View Full Version : Caveman's ae86 DD

Hipster Lawrence
06-09-2010, 06:51 PM
Well this thing has turned into a bucketload of problems.

Almost every vacuum accessory has been deleted along with T-VIS. It had crappy Bosch +4 plugs in it the harness is hacked to hell. The fuel line has been spliced with rubber hose. etc etc.

My plan: Fix everything that is broken/deleted rebuild the wiring harness basicly put everything back to stock and get it running right and smog legal before I do anything else.

After that it's on to the AC. It's not very cold and I think the PO put WAY too much oil in the system.

Step three will be sealing up the engine and making the engine compartment pretty like the mk1.

THEN I'll start chassis tuning. I plan on front coilovers rear TRD springs bigger sway bars and all the usual stuff, strut bars poly bushes etc. Possibly a T3 short shifter and I don't know what else

I had planned on deleting the power steering but after driving a car with power steering there is no way I'm removing that it is NICE to have.

Any way here are the first few pics. I've already pulled the engine harness (I still need to go thru the chassis harness) and the butchered intake.



06-09-2010, 07:21 PM
Another silvertop? what? :)

Nice pickup! Unfortunately, its difficult to find such a clean example (body wise) up here....

How long are we thinking before she becomes road-worthy?

06-09-2010, 08:32 PM
That sucks it turned out to be a headache.

Fortunately you have a clue of what you are doing.

Hipster Lawrence
06-09-2010, 10:18 PM
Another silvertop? what? :)

no this one will stay a 16v until I get money for a black top beams so I can embarrass turbo mr2 and such.

How long are we thinking before she becomes road-worthy?

Well it was road worthy yesterday I drove it 450 miles home.

That sucks it turned out to be a headache.

Fortunately you have a clue of what you are doing.

I'm not worried about it. I have almost everything I need off the 16vs that came out of the silver and the white mr2s.

I just sent a lowball offer to someone on c4ag for the rwd specific stuff I need.

It looks like I'm going to have to fix that fuel line though I think it may go all the way to the back of the car. Any ideas on how to repair a fuel line safely?

06-09-2010, 10:32 PM
I have never messed with high pressure fuel lines. Only low pressure.

You could cut it, then flare it, run some braided line into the bay. That would be the only way I could think of without replacing it all with hardline. That isn't cheap though as the fittings can get rather expensive.

06-10-2010, 01:16 AM
Why not just use fuel injection hose?

Hipster Lawrence
06-10-2010, 02:07 AM
Why not just use fuel injection hose?

With hose clamps? Eh I don't know it seems like kind of a safety hazard. It's good enough for nissan and subaru though. I may end up doing that.

I could also re flare both ends and put a short piece of line in between. Like repairing a brake hose. I'm going to get with s2s and tweak and see what kind of braided option I can come up with.

But look what I found, A ported head.
This one has a bad spot in the port I'm not sure why they didn't smooth it out there but oh well


I'm not quite sure why someone would port a bigpport head, maybe he was planning on a turbo or something. All the valves are new too. I guess that's a good thing.

Or should I chunk this ported head and use a stock one (I have 2 extra)

06-10-2010, 02:19 AM
So easy a caveman could do it....

06-10-2010, 02:48 AM
I'm not quite sure why someone would port a bigpport head, maybe he was planning on a turbo or something. All the valves are new too. I guess that's a good thing.

Custom ground cam? Even then I don't see it unless the whole shebang was balanced for high rpm.

My guess would be that it was meant to go turbo, or the kid was a complete amateur that had little clue of what he was doing.

06-10-2010, 02:54 AM
They have fuel injection hose specific clamps. Use 2 on each side and you should be alright for a temporary fix.

I have this done on Ellie just off the fuel tank. She's got about 9" of line that I band-aided together and its held for the last 2 years as alltracNyx's daily...

06-10-2010, 03:27 AM
nice coupe. I pulled my engine out of the 86 today to put in my gze block and bolt this turbo on. Gimme a call if you need anything. i have lots of stuffz

oh put the tvis back in asap! its needed bad to get any type of low end, or at least mine SUCKS with out it and the JDM ecu setup.

06-10-2010, 03:33 AM

06-10-2010, 03:37 AM
Nice man. Going to be a great DD when you finish!

06-10-2010, 03:41 AM
when you get running right it will a sweet ride.

