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Hipster Lawrence
05-10-2010, 10:16 PM
Ok so I obvously need one since I keep getting tickets on the dragon.

What is the best? My budget will be 4-500 bucks but if I can get one for 300 that would be good too

I've been looking at the valentine one, Some of the escort detectors and the beltronics one.

Anyone have any experince with these?

T-spoon
05-10-2010, 10:29 PM
Valentine is the only one I've used/seen in use that seems to be worth a damn.

HOWEVER.. I don't really think any of them are worth the money, and tend to just give you a false sense of security. I suppose it depends on the cops in your area, but over the last few years both in Houston and now up here, it seems like fewer and fewer sit there with their radar on. I am better at spotting unmarked cops myself than a radar detector is at saving you from a ticket. They tend to eyeball their target first or randomly flick their radar on as people come around corners/down hills/etc. meaning that a good bit of the time all the detector can do is confirm that you sir, are in fact, screwed.

Luni
05-10-2010, 10:30 PM
I know Captain has a Valentine and hes never had any problems with it.

Siyx
05-10-2010, 10:36 PM
Hey here's a novel idea .... and its free. Not only that but it will save you money in the long run.....

slow the phuq down and enjoy the drive .... :D

There, saved ya a few bucks.

The Captain
05-10-2010, 10:48 PM
V1 with some type of laser diffuser.

Laser Star, K40 Defuser EX2, Anti-Laser, PASS, Laser ProPark and Laser Interceptor.

http://www.laserjammertests.com/

Luni
05-10-2010, 10:48 PM
You cant enjoy the drive if you slow the phuq down on the dragon. You cant go TOO fast on that road or you will phuq up, but even in an NA MR2 I was speeding coming out of some turns.

Radar detectors have their place. I just read a review that says valentine one isnt king dick anymore. Do a google search and read some shootouts.

T-spoon
05-10-2010, 10:52 PM
Yeah, I'm not going to go so far as saying that driving exactly at or under the speed limit at all times is the way to go (speed limits IMO are one of the most universally poorly implemented laws around), I'm just sayin' that in most cases they just don't seem to save your butt any more.

Luni
05-10-2010, 10:54 PM
On these roads they do Spoony. You cant see the cops on the dragon till theyve already nabbed your ass.

Unless you happen to be lucky and go by one who has already nabbed some other poor other bastards ass.

Hipster Lawrence
05-10-2010, 11:36 PM
Hey here's a novel idea .... and its free. Not only that but it will save you money in the long run.....

slow the phuq down and enjoy the drive .... :D

There, saved ya a few bucks.

On the dragon you have to really try to stay under 30 mph. I was doing 45 when I got nabbed. My foot was completely of the gas too, I may have even been in neutral but I'm not sure I know I was just coasting down a hill essentially. Not only that the way the power band and gearing is on my 20v it's REALLY hard to drive at 30-35 mph. You are either screaming in first or driving right in the powerband in second, it won't get out of its own way in third.

I NEVER drive super fast on the hwy. In fact this past weekend following all the guys up 75 was the fastest I've driven on the interstate in years.


V1 with some type of laser diffuser.

Laser Star, K40 Defuser EX2, Anti-Laser, PASS, Laser ProPark and Laser Interceptor.

http://www.laserjammertests.com/

I'll take this as gospel coming from you. The V1 is my first choice. Ijust wish I could afford one of those cool custom install detectors with the remote sensors.

Shadowlife25
05-11-2010, 12:01 AM
Beltronics STi-R
Escort 9100ci

Done/

Hipster Lawrence
05-11-2010, 12:38 AM
What makes those better than the V1?

Shadowlife25
05-11-2010, 01:11 AM
Pretty much everything.

The detection time is much sooner.
Earlier detection = greater distance between you and target.

Fully shielded (both units) against RDD.

Laser jammer in the escort unti.

Selectable frequencies in the Bel unit.
Ability to turn filtering to "OFF" (Higer sensitivity=more range but also more false positives)
GPS for camera radar and such in the Escot.

Basically, paired together these very much outperform a Valentine unit.
Their price is steep, but if you want the best, this is it.

I will also add that the Valentine units are GREAT!

These just have the newest tech that has been fully tested to outperform and fight the majority of "obstacles" an enthusiast or "spirited" driver may encounter.

Hipster Lawrence
05-11-2010, 04:57 PM
Looking at the beltronics and the escort I don't see either of those models. Mind navigating over there and seeing what the newer versions of those are?

