View Full Version : ChrisD's ST205 WRC - the D.D.

11-02-2009, 06:09 PM
It's about time I made a thread for the ST205. The car is essentially my daily driver, so reliability is key and I cannot afford downtime with it, so the goal will be to keep it relatively mild, and use the ST165 for playing. If I should get a new car for DD this may get a bit more fun stuff added.

So here it is when I first got it in April of 2009. Imported by Zen Autoworks (http://zenautoworks.ca) - highly recommended. 88,000 km's on the clock. Came fitted with the 18" alloys, new timing belt, TRD clutch, Tabata aluminum radiator, aftermarket BOV (unsure on brand), and an aftermarket exhaust from after the midpipe back.

All pics were posted in a thread here: http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40800

Shortly afterwards, I had to replace the exhaust as the muffler had corroded away. http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41728

New exhaust from DP back installed. Keeping the stock cat for now.


Next up was a bit of a revamp on the stereo. Needed a new deck to play on the correct radio band. I ended up with an Alpine iDA-X305 because I love the ipod integration. No CD's which works for me. Left the space instead of a pocket so that I could integrate gauges later.


Also needed to replace the door midbass speakers as they were blown. You can read about that here: http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44112


11-02-2009, 06:09 PM
I purchased a set of 45mm Prosport gauges from http://twosrus.com . David was a great help and got me everything for the setup. I tackled the install this weekend since I was doing an oil change anyways. That way I could install the oil filter adaptor:


A benefit of the 3rd gen 3sgte is that I can use one of these and not worry about the oil filter getting in the way of the turbo or alternator.

I went with boost, oil pressure, and water temp.

I ordered a Nissan DIN panel replacement - a blank piece of plastic with the mounts for the stereo casing. The Nissan part # is 68470-60M00 and is called "Mask Radio". You should be able to source this at any Nissan dealership for ~$15-20. From there, sanded/filed it down and got it to fit nicely above the deck. Then some careful measurement, drilled 3 holes out to mount the gauges. The result is pretty slick I think!



Next up might be changing the dash lighting a bit, the red/amber colour matched with my blue lit deck and green other lights is a bit irritating. Might go to mostly blue lights. We'll see.

I'd highly recommend this route for those that don't want an A pillar pod, or want things to look somewhat OEM.

:) :)

11-03-2009, 12:14 AM
Gauges look great man! Very OEM-ish

11-03-2009, 01:38 AM
That was the goal. Thanks! :)

Conversation with my wife after finishing this.

Me: So do you like the gauges?
Her: Meh. What are they for?
Me: This one is boost, or turbo pressure.
Her: Ok...
Me: This is oil pressure.
Her: [losing interest]
Me: This is water temperature.
Her: OF WHAT?????
Me: :laugh:

11-03-2009, 01:54 AM
wicked and awesome!
i'm happy for two reasons
1. glad to hear you went with zen and that they product they sold you is good. i say this because my brother lives in calgary and he's looking to buy. looks like we're going with him since he doesn't mess around

2. i really like the guages you installed. i had a dream of doing something like that and you really materialized it.

can you post the item number to fit that location? where did youg get it?


11-03-2009, 03:56 AM
I hate you.

Looks awesome!

11-03-2009, 04:04 AM
Beautiful car Chris. Great job with keeping it clean. Are the gauges on somewhat of an angle at all to face the driver better? Looks great.

joe's gt
11-03-2009, 06:31 AM
I want one, california will never let me have one tho. Enjoy MAP and WTA greatness. :madfawk:

11-03-2009, 01:30 PM
how much did you end up paying? Did Zen negotiate with you at all?

11-03-2009, 10:40 PM
I will get the Nissan part # tonight. I purchased mine off ebay, which was certainly more expensive than going through the dealership because of the additional shipping cost. Paid ~$40 for it. Here is the ebay listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OEM-NISSAN-300ZX-90-96-Z32-BLANK-SINGLE-DIN-PANEL-COVER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem53d9eac436QQitemZ 360138327094QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAc cessories

Beautiful car Chris. Great job with keeping it clean. Are the gauges on somewhat of an angle at all to face the driver better? Looks great.

The whole console section there is tilted towards the driver on the 6g. So the gauges are easy to see/read.