06-10-2010, 04:16 AM
i have a complete set of fuel and rear brake lines if you want them. cant really ship them though

Hipster Lawrence
06-10-2010, 02:14 PM
Bugs I'm going to be in PC this summer sometime but if the oil gets there first I'll probably go to NOLA instead. Either way I'll be there in august or september. What do you want for them?

Andy I need lots of stuff.

the metal vacuum lines on the intake for the EGR and such.

EGR tube or the whole EGR system

Fuel line from the fuel filter back towards the tank

A good fuel sending unit

HVAC control in good cond.

Let me know. I probably need other stuff. If you see a good trunk carpet set for a coupe in your junkyard adventures snag it I'm good for it. mine is completely gone.

Also on my mk1 with the headlights down if you pull the lever to flash the brights the lights will pop up and go back down when you release the lever.

Is the ae86 supposed to do that? Cause mine doesn't

Why would someone bypass the starter relay?

Oh and this thing has 225 60 r 14 tires on the back. I look like a redneck riding around in it.

06-10-2010, 03:28 PM
just send me a pm before your coming through. ill take like 10 bucks for them. they are hanging in my basement and are in great shape. andy has all my engine/suspension/and pretty much everything else that was good on my car. he just snagged my gas tank about a month ago and he doors and hatch.

Hipster Lawrence
06-10-2010, 08:31 PM
That's cool like I said I think the first week of september I'll be somewhere on the gulf coast. It's too bad I can't bring the corolla though, I'll be in my cherokee.

Hipster Lawrence
06-11-2010, 12:22 AM
You wouldn't happen to have a dash / front chassis harness would you? Mine is hacked, I can fix it but if you got a good one...

06-11-2010, 04:27 AM
i have those steel van lines you need.

06-11-2010, 01:31 PM
the dash harness is good i think, its still in the car though. the car is at the body shop that i used to work at so i have access to it. it is in line to be crushed next time they clear out the cars though.

Hipster Lawrence
06-11-2010, 06:07 PM
What would you want to pull it and ship it? I bet it would fit in one of those flat rate boxes.

06-11-2010, 06:30 PM
maybe so, the main thing is finding time to go get it. i wont charge you too much

Hipster Lawrence
06-11-2010, 08:41 PM
let me know.

Hipster Lawrence
06-14-2010, 01:54 AM
I've made some progress in the last week. Pulled most of the interior to sort out the wiring and clean everything up replace bulbs etc.
Found this relay missing and this relay jumpered not sure why. I'm pretty sure it's an ac relay. The AC amplifier was also unplugged when I got the car so I'm not sure what's going on there.
Also the starter relay was bypassed to a push button but according to the BGB there is no starter relay.
The fuel pump is also wired into the ignition switch not sure why that was done either.

Bugs, If you can't get me the whole front chassis/dash harness at least snag this fuse box

Did some painting in the engine bay.

06-14-2010, 04:42 AM
they jumped the ac box to make the compressor run whenever the button is pushed. could freeze your shit up tho so be carful.

Hipster Lawrence
06-20-2010, 07:16 PM
It runs again.

I have figured out why the fuel pump was not running some broken wire on the drivers side fuse box. I have no clue why the PO couldn't figure it out though because the place where he tapped into the fuel pump wiring is like 3 inches from said broken wire.

The AC is not working anymore I must've blown a fuse because it worked before and I can jump the compressor clutch and it will work ok. Weird cause it was working when I first got the car running today, oh well.

The wiring is still a mess, I need to go through I think the ac amplifier is bad and the starter still doesn't work unless you bypass the relay but the relay seems to be working. I'm thinking maybe it has a bad starter and bypassing the relay gets more amps to the solenoid. Who knows.

Pics of HKS filter setup later today.

06-21-2010, 02:55 AM
Coming along good. That things going to be sweet when you've got it finished.

Hipster Lawrence
08-04-2010, 02:55 PM
OK I have been slacking off updating this thread so here goes:

I have been removing the VHT nightshades (lens tint) from the taillights. It's a TON of work.

Started with 600 went to 800 using some goo gone to soften the paint. Then went to 1000 then sprayed clear on then sanded with 1000 again then 1500 then 2000. Finally buffing with meguiars ultimate compound 3 times and putting on about 3 coats of car wax.

Also made a intake with an HKS SMF filter that used to be on my honda. Used a reducing elbow from siliconeintakes.com.

