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Flux
05-28-2010, 04:39 AM
Installed Finally, Heres the Pics...


Ok, Got it done.


Heres a few pics.... Sorry, phone pics...


1.New ST springs and Harbor freight $10 compressor... (Get the $40 one, its worth it...)
http://i48.tinypic.com/2w2mwrc.jpg
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http://i50.tinypic.com/2z4bn1z.jpg

2. Taken apart
http://i47.tinypic.com/wb55zn.jpg

3.Compressing the stock spring... hoping we wont die lol
http://i50.tinypic.com/2d9pl51.jpg

4.Fronts in...
http://i47.tinypic.com/sne1hl.jpg

5.New favorite tool. Back top nut was seized so we busted this out...
http://i46.tinypic.com/2pzaa80.jpg

6.Lowered finally.
http://i50.tinypic.com/208xt05.jpg

7.Quick picture under a street light...
http://i47.tinypic.com/2w1rqj6.jpg

8.Day pic on the backyard, with the honda owner lol...
http://i45.tinypic.com/6drdpi.jpg

9.Front lowered
http://i45.tinypic.com/53aij9.jpg

10.Back lowered
http://i46.tinypic.com/10p2eyh.jpg

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Went to Portland today to pick up my set of Suspension Techniques springs.
There a 1.5" drop.
I feel kind of stupid now, but when I got home I measured my fender to tires clearance, its just about 1.5" in front. Rear is fine...

I have TC rims with 215/45/17s on now.

Will I have problems if my tires are this close? They do sit in about a 1/4 inch...
But will it turn ok and not rub, etc? --I've seen tires tucked under and run fine, but just confirming...

I have already planned on going to a 40 series tire, or just getting 16s for the car.

How does everyone else's 1.5 drop feel/ride?

-Thanks in advance...

---Ill post pics tomorrow when install is done...

Okctrd
05-28-2010, 06:45 AM
you may or may not hit up front but you can always remove the spash guards if it does.

and i'll be waiting for the pics :)

Flux
05-29-2010, 10:25 AM
Well, the fronts are in. Got a little busy today, so I wasn't able to get the backs in yet. They'll be in tomorrow though.

It looks and rides so much better up front. I love it. Nice ride, not too stiff not too soft but I'll need struts soon...

I'll post pics tomorrow, its late...

METDeath
05-29-2010, 04:30 PM
Go to a 40 series tire that will fix your problem. I run Eibach Sportline springs (1.5" drop) and 215/40/17 tires and I have no rubbing issues at all.

Flux
05-30-2010, 08:52 AM
Thanks, I'm due for tires soon anyway so I'll get some 40's.

Hit a snag tonight.
Got the rear passenger side out, but cant get the nut off the top, it spins with the strut. So I have to wait until Monday until when my friend can bring over his impact wrench.

So that's 2 design flaws.
1. Brake line slots = Non existent. Had to cut my own...
2. No flat spot to use a wrench or anything to hold the strut while taking the nut off.

Other than that, I could have been done by now. Oh well, I'm having fun doing this. As well as saving myself ~$600, since I'm a broke college kid lol...

Galcobar
05-30-2010, 10:59 AM
The strut rod has a flat spot on it -- the strut mount holds the strut rod. This is why it's generally suggested that the strut rod nut be loosened before the strut assembly is removed from the car. Alternately, clamp the strut mount and then break the nut loose.

As for the brake lines -- there are no slots, that's true. You're supposed to disconnect the line from the caliper. Not as easy since that requires bleeding but it ensures strength in the support.

Flux
06-01-2010, 01:50 AM
Ok, I tried loosening the nut while it was in the car, it still spun the strut rod...
I took it out and I could not find a flat spot. Where is it?

Anyway, I used vice grips to hold the rod in place while using an impact wrench to loosen the nut. Didn't budge at all....

Im thinking since they are the stock struts, I should just replace them, only $200, including new mounts, and bump stops...

I hate giving up, but i dont know what else to try, if an impact wrench cant get it off...

Okctrd
06-01-2010, 05:09 AM
Ok, I tried loosening the nut while it was in the car, it still spun the strut rod...
I took it out and I could not find a flat spot. Where is it?

Anyway, I used vice grips to hold the rod in place while using an impact wrench to loosen the nut. Didn't budge at all....

Im thinking since they are the stock struts, I should just replace them, only $200, including new mounts, and bump stops...

I hate giving up, but i dont know what else to try, if an impact wrench cant get it off...


+1 if you can replace the stock struts while your at it.

I sure wish i would of, now i have to do it all over again.

what struts you are you planning on getting? Kyb?

Flux
06-01-2010, 08:05 AM
Yeah, I'm going with the KYB's.

I have a question though...
When I buy new mounts do they come with the rubber peice and all the hardware needed or is it just the mount?

If I get new struts, will it sit higher for a while until there broke in?

And thanks for the help, its been fun so far...

Galcobar
06-01-2010, 08:36 AM
New mounts do not come with everything you need to properly seat the springs -- even buying full struts does not ensure this. You'll be looking at new spring seat insulators, which I've only ever seen supplied by Toyota.

That said, is the strut mount spinning? Because that's what can hold the strut rod in place. If the hole in the strut mount is rounded out and the strut rod spins inside the mount, then yes, you're going to have to replace the strut mount.

METDeath
06-01-2010, 11:22 AM
Could always put it back in the car and try then... I'd do that before buying new bits if the current bits are still good.

However, I will warn you, I had some fitment issues with KYB front strut mounts, one was just off enough, and the other didn't have the bolts put into it, it just had some blanks instead. Of course, the funny part is, KYB is the OEM for the suspension... you'd think they'd know how to make it... I guess they just use the stuff that doesn't meet Toyota's standards.

Flux
06-02-2010, 05:45 AM
Yeah, I tried with it in the car... I have a coupe so the tops are inside, right under the rear window so its a tight space... But I got my 1/2" ratchet in there and it still spun the strut rod...

Im going to give it one more shot before I make up my mind on buying new ones, since mine are still ok...

Im going to hit it with a torch and see if that will break it loose. I hope so, I'm getting tired of looking like Joe Dirt with the rear so high up lol. Plus I want to get it aligned before I really do need new tires.

Raze
11-23-2010, 06:20 AM
Hey that's my hand in that one pic, and my tourch which by the way guys don't spray wd40 on your bolts then hit it with the tourch cause the bbq smells great for a while then u have one Hell of a headache, and that's my Honda in that pic to.

KoreanJoey
11-24-2010, 02:24 AM
Glad to see you got it done.

PS: how is it being in a snowplow?

I think I picked up about 4-5" of snow on the front license plate over the last two days.

Flux
11-25-2010, 07:12 AM
Lol!
Well,
It was fun the first day. I had snow building up all along the front bumper from following bigger cars and trucks, and I live a good 10 minutes from town so my roads get bad...

But I went into town to apply at a few places for a new job, and on the last corner we had a little accident.
It was just slush on the road, but I lost traction and went head on to a telephone pole.

So Its in the garage with the whole front end off.
Need a new
-Tie bar ---ordered
-Crash bar ---ordered
-bumper ---have one
-Hood
-A/C delete, because I smashed the condenser pretty bad...

So, Im hating this snow.