As for Zen - well I don't want to speak for Sean, but I can say that he has been a good friend for many years and truly does it b/c he has a love for cars. Between my brother and myself, we have purchased 3 cars from him. And he's a big GT4 enthusiast himself. As for cost, he does a full price breakdown of all the costs involved so there's nothing really hidden. For mine, he had sourced 5 ST205's several months before they became legal to import so that he could get first pic at the best quality examples. Mine was the highest priced one he had, but that was my choice to get the perfect one for me. For the most part, I believe he can take your wish list and budget to find any car you are looking for. He may even chime in here, he's a member of the boards under schweizerceli


Thanks for all the good comments guys!

11-03-2009, 11:05 PM
The car looks fantastically clean for a daily. Great job!

11-04-2009, 01:16 PM
i've got nothing but respect for your ride and ZEN! can't wait to buy my next car there.

I've convinced my dad to buy an aristo!

11-04-2009, 04:11 PM

An update: the part # for the Nissan DIN panel, is 68470-60M00 and is called "Mask Radio". You should be able to source this at any Nissan dealership for ~$15-20.

11-19-2009, 06:11 PM
Bah, high winds the other day threw a peice of cardboard into the car when my wife was driving it. Minor damage, paint on the front bumper is chipped and surface scratches on the LHS splitter. Will have to go in to respray those parts.

The life of a DD...

On another note, went to test drive a WRX the other day as a potential new daily driver. Probably looking to purchase in spring. Overall, a nice car, good low end torque but really falls at the high RPMs. I didn't like the feel of the tranny, shifting felt very loosey goosey. Otherwise okay.

Next on the test drive front will probably be an Audi A3. 6 speed available for the FWD models, but to get the Quattro you have to have an auto. WTF?!!!

11-19-2009, 08:40 PM
Thats too bad to hear about the damage that thing is so nice! But thats awesome your wife will rock that thing i wish one day i will have a wife that can drive a RHD manual... thats kinda hot. Its almost impossible to find girls now days that can even drive a stick at all!

11-19-2009, 09:08 PM
haha. Yep she's definitely into it. She says it's "her car".

The damage is extremely minor, so it is not that big a deal. Will get it fixed and will be as good as new. :)

11-19-2009, 11:01 PM
Noooo! That's a bummer dude.

As a dd I'm sure it won't be the last nick or scrape though...

You should see my white ST185. 48,000km in 10 months ... not much left of the front bumper.

Might get my gauges set up this weekend in the 205. Yours are steller. Better than I imagined actually. Well done.

11-20-2009, 01:13 AM
Chris, the car is beautiful! I really wish we could get the 205 here. I'd be looking for one.

The gauge set up is really cool! It does look stock. I like!

11-20-2009, 05:24 PM
Looks great Chris. If it makes ya feel any better I few weeks ago I ran over a big ass raccoon
And it took a big hit on the front bumper of my vert(185 round fog bumper)

11-29-2009, 07:23 PM
i so want a real st205

12-01-2009, 05:10 AM
Looks great Chris. I have the Premium Prosport gauges and like them a lot. But good call on getting the clear lens series because the tinted ones are hard to see during the day.

12-01-2009, 06:04 AM
Is it legal to import an ST205 to the states. I'm sure this is a stupid question but I cant ever get a straight answer. I know people that have imported 240sx S15's. It cant be any harder than that, can it?

12-02-2009, 10:19 AM
Is it legal to import an ST205 to the states. I'm sure this is a stupid question but I cant ever get a straight answer. I know people that have imported 240sx S15's. It cant be any harder than that, can it?

its not legal, but people have found ways to cheat the system.

12-02-2009, 04:51 PM
Thx for the comments all. :)

Yes, state by state people have found a few loopholes and have done things with VIN registrations, etc. There are ways, its not easy tho.

Actually I had little choice on the gauges! That was the only option for 45mm sets. However, they are definitely some of the nicest looking gauges I have seen. There were a couple other brands out there, but the trouble was that there were limited options for sensors.

I have decided to change all lights to blue though as the gauges are amber, and my deck is blue lit. The green just does not work. Blue/amber seems to mesh ok tho.

On the horizon for the 205 is:

-blue led lighting
-install twosrus MBC
-disable TVSV
-new plug wires, cap, rotor, fuel filter
-suspension overhaul - still trying to decide on a traditional setup (eg. kyb strut replacements) or going coilovers. Anyone have any thoughts on coilovers for a car that is daily driven? Chances are that it will become more of an evening/weekend car after we purchase a 3rd car, but timeline on that is undecided.

