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RedRkt01
04-11-2010, 01:22 AM
.....to install. I had a sonofabitchofa time trying to single handedly install one last night. I've done it before, but completely forgot how frustrating it can be.

Galcobar
04-11-2010, 10:36 AM
Yes they do -- I particularly enjoyed the section between the gas tank and the brake lines.

KoreanJoey
04-11-2010, 11:00 PM
It wasn't that bad. Ok, I lied, it does kinda suck. I dropped my gas tank and pulled a strut to install mine.

RedRkt01
04-12-2010, 02:14 PM
I rounded another brakeline banjo bolt yesterday so I see myself removing the tank also for the rear. I'll have to do it anyway to reinstall the massive #3 brake line once it arrives from Toyota.

KoreanJoey
04-13-2010, 04:21 AM
WTF dude, did you not remember me telling you to use a line wrench?

RedRkt01
04-13-2010, 02:11 PM
WTF dude, did you not remember me telling you to use a line wrench?

I used penetrating oil and a line wrench. So yes, I did remember!

KoreanJoey
04-14-2010, 07:08 AM
Buy a better line wrench...

RedRkt01
04-15-2010, 01:43 PM
Suggestions? I use craftsman tools ftmp.

KoreanJoey
04-19-2010, 12:36 AM
Matco? Snap On? MAC?

Doowstados
04-27-2010, 05:35 AM
Snap-On. The rest are fail ~o~

Crapsman < 99 cent store tools

:)

Legacyofdan
04-27-2010, 02:02 PM
i wish i had the money for snap-on :(

KoreanJoey
04-28-2010, 07:30 AM
Honestly I don't buy anything snap-on, nothing against the tools, it's just that my dealer is a huge bag o crap.

4thgenceli
04-28-2010, 07:57 AM
Snap-On. The rest are fail ~o~

Crapsman < 99 cent store tools

:)
My toolboxes are filled with mostly Craftsman products. Never had any catastrophic phailures with their products, and my local Sears stores are great with warrenty.

When I was a grease tech, it was mostly Macto/snapon around the shop due to the vans coming by. I despise them honestly, overpriced & the salesman are really pushy.

RedRkt01
04-28-2010, 02:12 PM
There's nothing wrong with craftsman. I buy for the lifetie replacement if anything does go wrong. I busted a socket once, but that's it. I think I'm just having bad luck with banjo bolts that haven't moved since installation 21 years ago. Enough about the tools already.

Legacyofdan
04-28-2010, 02:45 PM
well have you been able to pull the round bolt yet?

RedRkt01
04-28-2010, 03:13 PM
With respect to the brake line, which has just about jacked this thread, no. It doesn't matter anyway because a non-removable, rounded bolt is useless for reuse. Even if I got it off how would I use it again? Am I going to trust that I can get it bolted on tight enough? I decided to replace the whole brake line which should arrive anyday. Besides, it gives me an excuse to drop the tank and upgrade the rear swaybar with the one I have waiting in my parts room. Back to sway bars.......

Legacyofdan
04-28-2010, 04:19 PM
i was just curious if you got it off...i am sorry :(
but yes rear sway bars....are not half bad to deal with....when you have the whole entire rear subframe out, or in the case of FF the gas tank.

RedRkt01
04-28-2010, 05:48 PM
Don't be sorry, Dan. I had to say something because this thread started going in a second and third direction. I hope the rear is easier with the tank down and all that. I'll be installed poly endlinks at the same time. So it should be interesting.

KoreanJoey
04-30-2010, 07:12 AM
Breaking the tools are less of the issue with cheap tools than things like ROUNDING BOLTS/NUTS.
Better tools = harder steel; harder steel = less flex; less flex = less rounded fasteners.

donteatbugs
04-30-2010, 11:37 AM
i didnt think my swaybar was that bad... i just lowered the subframe in the front and wiggled it in there.



i agree with joey about better tools on things like open end wrenches. i have some cheap gm goodwrench metric wrenches that will round a too tight bolt. on the other hand my gear wrenches seem to be on par with craftsman or maybe better.

RedRkt01
04-30-2010, 02:01 PM
Breaking the tools are less of the issue with cheap tools than things like ROUNDING BOLTS/NUTS.
Better tools = harder steel; harder steel = less flex; less flex = less rounded fasteners.

I can believe in that logic.

CelicaGT4
05-26-2010, 06:08 PM
I don't see the problem. I removed the old one and installed the whiteline in less than 20 min.

Then I cleaned up the old one and found out it was already a whiteline...doh!

aye87
05-26-2010, 07:27 PM
I don't see the problem. I removed the old one and installed the whiteline in less than 20 min.

Then I cleaned up the old one and found out it was already a whiteline...doh!

you have two white line?

Physlis
05-27-2010, 04:22 AM
Dude, if you got a Whitline front for a 5th gen, I'll take it off your hands. That's pretty much the only thing I wasn't able to get for my suspension build.

On topic; hopefully I won't have too many problems doing my rear swaybar when the celi gets enough down-time for the suspension upgrades.

andy
05-27-2010, 05:05 AM
i just go for vice grips on those brake line fittings, fuck your line wrench.

david in germany
05-27-2010, 02:30 PM
If you drove a 22r powered beast you would not be having these problems.. the oil you loose over the years keep the underside of the vehicle lubed all the time. ;)

RedRkt01
05-27-2010, 02:32 PM
haha!

RedRkt01
05-27-2010, 02:33 PM
i just go for vice grips on those brake line fittings, fuck your line wrench.

That might actually work.

Sifu
05-29-2010, 02:57 AM
That might actually work.
It does and it's what I usually use if my other wrenches are definitely round them.

As for the Crapsman vs. Matco/SnapOn/Etc. debate I'm personally pleased with my sets. They are decently priced, usually on sale and have never failed me. Granted I would love to own a proper SnapOn set it's just way over my budget and for the most part I'm just an enthusiast.