Put on a cheap ass OBX header. After 5 miles the "ceramic coating" started flaking.

Full exhaust from header back is new. Used a magnaflow muffler and cat, added a flex pipe to the downpipe of the header. Sounds a little ricey at 3-3.5k rpm. There is not really room for a resonator though. I'd go with a chambered flowmaster next time. The sound is livable though and quiet on the highway.

08-04-2010, 06:47 PM
very nice! i have a dynamax turbo and a vw resonator off a jetta or something. 2.25 inch pipe. you know how it sounds :)

Hipster Lawrence
08-04-2010, 07:33 PM
Cool I saw a really short resonator on a VW the other day. Is it a triangle shaped resonator? I'd have a ton of room for a resonator if I didn't have a cat. are you running a cat Andy?

BTW i lowered it on espiller blue springs. Still on blown shocks but it actually rides better on the drop springs. The stance is awesome. I'll try and get some pics of that up tonight.

My plan is to have her dragon ready for 2011 but we will see.

08-04-2010, 07:44 PM
nice progress man.

08-05-2010, 06:09 AM
no cat, not required in alabama, or at least not checked for. and yeah its the triangle one.

08-05-2010, 11:23 PM
Those tail lights came out really good! Nice work!

Mr Celica
08-06-2010, 12:03 AM
god i want one of these cars. just don't want it to be a rust pile like any 80s toyota up in NH.. :(

08-06-2010, 12:32 AM
I can only imagine the effort it took to get those taillights looking that good.

Hipster Lawrence
08-06-2010, 02:38 AM
god i want one of these cars. just don't want it to be a rust pile like any 80s toyota up in NH.. :(

You should get one. I absolutely love mine It is sooo much fun to drive even with shit brakes, blown shocks, worn out bushings etc. I can only imagine how much fun it'll be with everything good.

I am starting to think it's a more fun car than the mk1. Sure the mk1 is faster and handles better but the ae86 is really easy to drive almost miataish in a way. plus I can pimp the seat back in the rolla.

In other news my poly bushings arrived today. So once I get those in I will be riding on halfway decent suspension. RF shock blown, rear shocks jack down but everything else will be new.

Hipster Lawrence
08-12-2010, 03:58 PM
Modified an mk1 mr2 heatshield to fit the chinese header.

Made a 1/0 gauge starter cable.

How it sits with is't new springs.

After 16 hours or so here are the tint free taillights. Removing tint from lenses is a JOB I wouldn't recommend anyone try this unless you have alot of patience.


Next up is all new brakes, hoses out. I think my master cyl is ok but everything else is going out.

08-12-2010, 04:11 PM
bah your car is shiney!

08-13-2010, 11:42 PM
Looking really good.

Hipster Lawrence
08-13-2010, 11:53 PM
bah your car is shiney!

Too shiney. It's really orange peeled. I'm going to have to wet sand it this fall. It also will need to be re cleared in spots. I wish they hadn't even done a clearcoat paint job.

08-14-2010, 07:54 AM
mines got like 5 different paints on it. some primer some shiney some nice honda paint and some doo doo ass lacqer shit.

08-14-2010, 09:19 PM
I sanded some VHT off of those tail lights that I had on my car at the Dragon. Talk about a pain in the ass. It took me two days of hard work just for one. And I was only doing the turn signals and the reverse lights!

Hipster Lawrence
08-20-2010, 12:44 AM
So I tried wet sanding part of the hood and one of the fenders. The sanding part went ok but my buffer is not strong enough to take all the scratches out. It will take off the haze but it's still dull with light scratches.

I just have a cheap 10" buffer. I guess it's really just made for waxing it sucks cause I don't have 250 bucks for a real buffer and all the accessories right now.

08-20-2010, 05:13 AM
How fine was the sand paper you were using? I wet sanded part of the hood on my MK2 and buffed it by hand and I couldnt see any scratches.

Hipster Lawrence
08-20-2010, 11:40 PM
Really? I'm using 2000 grit.

What compound should I be using maybe that's the problem.

08-21-2010, 05:13 AM
I went from 2000 to 4000 grit then used some turtle wax buffing compound, it turned out pretty nicely for old shitty paint.

Hipster Lawrence
08-21-2010, 07:43 PM
I've never even seen 4000. Where did you get it? all see on google is micr mesh paper and from what I can tell 2000 grit sandpaper is the same is 6000 grit micro mesh.

