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4thgenceli
11-09-2009, 03:10 PM
the twin turbo? trying to find the damn fuel pump for my swap but am not able to remember or figure out which MR2 or Supra fuel pump I need to grab. Dealers are dumbasses here in AZ and can't look it up :(

BabyBear
11-09-2009, 03:57 PM
MK4 TT Supra fuel pump, 93-99

andy
11-09-2009, 04:37 PM
dood really? know your history!

4thgenceli
11-09-2009, 05:14 PM
dood really? know your history!
Not a fan of Supras at all.

Hate to publicly say that, but it's the truf.

4thgenceli
11-09-2009, 05:40 PM
And holy shit @ price for supra fuel pump :gag:

celicaGT90_05
11-09-2009, 06:04 PM
2JZ was offered as tt which was an MK4 engine, even for a non-supra fan that should be easy.

T-spoon
11-09-2009, 06:18 PM
Not so fast there fellas. In Japan a twin turbo motor was offered in the MKIII chassis prior to 93, I'm sure you've heard of it.. 1jzgte. But I know he was asking about the 2jzgte fuel pump :P

burnyd
11-09-2009, 06:20 PM
what is wrong with you for reals.... just get a walbro 255.

BabyBear
11-09-2009, 06:30 PM
I've heard of people having issues with the walbro 255's, its worth it to me to get the supra pump, as well as it being easier to install. I know of people who have walbros that work just fine, but the few I've heard failing is enough for me not to chance it.

celicaGT90_05
11-09-2009, 06:39 PM
Not so fast there fellas. In Japan a twin turbo motor was offered in the MKIII chassis prior to 93, I'm sure you've heard of it.. 1jzgte. But I know he was asking about the 2jzgte fuel pump :P

wasnt sure if the 1jz had tt

burnyd
11-09-2009, 06:57 PM
I've heard of people having issues with the walbro 255's, its worth it to me to get the supra pump, as well as it being easier to install. I know of people who have walbros that work just fine, but the few I've heard failing is enough for me not to chance it.


Mine worked fine, only thing was in my Mr2 it was kinda loud being that it was right in the middle under the shifter.

Luni
11-09-2009, 07:16 PM
Just cause yours worked fine doesnt mean they all do.

I woudlnt trust my multi thousand dollar investment to a 100 dollar fuel pump. Spend the 275 dollars and buy an OEM Supra TT pump from toyota. Dont buy a used one. Just pony up and get a new one.

If you cant afford 275 dollars for a fucking fuel pump, you have no business spending thousands on a performance turbocharged engine swap.

4thgenceli
11-09-2009, 07:22 PM
Just cause yours worked fine doesnt mean they all do.

I woudlnt trust my multi thousand dollar investment to a 100 dollar fuel pump. Spend the 275 dollars and buy an OEM Supra TT pump from toyota. Dont buy a used one. Just pony up and get a new one.

If you cant afford 275 dollars for a fucking fuel pump, you have no business spending thousands on a performance turbocharged engine swap.
Ok... swaps for sale.

Who wants it?













lol lol lol

Trance4c
11-09-2009, 07:26 PM
^ I disagree, there is no reason to pay 300 bones for a fuel pump.

The walbro 255 is virtually the same volume of flow at a lower amps draw.

The Supra pump will need upgraded wiring on a swap due to the large draw, that is the only reliability issue. Otherwise, buy a used one or a Walbro, but update that wiring. Setup a good relay on the original wiring as your sensor, and a dedicated line from the battery actuated by the relay and you should be fine.

A Walbro or Supra pump will supply more than enough fuel for up to 550cc injectors on a modded Gen2 or any standard Gen3 on the stock 540cc's running at fuel limit boost. So you can't go wrong with either.

andy
11-09-2009, 08:01 PM
my walbro has been running fine for 5 plus years.

Luni
11-09-2009, 08:03 PM
Ive just read too many failures about walboros guys.

I dont know if theyre knockoffs, or if there was a defective batch, but I know people personally who have had to change their pumps out several times, and ONE guy who fragged his engine cause his pump failed under high boost and he blew a ringland from running lean.

Ive never ONCE read about an OEM supra pump failure.

burnyd
11-09-2009, 08:40 PM
^ I disagree, there is no reason to pay 300 bones for a fuel pump.

The walbro 255 is virtually the same volume of flow at a lower amps draw.

