View Full Version : NON celica- engine damage opinions needed

11-08-2009, 12:27 AM
Hey all,

So my friend has a 96 escort. He cracked the head when he ran out of coolant. So he bought a used engine online at a place called everdrive. 900$ with a three year warranty.

So the new engine arrives, and first thing we noticed was it had a shitty spray paint job all over. Like they snipped the wires to the injectors, and painted them in place all over the manifold. The valve cover had a similar shitty paint job, and the oil filler cap was painted on. I would rather they just shipped me a dirty used engine, than one that had a half assed paint job to cover things up. We drain old black sludgy oil out of the drainplug. Previous owner didnt change it much apparently..

Here is the kicker. I pull the head off, and polish down the block and head gasket surfaces. See attached pics. There are small pits and divots in two of the pistons, with matching divots in the head. It looks like metal shards got into the intake and were hammered into the head and pistons. This is definitely beyond the scope of a "used engine". I think I should have a warranty claim here. I think they should pay for new pistons and a head shave.

I know its a used engine, but those pits and divots could cause hot spots/detonation. We havent even fired the engine at all, we took it apart to replace the HG and other seals. What do you guys think? If you had those marks in your piston/cyl head, would you slap new gaskets on and go with it? Or bitch to the company. There is a three year warranty on engine failure, and those marks could completely fail the engine. Plus the rod bearings have copper showing through in weird ways- according to my ase engine friend, the wear patterns are odd. Like the crank was either slamming into the rods(er vice versa) or vibrating.

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11-08-2009, 12:40 AM
Read the fine print before you complain.

I know that I have bought used engines before that were painted. The idea is not to 'cover things up' but to make it obvious if you dismantle the engine.

A lot of times, the warranty is void if you open the engine up.

11-08-2009, 02:15 AM
Murg beat me to it.

Mr. Babb
11-08-2009, 03:03 AM

11-08-2009, 08:35 AM
Warranty fine print is kind of vague. There is the one part about unauthorized repairs voiding the warranty. Guess the head gasket would be that.

I swear, we should have just bought a new head instead of a used engine.

This engine block is the tiniest block ive seen so far.