My b-day is the 13th and I think I can get my Mommy to buy me one :)

Slider
05-11-2010, 11:29 PM
I had the passport 8500 x50, it worked great, I'm very satisfied. The 9500ix has GPS for red light cameras and also if you get a false alert you can mute it and the gps will remember the false next time you drive by it so it won't go off. Very nice when you drive by an area everyday that falses. If your state uses laser you'd still need some kind of laser jammer as nothing can really detect laser until it's too late. Laser jammers are illegal in some states, but you can have it wired to a toggle switch so it gives you enough time to slow down, then flip the jammer off so the cop can get a reading. Some of the jammers already come with that features IIRC. I haven't read up on the laser jammers in a while so you might want to google to see which one is the best.

Shadowlife25
05-12-2010, 12:09 AM
The Escort unit I mentioned comes with laser "shifters" (Jammers) and is selectable to detect and jam or detect only.

It is also upgradable via internet to update the GPS database for red light cameras.
Go read up on it, it is too feature rich for me to get into it efficiently.

It does have a HIGH price though. Cheapest I have found is $980.
MSRP is $1500 on it.

Also, Escort is made by Beltronics. ;)

Hipster Lawrence
05-12-2010, 12:59 AM
I think I'm going to go with the 9500ix. The more I think about it I don't really want an installed detector since I have more than one car.

I can add a laser jammer to the 9500ix later down the road. for about 500 bucks and still be under the cost of the installed escort unit that has the same specs as the windshield mounted one other than remote sensors.

Shadowlife25
05-12-2010, 03:43 AM
Just be sure to read up on all the features and a full comparison of the different models before you chose one.

It is all about what is right for YOU and your driving habits.
Try to take into account where you live and what the common speed measurement methods are for your area.

grayscale
05-12-2010, 03:53 PM
Belltronics is my brand of choice.

It seems most of people have a bad concept of radar guns and radar detectors.

First off, the reason laser has been different from other radar is because it is instant on. The laser is only really on and detectable when it is being pointed at you whereas other types of radar have to be on already to get an accurrate reading of your speed. That being said, there is no such thing as a laser detector, it's just not possible.

The reason I say has been is because of the invention of the POPKa radar band which was specifically designed to deter radar detectors. It is not instant on persay, but rather it constantly changes the frequecy it scans at so that an unequipped detector will not be able to identify it.

Radar detectors work very well as long as you follow some very basic rules.
1- You must trust your radar detector. If you don't, then you've wasted your money.
2-Don't bother going the speed limit. If you do, then you've wasted your money.
3- Don't speed any faster than you have time to slow down for. If you are within range of a typical radar you have approx. 3 seconds from the time your detector goes off to the time the radar has a lock on you. Factor in your reaction time. If you pick up the radar signal from a long distance(some detectors are capable of up to 2 miles) then you have more time, but don't count on it. Usually you will have about 1 second or so to slow down your speed, so stay around 10mph over the accepted speed in your area. If cops don't bother people for 5 over where you are than do 15 over. If you go any faster you risk getting busted and you've wasted your money.
4- Detectors can not defend against cops who use their radars improperly. Such as ones who use say a Ka band radar but turn it on at the last second or ones who use it while moving. Don't blame your radar for getting busted like this.

There are quite a few more things I could list but these are the basics.
So best detectors out there? Beltronics and Escort brands. The Valentine is a joke and a waste, in the many years since they introduced their product they have failed to update it regularly to meet todays standards and it is now archaic in comparison. Beltronics RX65 and Escort Passport9500i are the top of the line at well over $300 new.

Best detector under $300? Well that depends on whether you buy it new or not. I bought my most recent one on eBay barely used for $103 and it does just about everything inluding POPKa detection. It just so happens that you can get the same model new for $150. It's the Beltronics Vector 940.

The website www.radardetectors.com is probably the authority on all things detector like. It is owned and operated by a retired state trooper that gives you all the info you need to know. He field tests most all of the products he sells. He also still travels around training other cops on how to use radar guns, so you could say he's still in the loop. Check out that site for more tips on detector usage and ratings.

bloodMoney
05-12-2010, 05:38 PM
^Werd.

I LOVE my Beltronics 995.

I used it on the Dragon too...

Luni
05-12-2010, 07:20 PM
I dont know if Id say Valentine is a joke and a waste. Captains has saved our crew from several tickets.