08-22-2010, 02:32 AM
Oh lol maybe it wasn't 4000. It's been a while since I have done it, I guess it must have been 2000. Doh!

Hipster Lawrence
08-25-2010, 06:28 PM
Ok so I've worked the hood with 2000. Followed with Meguiars ultimate compound and a wool pad on a rotary buffer. That got the scratches out but left holograms so I used the UC with a foam pad and the same buffer, no more holograms. Then I used some eagle one nano wax I had to see how it will look:

Pic of orange peel on fender for reference

I'm not done yet by a long shot. This was really an experiment. I'm going to go to the auto body supply store and pick up some REAL compound and a glaze made for dark cars along with the correct buffer pads. And a decent polishing cloth or 2 so I can quit scratching the car right after it's been buffed.

using a rotary buffer is easy, not nearly as hard as everyone makes it out to be. IF you use the right product ie; A wool pad is super aggressive I doubt I even need it at all.

08-25-2010, 07:40 PM
Wow thats quite the improvement! Nice work on the mad tyte 86!

Hipster Lawrence
08-25-2010, 10:43 PM
I lied there are still some holograms/swirl marks. I think I'll be able to get rid of those with the 3m comp and pad.

08-26-2010, 07:38 AM
bah, i wish i had half bad paint to work on, its all messed up, like all of it

Hipster Lawrence
10-06-2010, 07:40 PM
bah, i wish i had half bad paint to work on, its all messed up, like all of it

I'm starting to wish mine looked like yours. This shit is alot of work. I will never have a black car again.

I'm done compounding it though.

Still has some swirls fuck it. I am done.
This is what I used to finish it with. I'm still going to seal it (techwax) again and then wax it with gold class wax to really be done but that will be over the next few weeks.


Brakes is next. Got the rotors, wheel seals, caliper kits, And the hardware kit on close out from rockauto for less than a bill shipped. The pads and fluid came from worldpac and the hoses came from tire rack. Less than 300 bucks total.

10-06-2010, 10:13 PM
mmmm, come get some fuely lines buddy!

Hipster Lawrence
10-06-2010, 11:29 PM
I will. I'm planing on this sunday. You decided if you'll be there? If not I may wait another week since my sister is trying to get Braves playoff tickets now.

10-06-2010, 11:46 PM
well i dont know when ill get home sunday, but i will be out of town every weekend this month so whenever you wnna come get them ill just leave them out for you...

10-07-2010, 12:54 AM
The car is really looking good. I know what you mean about black. The wife's 300M is black. It looks great clean but it's a bitch to keep clean.

Hipster Lawrence
10-10-2010, 01:16 AM
Did the front brakes today. It was time to rebuild the calipers for sure. The square seals were cracking.

Feels sooooooo much better with good pads and brake hoses in the front. Like a different car.

Oh and My genius ass... Last month when I did the springs I found these really nice chrome toyota lugnuts at work. So I decided to put them on, Long story short today I realized that these lugnuts (the kind with the washer and shank were incorrect and not allowing the front wheels to tighten all the way.

Hipster Lawrence
10-23-2010, 07:49 PM
Last week I drove down to Mayberry Alabama where bugs lives to get some fuel lines. This week I went hiking
And got my car really dirty on the gravel roads. My car was fine on both of those trips.
Yesterday on my way to take my wife to work ( because the alternator in her jeep went out) the timing belt broke.
Crazy good thing I have the aw11.

Anyway the rolla has a new t belt now and the jeep has a new alternator.
Eventful weekend I also got this sweet ass iPhone.

Hipster Lawrence
10-23-2010, 07:52 PM
It sucks cause I was supposed to be making Alton brown chili today
And ended up putting a timing belt on instead. I guess I'll have frozen
Pizza for dinner tonite

10-23-2010, 10:14 PM
makes me miss mine :(

looking good. keep it coming

10-25-2010, 08:08 PM
have fun putting them lines on! thats a chore.

10-25-2010, 08:46 PM
The SS lines on my TE were more tedious then anything, but it was only about a 45 minute job after looking it over awhile.

Love the way your AE is coming out. Very clean.

Hipster Lawrence
10-27-2010, 03:35 PM
Bugs is talking about the fuel lines I got.

The Goodridge stainless lines were cake. They install easier than an oe lin cause you don't have to worry about twisting them as the fittings kind of swivel.