The Supra pump will need upgraded wiring on a swap due to the large draw, that is the only reliability issue. Otherwise, buy a used one or a Walbro, but update that wiring. Setup a good relay on the original wiring as your sensor, and a dedicated line from the battery actuated by the relay and you should be fine.

A Walbro or Supra pump will supply more than enough fuel for up to 550cc injectors on a modded Gen2 or any standard Gen3 on the stock 540cc's running at fuel limit boost. So you can't go wrong with either.

I totally agree, its not like hes cheeping out ricksta style here. A 255 is a GOOD fuel pump.

Hipster Lawrence
11-09-2009, 11:39 PM
Ive never ONCE read about an OEM supra pump failure.


Well they don't stock them at the dealer just for people doing swaps so they must fail.

Shadowlife25
11-10-2009, 12:14 AM
The fuel pump in question is a Nippondenso unit.

It was used in the:

MKIII 1JZGTE Supra
MKIV 2JZGTE Supra
300Z TT (90's)

Check a Nissan Dealer or parts supplier if Mr. T has none.

Luni
11-10-2009, 12:19 AM
They do so stock them at dealers.

I dont know why some guys can get em, and some dont.

Ive personally installed one on PearlJammzzs MR2. It was like 277 dollars with new grommets and the pickup filter, and all that crap.

4thgenceli
11-10-2009, 02:21 AM
LOL@ my local dealers.

$374 for JUST the pump (no grommets, wires, etc).

andy
11-10-2009, 03:12 AM
www.1sttoyotaparts.com

GT4SOM
11-10-2009, 04:34 AM
look on 1st toyota. Are you keeping your swap relatively stock? Go walbro.

wizzards581
11-10-2009, 06:20 AM
i stick w/ oem. i dont care if its double or triple over aftermarket.

T-spoon
11-10-2009, 06:55 AM
I never once sold a Toyota fuel pump to replace one that failed that I can remember in three years at the dealership, just FYI. They just don't fail much, supra or otherwise.

Sang
11-10-2009, 06:57 AM
LOL@ my local dealers.

$374 for JUST the pump (no grommets, wires, etc).

You can get two Bosch 044's at that price, run 600lph and call it a day. :)

Sang
11-10-2009, 07:00 AM
Ive never ONCE read about an OEM supra pump failure.

Ken had one that failed and so did Garrett's. But in all fairness to Garrett's, it was the same pump he used for all his fuel pump flow testing so that may have put more stress on the pump than normal.

I think CBishop is running around with a TT pump with Kenne Bell BAP though...can't get much more stressful than a 16-17v jolt though :)

Edit: I take that back, he's running a walbro with the BAP.

andy
11-10-2009, 08:14 PM
my oem 5sfe pump failed on me at 160k miles

Luni
11-10-2009, 08:35 PM
So, MANY years later.

Thats my point tho. a Brand new pump will give you YEARS of service.

Go with a walboro if you want.

I guarantee do a search on a reuptable forum and the failure rate is much higher on a walboro than an OEM pump.

Its just my advice. Do with it as you guys will. its not like I havent been doing this stuff for years or nothing.

Sang
11-10-2009, 08:58 PM
I guarantee do a search on a reuptable forum and the failure rate is much higher on a walboro than an OEM pump.

I never said it wasn't...

In fact, my recommendation is to use a bosch 044 pump, especially if you find that you may want to run 1000cc+ injectors. Which is in fact cheaper, flows a hell of a lot more fuel, and is reliable.

The Captain
11-11-2009, 12:52 AM
I'm going with an OEM pump when my AEM goes in. I want gen-u-wine Toyota reliability.

4thgenceli
11-11-2009, 12:57 AM
Data.....overload....implosion.... imminent..

Luni
11-11-2009, 01:48 AM
Ok, Ill agree, the Bosch unit seems to be a good one. Some of the Aeromotive units look good too.

Is the Bosch unit PnP compatible or do you have to make a custom pickup, and mounting bracket?

Sang
11-11-2009, 02:00 AM
No custom stuff needed.

I'll put up some pictures, hopefully sometime this month to show the install. I'd do it now but Garrett still has my pump so i'm waiting for him to get it back to me.

VikingJZ
11-13-2009, 09:37 PM
J-block has been around since I believe 1990. It came briefly in the MKIII Supra and the 92-00 Soarer

RedRkt01
06-15-2010, 08:34 PM
I just saw this so I had to speak up.

Your skillz = Barf. lol.