12-07-2009, 10:54 PM
I have coilovers on mine and its a daily.......no tvis on a gen 3

12-08-2009, 12:31 AM
I have coilovers on mine and its a daily.......no tvis on a gen 3

You got your tvis and tvsv confused.

12-09-2009, 10:00 PM

The TVSV on the 205 plays with things a lot BTW. I can range from 6psi to 12psi depending on conditions. The 3rd gen engine is a beast tho, I only wish I had it to start with on the 165! (would have saved a lot of money in the process)

12-09-2009, 10:02 PM
Picked up a CEL now, have to check the codes but it's been effing cold out this week! The vitals seem ok tho, should be fine until I get a chance to check it. I am sure the cold weather has something to do with it.

The life of a DD... :)

12-10-2009, 04:54 AM
Same here Chris.
You arent the only one with this minus 45 weather.
Mine comes on right when the car is turned on first thing.
Once the vehicle is warm, if I turn it off, then restart, no CEL.

Life of the DD indeed.
I checked mine and it wasnt throwing a code at all.
Just this damn December weather.

12-12-2009, 03:47 PM
same with mine had a cold snap this week thought something was wrong....anyways im glad you like it they are awesome cars...i jus got a master gasket set for it it should be here in a couple of days

12-28-2009, 01:49 AM
Oooooh dear lord I love this car... :bowdown:

12-29-2009, 05:54 AM
Checked the code, 54 - Intercooler ECU. Did a double check and verified that the pump is working, so could be the temp sensor I suppose. Hard to say...cold weather could be messing with things. Pump activates when I hit the throttle tho, so not a terrible worry at this point.

Also here's a pic, stock 16's mounted to Nokian Hakkapellitta R's. It's winter time in Canada!


12-29-2009, 06:06 AM
Chris, just curious as to why you want to diable TVSV and go with an MBC?

You can keep the safeties and use an EBC. It will also offer a much greater degree of control.
There is a write-up here done by Luni, Sloceli and myself that shows just how to do it.

I use an Apex-i AVCR and still have the TVSV active. Acts as quite a nice safety, as it will kick you into safe mode if there is too much knock. (You know this ;))

If you want to go above factory boost limitations, you can build a simple FCD that works perfectly in conjunction with these mods/parts.

Looking forward to your reply and quite glad to see your progress.

- Mario

12-29-2009, 06:17 AM
For the TVSV: Right now the TVSV has a 6psi boost range. At the bottom end I see 6psi, at the top it's 12psi. Usually it's on the lower end - I find that it will keep it in a lower mode in most cases and only allow "full" boost when conditions are perfect, which is somewhat rare. I really don't see TVSV as much of a safety advantage as long as you are in tune with what your car is doing...the ECU also pulls timing when it hears knock, which is definitely noticeable. Not to mention I don't plan on running a very high boost level, so it should be rather safe. (12-14psi)

As for the EBC, I guess I just like the simplicity and cost-effectiveness of the MBC. I've used an MBC on my ST165 for years now with no problems, and have no plans on changing. I'm not one to change my boost level regularly, I generally will set it and leave it. Plus I've already got a brand new twosrus MBC sitting in my garage. :)

12-29-2009, 06:23 AM
Oh ok. :)

Like I said, I was just curious.
If you already have the gear, there's no point in getting something else.

Again, nice work Chris! :bigthumbu

03-04-2010, 03:59 AM
Chris, hey. :D Saw your WRC on the ZenAutoworks site, would you mind telling me the name of those wheels? They're simply gorgeous.

03-04-2010, 07:57 AM
Nice car. Only thing Canada has to make the USA jealous...lol

03-04-2010, 03:02 PM
Nice car. Only thing Canada has to make the USA jealous...lol


03-04-2010, 03:41 PM
Chris, hey. :D Saw your WRC on the ZenAutoworks site, would you mind telling me the name of those wheels? They're simply gorgeous.


I love your gauge setup BTW. I HATE a-pillar gauges w/ a passion.

03-04-2010, 04:36 PM

The stock 16's are used for winter tires. Using Nokian Hakka's on it.

The summer 18" wheels are Kosei's, but I have no idea what the model is. They are no longer in production from what I can tell.

