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CoolHand1134
12-30-2009, 11:27 PM
i have the money saved to rebuild my 5sfe!! just a few questions before i order parts

will the motor out of a 90 gt fit right in to a 92 gt with no wiring swap?

what are my options for a bore and stroker kit?

what are some of things you wish you had put on your rebuild?

Shadowlife25
12-30-2009, 11:39 PM
i have the money saved to rebuild my 5sfe!! just a few questions before i order parts

will the motor out of a 90 gt fit right in to a 92 gt with no wiring swap?

what are my options for a bore and stroker kit?

what are some of things you wish you had put on your rebuild?


A: How much do you have set aside?

B: From 90-92 there are some definite differences.
You will no longer have a knock sensor.

You will need to swap the following from your '92 engine:
Intake Manifold
Distributor
Spark plug wires
Throttle body

C: Stroker is alot of work and $$$ to do properly .
You would be better off waiting until you have much higher budget for this.

D: A 3sgte swap is the usual recommendation for an upgrade.
It is also the route most go with given they have the time budget and mechanical aptitude.
It is HEAVILY documented here on the site.
If you have a question, we have the answer.

Carolina91GT-S
12-30-2009, 11:48 PM
What he said.

Why are you rebuilding it and how many miles are on it?

are you rebuilding the 92 5SFE or transplanting the 90 5SFE into your 92?

CoolHand1134
12-30-2009, 11:49 PM
i dont have a budget i have come in to some money and want to spend it i am looking at maybe $3000 of play money and want a new motor. i do not want a turbo.

Carolina91GT-S
12-30-2009, 11:52 PM
i dont have a budget i have come in to some money and want to spend it i am looking at maybe $3000 of play money and want a new motor. i do not want a turbo.

now I am confused

If you are adventurous, want a new engine, do not want a turbo, you could go with with a V6 swap. The 3SGTE and the available V6s are within your $ figure if you do the work yourself

or for $3000 you could buy a different car, I have seen several in Canada lately within that price range

CoolHand1134
12-30-2009, 11:53 PM
What he said.

Why are you rebuilding it and how many miles are on it?

are you rebuilding the 92 5SFE or transplanting the 90 5SFE into your 92?

the 90 is my parts car and the 92 is my DD. the 90 has a broken timing belt and over 400000kms (250000mi)

Carolina91GT-S
12-30-2009, 11:56 PM
So you want to rebuild the 90 engine and put it in the 92 once it is finished...and continue driving the 90 in the meantime.

I still think you can do better for the $ and effort required than to go this route. I have been in exactly your position before I have a torn down 5SFE still sitting in boxes and haven't looked back.

Shadowlife25
12-30-2009, 11:57 PM
Well, hate to break it to you, but no turbo = no power per $$$ spent.

Every 5s-gte stroker build uses a turbine.

The 5s is a very expensive platform to modify for almost no return.

If you want a running reliable car, just put in the donor engine and call it a day.

If you want power, give up on NA as your starting platform.

Don't mis-understand, it can be done, but the reward is simply not there.

Or do go with the v6 swap. ;)

CoolHand1134
12-30-2009, 11:58 PM
now I am confused

If you are adventurous, want a new engine, do not want a turbo, you could go with with a V6 swap. The 3SGTE and the available V6s are within your $ figure if you do the work yourself

or for $3000 you could buy a different car, I have seen several in Canada lately within that price range

i need it to be a quick swap and dont have the fab time for a v6

Ricksta
12-31-2009, 12:34 AM
my god please do no rebuild the 5sfe. granted its a reliable motor, its not the kinda motor you want rebuild. for the same price you can upgrade to a stronger motor

CoolHand1134
12-31-2009, 12:40 AM
my god please do no rebuild the 5sfe. granted its a reliable motor, its not the kinda motor you want rebuild. for the same price you can upgrade to a stronger motor

so what should i be looking for that will be a easy swap?

alltracman78
12-31-2009, 02:13 PM
You need to decide what you want.

The 5S is a GOOD reliable engine. Nothing wrong with it in a car.
However, if you want more power; either turbo it or move on to something else.

If you keep the 5S:
Your best bet is to stick a used/remanned engine in. Best off with a 92/93 version.
If you REALLY want the "experience" of rebuilding an engine, rebuild it yourself. But think long and hard first, it's a PITA the first time, plan for lots of mistakes. :)

If you move onto something else:
You want a 3SGE; 2.0 non turbo version of the 3SGTE. It will have less power at low RPMs than your 5S, but depending which version you get, a little or a lot more power at higher RPMs.
Mechanically it will bolt in, though you're going to need a different trans.
Wiring will have to be modified/added.
Much simpler than a V6 swap though.

Ricksta
12-31-2009, 03:27 PM
i think that with the price and the hastle of swapping a 3sge i would rather just swap the turbo motor in there