In fact, had I not remembered where a certain cop was on the Dragon, he would have saved me from a ticket too. His detector has always given what it should and has NEVER missed a cop when Ive been with him.

That said, Im sure theres better for the money, but the Valentine seems like a good unit as well.

Cavanagh
05-12-2010, 08:17 PM
I have a Passport Escort 8500i and I love it, it's saved me a few times to say the least.

alternate.eago
05-12-2010, 08:57 PM
I have a Belltronics RX65 Pro, it was totally worth the purchase price when I bought it. The only thing I need to compliment it would be Laser Jammers, as every time I got nailed for speeding it was with a Laser.

The RX65 Pro has a laser detection mode, but no ability to Jam them.
Other than that I've been pleased with my purchase.

Shadowlife25
05-12-2010, 10:44 PM
there is no such thing as a laser detector, it's just not possible.


I'll leave it to you to go and check the website you mentioned to find the fallacy here.

I will say that they do exist, AND work.

Also, read up on the two models I mentioned.
They are listed there. :)

grayscale
05-13-2010, 05:53 PM
My Bell Vector says it's a "laser detector". The fallacy is that none of them can detect the laser in time to keep you from getting caught. If a detector detects a laser it's because it's already being pointed at you or in your direction which=busted.

Legacyofdan
05-13-2010, 06:38 PM
So where i live only staties use radar, but staties only patrol the highways and such....everyone else uses an over glorified stop watch called vascar...good luck spotting a cop using vascar using a radar detector....i slow down for those white lines across the road almost every time...

VikingJZ
05-13-2010, 06:46 PM
I have a $60 Cobra one. It works fine for me, but I really don't speed. I mainly use it for when I'm in small towns that way I know where cops are. I do this so I know I should come to a complete stop and do all the routine things when the police are watching.

On the highway, its more of an unmarked car aid.

They can also be an aid for me for when I don't feel like stopping for a check-point in said small towns and being questioned for ten minutes when I am on my way home. I don't really drink, and especially not when I'm going to drive. This way, I can just skip down a side street and get back on my way. I avoid the hassle of having to repeat myself five times reiterating that I'm simply going home for the night. Just a personal thing I guess.


Ok so I obvously need one since I keep getting tickets on the dragon.

What is the best? My budget will be 4-500 bucks but if I can get one for 300 that would be good too

I've been looking at the valentine one, Some of the escort detectors and the beltronics one.

Anyone have any experince with these?


Check your local CraigsList. You may find someone parting with a V1 for cheap. Or eBay.

Atus
05-13-2010, 11:16 PM
RadarDetector wont save if your car will be alone on road. At best i was able slow down from ~160km/h to ~120km/h when got 1vs1 with cops on empty road :(

goretro77
05-14-2010, 12:08 AM
My vote is for the Valentine One. I have my Elise wired so that the V1 is on the windshield of my Elise all of the time and it has 'suggested' that I mind my speed more than a few times. This happens just before I enter a speed trap or encounter a rolling police car.

Hipster Lawrence
05-20-2010, 10:47 PM
went with the passport 9500ix

The main reason I chose the escort over the v1 is the GPS function. I'll let you guys know how I like it.

Shadowlife25
05-21-2010, 09:59 AM
Please do! :)

Hipster Lawrence
10-06-2010, 02:18 PM
Please do! :)

OK so after 5 months I can say that this thing is awesome.

It has a database of redlight cameras, speedtraps, etc, that is updated monthly (you have to pay for updates tho which is bullshit IMO)

It has a GPS speedo built in.

It will automatically weed out false alarms after you drive past them a few times. Or I can manually eliminate the false alarm.

The volume adjusts automatically, as does the brightness of the display.

The V1 doesn't do any of this.


All in all I love the thing. $500 is alot for a radar detector but I think it's worth it, I mean can you REALLY trust a 60 dollar detector?

Cavanagh
10-06-2010, 05:09 PM
Thats why I saved myself 100 bucks and got the one right below that. Does great for me and I love it! Minus Lasers :(

Hipster Lawrence
10-06-2010, 07:31 PM
The one without GPS or laser? I considered that one too. Mine has picked up lazer twice. Once it was early enough for me to slow down, the other time it was not but I was driving slow.

My sister has the one that takes aa batteries. I really like it too no cords. It is only about 200 i think and it seems to be just as accurate as mine. It just doesn't have the features or expandability of mine.