do we get the car off the dolly without ripping off the bumper
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0034.jpg
That was close
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0036_728908.jpg

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0041.jpg

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0039.jpg
Even after running 20+ PSI for over a year there is zero shaft play on the 20B
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0038_631281.jpg
Compitition Clutch pressure plate and stock disk.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0037_836610.jpg
This is where the bolt holes lign up on the mount. There is no way to drill that to make it work
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0044_185529.jpg
This is where the mount sits when its attached to the trans.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0042.jpg
Just some random shots durring and after welding the mout to the cross member. That mount aint going anywhere.
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0046_383895.jpg

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0045.jpg

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/9/0/img_0047.jpg

T-spoon
06-19-2010, 06:03 PM
:ohsnap: Well hey, if it works.. would the poly mount not fit if you were welding anyway? I guess you could always fill that one if it wears out on you :hehe:

sloceli
06-19-2010, 06:06 PM
Nope the polly mount hole is about 1/4" higher than the AllTrac one, it hits the rack. I was thinking about filling it but we'll see, the front one still has the polly mount so it should be fine.

Colossus20v
06-20-2010, 07:35 AM
Glad you found a solution to the mount issue Joel. I'm also glad to see this progress. I know you were strapped for time on this project. Keep us posted on the progress please.

sloceli
06-22-2010, 06:03 AM
Good news and bad. The swap is now drivable and the trans shifts wonderfully with no grinding. The bad, I'm having engine issues again. She's pulling great vacuum and everything looks good but she's way to rich and pulling timing. Driving home on the freeway at 70 she was at 10:1+. It's done this before in the past with nothing wrong then correcting a day or two later. Not what I was hoping for today.

Another note, only one of the stays are required. Not sure of the p/n I'll double check tomorrow but the cheaper of the two bolts up the the MR2s alternator mount which we don't have.