BTW - now that we have purchased a 2010 Acura RDX, this car will no longer be deemed the "daily driver"! That's a good thing both for this car and my 165. My 165 should not be needed for winter duty any more, and will give me the flexibility to have it undriveable for somewhat extended periods if needed. Plan is still to keep this one relatively stockish for now anyway.

03-04-2010, 06:28 PM
Should have been more specific, I meant the 18's of course. I googled Kosei, I found a few pictures of the same model, but no name. They do seem to be discontinued, so I guess they'll be very rare. :(

03-07-2010, 01:56 AM
I have Kosei wheels as well (K1 Racing). They seem to discontinue their awesome wheels far too fast. Keep an eye out, because demand is high and when some pop up they go fast. Good luck with finding some!

03-07-2010, 04:30 PM

Lol qft!!

On topic.. Can't wait to see your cars again this summer at the meet

03-08-2010, 05:37 AM
Definitely! Haven't checked with Lisa to see if she wants to do it again, but at least one car will make it for sure. Dave was saying he might be bringing two cars too.

Should be a good one again, probably start planning soon too.

03-08-2010, 06:28 AM
Thanks Ryan for the encouragement.

Chris, forgot to ask...I don't see them listed anywhere, but I assume you're not running spacers? The rear flushness is amazing.

03-08-2010, 06:32 AM
Oh yes definitely. I believe it's 10mm on the front, 25mm on the rear. Had to roll the rear fenders to avoid rubbing on bumps.


03-09-2010, 05:26 AM
That's actually too bad, I was hoping these just had a great offset.

So what width are they, 7 or 7.5?

03-09-2010, 01:53 PM
She is a sexy car, but everytime I see her she is filthy! Do you ever clean this car Chris? ;)

kidding bro!

03-09-2010, 04:54 PM
Haha, gets cleaned all the time. I just drive it a lot. :D

Hmm...can't recall the width off hand, something tells me 7" but not sure. I'll check when I get a chance. To get the "perfect" offset you would have to get a seriously staggered setup. Probably something like 7.5-8" wide with a 20-25mm offset or lower even on the rear, with ~30mm on the front...but you'd have to do the actual calculations, those are just guesses.

03-10-2010, 05:28 AM
Meh, I don't care for a staggered setup. I just want something a bit more flush than my tC wheels. Yours are pretty much perfect.

But I guess if you're running spacers on these, I might as well run spacers on mine.

10-13-2010, 09:49 PM
A pic with post-facelift tail lights installed:


10-13-2010, 10:20 PM
Looks great! :D

10-13-2010, 10:22 PM
Looks really good. Definitely updates the 205.

10-13-2010, 10:34 PM
can I have your old ones? mine leak :)

10-13-2010, 10:34 PM
looks nice bro :)

10-13-2010, 10:37 PM
Thanks guys! I love them.

I'll probably sell them for like $50 since they are a bit different than the USDM ones, but maybe $40 for you if you wanted? But I have to wait until I have some replacements in. Doing a bit of a switch-a-roo with a set b/c these ones have a tiny chip in them and I'm apparently rather anal about things like that. haha. (probably have to have them come in from Japan unless I find a set already landed)

10-13-2010, 10:52 PM
done, I dont need them right away, whenever bro

04-04-2012, 03:11 AM
Holy cow Chris you have done some amazing things with this car! I really like your gauge set up! Thanks for sharing all of the information on how to do it!

04-05-2012, 04:39 AM
Holy thread resurrection...

04-15-2012, 08:23 PM
Thanks! Probably have some updates in the coming months too. I just can't afford to have both Celicas under construction at the same time. :)

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07-03-2012, 03:29 AM
Time to update this thread. This is no longer a "DD". Because of this, to better carry this guy:

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/uploadfromtaptalk1324619760283_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21135) http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/avihmj6cqaagqpz.jpg_large_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21760)

Anyway, I've finally got something to update. Today, I found myself with the VERY rare occasion of being home alone and a bunch of parts sitting in my garage.

Said parts: BC BR Type Coilovers, and a bunch of arms from Mr.T.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/bc-coilovers_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21749) http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/img_2218_med_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21750)

So I started on the fronts, but quickly found I needed a 1/2" drive 22mm, socket for the figure 8's. 3/8" was not going to cut it. Lost a ratchet and an adaptor to the cause. Anyway, I moved on to the rears. They are much simpler being macpherson's instead of the dreaded superstruts.