Inly thing is that the C-clips that go on the struts don't really fit. I need to address that soon. Maybe just a zip tie fix. It's raining today though.

10-27-2010, 08:36 PM
two zip ties in an x pattern will solve your problem

10-28-2010, 04:46 AM
two zip ties in an x pattern will solve your problem

thats how the fronts are on my gts

10-28-2010, 06:29 AM
That's how they are on my MR2 also.

Hipster Lawrence
11-07-2010, 01:02 AM
Ok the brakes are finished and the steel braided lines made quite an

Lately I've been polishing this 14x6 supra wheel (yes it's a 14x6 its some knock off made
for a fwd it has like +35 offset.

It's not perfect by a long shot but it's my first polishing project and I'm pretty happy with it on to the other 3

11-07-2010, 06:29 AM
Ok the brakes are finished and the steel braided lines made quite an

Lately I've been polishing this 14x6 supra wheel (yes it's a 14x6 its some knock off made
for a fwd it has like +35 offset.

It's not perfect by a long shot but it's my first polishing project and I'm pretty happy with it on to the other 3

I thought those wheels came off a van... maybe I'm thinking of the meshies...

Looks awesome though, I wish the wheels on the supra looked that nice.

Hipster Lawrence
12-19-2010, 03:15 PM
OK update no pics tho.

I found 2 14x7 supras for free! along with a set of celica supra p-type seats.

Installing the seats was easy but I had to swap the seats onto the ae86 seat rails. That worked but the supra seats are so much heavier than the mr2 seats I had the spring in the bracket wouldn't lift the seat back. So I had to swap the springs from the supra seat brackets, I was scared to doo this since there was alot of tension on the springs. Believe it or not it was super easy lto just grab them with channelocks.

I had my wife sew up the drivers bolster and it looks awesome. Today she is going to the fabric store for some foam to add to the back of the drivers seat. I'll post pics after I'm done and the seats are clean.

OMG the brakes have been kicking my butt. I rebuilt the front calipers, that went smooth, the rear caliper boots were new so I assumed the PO had rebuilt the calipers. Nope. Got it all back together and the RR caliper is dragging BAD! Rebuilt RR caliper and problem is better but still dragging. So I ended up ordering new calipers, pads, anti rattle springs bolts and slides from the dealer. Only 350 bucks.

I got a new gas tank from rockauto, going to install that with a new fuel pump the lines I got from bugs and an oe fuel filter. I have a feeling that I have a hot rod fuel pump in the SR5 tank the PO stuck me with.

My driveshaft center bearing is bad, just noticed that.

The power steering idler/tensioner pulley is making noise and seems impossible to get for a reasonable price.

I'm still getting shit gas mileage. 25.5 max highway (on a good week) and 20 in the city having fun. It smells rich but there's no cat. My plans for that are getting a fresh oem fuel pump, an MSD coil, delete the clutch fan, and send the injectors off to witchhunter. Beyond that I have no idea why the mpg sucks so bad.

Pics soon.

12-20-2010, 07:41 AM
You might be able to press out the bearing on the pulley and put another one in. If you can press the bearing out you probably can get another one from car quest or something.

Hipster Lawrence
12-29-2010, 05:23 PM
Here's a pic of the foam I'm putting in it's an inch thick.
My new radio.
The one polished wheel. After all that work I'm thinking of painting them silver and black with a polished lip. Any ideas?

Hipster Lawrence
01-09-2011, 04:02 PM
Ok started on this today.

I wanted to use both fans but the driver side one won't clear the power steering. One should be more than enough anyway. I'm planning on wiring this up in the normal Toyota way with a failsafe.

When I fix my AC I'm going to go get a small pusher fan to cool the condenser.

Hipster Lawrence
03-12-2011, 02:29 PM
Pretty much finished the aw11 fan install.

fuse box and wiring.
Fans or passenger side fan and driver fan shroud. even with the PS deleted the fan on the left side does not clear the AC tensioner, I have some ideas though. I may try an aluminum replacement radiator which will have a thinner core. If that does not work I'll go with a small puller fan inside the stock (aw11) left shroud.

OR just run one fan. but that idea just bothers me for some reason.

PS deleted with aw11 AC bracket and crank pulley. The outer pulley on the ae86 is too far out for the belt to line up. Fortunately the inside pulley is the same or close enough.