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mikecole89
10-21-2009, 03:26 AM
new here didnt see a section for introductions?..whats up im mike from connecticut, us got a 1990 GT..trying to decide if i want go 5sfte or do the 3sgte swap..im leaning a little more towards the sfte though because it seems like every one is doing the 3s swap..any suggestions?

90CelicaST
10-21-2009, 03:41 AM
Hey there, welcome aboard! I like your idea of taking the road less traveled. Kind of like Scion's commercials: "Become one of us by becoming none of us". In the end though the best suggestion depends on your budget and goals.

4thgenceli
10-21-2009, 03:43 AM
Personal preference... 3sgte. Just because it's more common, and there's a lot of information around the web on doing that swap.

mikecole89
10-21-2009, 04:10 AM
well piecing together the turbo kit i came up with about 4gs lol not to bad just save over the winter..ive read on another forum it cost about the same for the 3s swap. i have mixed emotions about it. i can not find a usdm 3s anywhere would rather not go through the trouble of jdm and not passing smog lol. needless to say either route i go i plan on upgrading internals, and boosting more(i know the more sensable way would just do the 3s swap then) im sure if done right i could make a 300 hp 5s? not to many out there im guessing

4thgenceli
10-21-2009, 04:25 AM
well piecing together the turbo kit i came up with about 4gs lol not to bad just save over the winter..ive read on another forum it cost about the same for the 3s swap. i have mixed emotions about it. i can not find a usdm 3s anywhere would rather not go through the trouble of jdm and not passing smog lol. needless to say either route i go i plan on upgrading internals, and boosting more(i know the more sensable way would just do the 3s swap then) im sure if done right i could make a 300 hp 5s? not to many out there im guessing
I honestly don't think a 5s could hit 300hp, and with the work necessary to hit 300hp you may as well do a 3sgte swap. I'm doing a 3sgte swap, and I'll be netting somewhere between 260 and 280hp with no mods besides intake & exhaust.

You'll be VERY hard pressed to find a USDM 3sgte. Not sure how the emissions are out there, but JDM engines will pass sniffer tests without issues. They fail on the visual due to no EGR systems. You can mock up an EGR system to a JDM motor though to make it pass, or do what my buddy did here and remove all EGR documentation from the hood & engine bay, and then go thru emissions. Since they didn't have any diagrams to compare hoses with, the passed him

mikecole89
10-21-2009, 04:28 AM
ok i will definatley look into it some more..i think i found one usdm 3s waiting on a reply dont know if he has the ecu or wiring harness though..if need be i might be able to pay 300 "smog test" lol

4thgenceli
10-21-2009, 04:36 AM
Heh.. yeah out here where I am I'm in a 'partially exempt' testing zone for emissions.

If I don't use the vehicle to drive to work and/or school that's in a testing zone, then I do not need emissions ;)

Sent off all the paperwork necessary for this... pure JDM goodness here I come ;)

mikecole89
10-21-2009, 04:45 AM
found a usdm what you guys think?

I have a complete MR2 3SGTE long block, a fresh wiring harness thats uncut, turbo transmission, 1 set of axles, ECU, etc. basically all you need to swap your NA MR2 to a 3SGTE MR2. (this motor will also swap into celicas, if you use the MR2 transmission you can have a FWD version of this)

It turns over and spins freely and from looking it over, its in running condition.

The 3SGTE/tranny has unknown mileage and year, but if I were to guess, it would be close to 200k, it looks to be in good running shape, but I wouldn't want anyone to install it without at least putting in a new oil pump, water pump, timing belt, clutch etc. the basic 100k maintenance items.

Shadowlife25
10-21-2009, 04:54 AM
Please search.

There are differences between the mr2 and celica 3sgte engines.
Know what you are getting into and understand that it will cost you more than 4k to get a completed swap.

mikecole89
10-21-2009, 05:03 AM
well fuck you dont have to be a ignorant little bitch because not every jerks off to gay porn like you.

yes you can ban me now

KM
10-21-2009, 05:11 AM
I'm just going to go ahead and lock this, leaving the banning to you if you see fit, Mario.