Shocks & sway bar removed. Note my patented method for removing sway bar end links. Allen key is quite possibly the stupidest design choice they made on these cars.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/img_2219_med_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21754)

Comparing the stock (yuck) swaybar to the Whiteline. Slipping it in was super simple out the left hand side. Literally a 15 second process.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/img_2222_med_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21751) http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/img_2220_med_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21753) http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/img_2221_med_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21752)

Racing beat end links (using these for the rear, have a slightly different model for the front)

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/img_2226_med_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21755)

And everything buttoned up! Sweet!

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/img_2228_med_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21757) http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/img_2227_med_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21756)

I should note that for now I'm not touching any of the bushings on the rear end.

So then I went out and got my new socket so that I could pull the figure 8 nuts. Dealt with the cotter pins and popped the nuts off. By popped, I mean, used a breaker bar and gave it the "stomp". Used a puller, and it popped off surprisingly easily. Which was good, because I hit some roadblocks after this.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/img_2229_med_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21758)

So then I found my cv boot totaly split. :( Have to figure out the part # or if I can find a suitable option for that.

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/img_2230_med_thumb.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21759)

So I mentioned "some roadblocks" up a bit. By that I mean corroded cotter pins. These, I have decided, are my nemesis. I can't for the life of me remove a single one without a headache. The next bunch of bolts/nuts all have cotter pins, all facing the complete wrong way, and all are so corroded they fall apart the second you touch them. So that's where I called it a day. I think I might take some advice and just drop the sub frame. Might be the easiest way to go....stay tuned. This all has to be complete by Ogopogo!!

07-03-2012, 05:53 AM
I have a whole kit of new cotter pins, and I think I have a part number for your cv boots. I'd have to get in my cupboard, but my clutch pedal is out of the WRC, doing the uprated clevits and bearing...should be this week...I hope :)

07-03-2012, 05:54 AM
looks awesome btw

07-04-2012, 05:31 PM
That thing is going to be fun! as far as cotter pins ive heard if you just snip the ends off to allow a wrench on you can just spin the nut and the cotter pins will shear off pretty easy then drive middle out with punch.

07-04-2012, 08:29 PM
Thanks Steve! I got the part no. from Ryan so I'm good there.

That thing is going to be fun! as far as cotter pins ive heard if you just snip the ends off to allow a wrench on you can just spin the nut and the cotter pins will shear off pretty easy then drive middle out with punch.
That's a good tip. As long as I can fit something in the spaces to "snip" the end(s) off...haha. Otherwise, I'll just drop the subframe.

07-04-2012, 11:01 PM
Can those endlinks be used on the 5th Gens? Looks great Chris

07-04-2012, 11:08 PM
Yep. I've got them on my 4th gen as well. They are amazing. I will never ever ever use factory Toyota end links again.

07-05-2012, 12:00 AM
Better then twosrus? What about the front?

Been debating on bc racing or megan street coilovers. Once you get to drive on em give us some feedback please.

07-05-2012, 04:48 AM
I'd have to check what twosrus uses for their endlinks.

sodap0p also has them on his ST205, so he might be able to give feedback. He let me take his car for a short drive and I was really impressed with the blend of comfort and performance.

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07-09-2012, 06:55 AM
So progress is somewhat impeded by not being able to find a CV boot. On the hunt, but still haven't located anything. Will have to go online I suppose. You'd think they'd be easy enough to find, 90-95 V6 Camry's share the boot I need.

Otherwise, I did make a little more progress. So the front superstrut components are now fully removed.

Big thanks to Funkycheeze for his help this weekend in fitting the BC's to the OEM cast legs.

Funkycheeze in action:

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/plasma_cutting.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21770)

The result:

http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/4/img_2240_sm.jpg (http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=21771)

I'll hit them with primer/paint before they go back on.

Also, bled the brakes with RyanD and our Dad, as well as removed the banana arms which I had left in there as they weren't particularly easy to get out. But they are out.

07-09-2012, 06:37 PM
Next purchase: plasma cutter? Sure worked well to cut those tubes off. I don't need much of an excuse to bring it out to play.

07-27-2012, 04:51 PM
Car is back on the ground and driving. Just have to finish adjusting the ride height. Have only driven it a very short distance, but it is night and day. Feels like a whole new car again!

Also, getting a new windshield installed today. Should be starting to take shape. Not sure I'll get to my downpipe before Ogopogo but we'll see.

10-01-2012, 07:25 PM
Just some pics from Ogopogo...