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4thgenceli
10-21-2009, 12:39 AM
July 24, 2009
Bought Jasmine for $250. Clean body, no serious damange, clean VIN, no accidents, etc. Here's how she looked (previous owner's picture).
http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_exterior4.jpg (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/exterior4.jpg)

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Some better shots all around once she was in my garage.
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August 25, 2009
After some debating as to what I'd be doing, I proceeded to pull out the motor in preperation of the 3s-gte swap.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_removing_3sge.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/removing_3sge.JPG)

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October 14, 2009
Dealer pics of the engine I purchased

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October 19, 2009
5 days later:

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30 minutes after arriving home:

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4thgenceli
10-21-2009, 12:42 AM
October 20, 2009
Engine teardown commences. Was orginally planning on basic maintenance (intake/exhaust gaskets, water pump, etc). Ended up tearing motor 90% down (left pistons/rods/crank in) and resealed everything possible.

Obligatory turbo shot:
http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_turbine.jpg (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/turbine.jpg)


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Hour or so later, it's a mess in the driveway.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_teardown_complete.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/teardown_complete.JPG)

Random component pictures:

Exhaust & Turbo manifold:
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Block:
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#1 cylinder wall:
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Head:
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valves:
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Few other obligatory pictures:
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4thgenceli
10-21-2009, 12:51 AM
October 22, 2009
Head goes out for refresh.


October 25, 2009
Various goodies arrived.

Engine reseal kit, timing belt kit & accessories, water pump, thermostat (OEM Toyota parts courtesy of North Shore Toyota).

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New clutch purchased as well. ACT TC4-HDR6

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_tc4-hdr6_clutch.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/tc4-hdr6_clutch.JPG)


Transmission arrived. 93+ MR2 e153 transmission with 1.5way LSD installed.
http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_e153_trans.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/e153_trans.JPG)


October 27th, 2009
Begin removeal of other accessories off block to reseal.

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4thgenceli
10-21-2009, 12:53 AM
November 28, 2009
Bottom end completed. Front and rear main seals replaced, sump and oil pan re-sealed, new water pump installed.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_clean_sump.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/clean_sump.JPG)

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http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_water_pump_installed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/water_pump_installed.JPG)


Next task was to clean the block/head mating surface (block did not see a hot tank dump as I didn't want to pull pistons/crank out).

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_dirty_hg_block.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/dirty_hg_block.JPG)

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November 29, 2009
Make a lot of progress, finally starting to resemble an engine again. Started out with the ARP head studs.

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After Doggah inspects....

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She gives the go ahead to secure the head to block.

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All torqued & retorqued the next morning, final torque to occur after 1000 miles.

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Love this last shot here, engine on stand, Jasmine in background, and Celicatech up on the laptop on Jasmine.

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4thgenceli
10-21-2009, 12:59 AM
December 2, 2009
Begin the task of converting the MR2 RWD e-153 to FWD

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_rwd_e153.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/rwd_e153.JPG)


Removing mr2 selector

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Trying to figure out how to get roll pins out without cracking case (failed, had to crack case anyway)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_fwd_conversion2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/fwd_conversion2.JPG)

Selector bracket out, all ready to install st185 hardware.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_fwd_conversion.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/fwd_conversion.JPG)


December 17, 2009
Received TWM short throw shifter for the st165 and some st165 shifter cables. Time to install them.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_shifters.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/shifters.JPG)

OEM length shifter

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_stock_shifter.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/stock_shifter.JPG)

Started pulling apart interior to install. The shifter only needed the center console removed, I removed the radio bezel as I had to install shifter cables as well.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_twm_installation2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/twm_installation2.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_twm_installation.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/twm_installation.JPG)

Had to use a 'vice' to knock out the nylon cups on the stock shifter.

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Cable comparions:

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Here's the cables going from the shifter thru the firewall.

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I had to lift the front up a bit & loosen the steering rack bolts/nuts in order to get my 10mm wrench in and remove the grommet & plate holding the cables in.

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All finished with the installation, I had to work the metal under the pivot ball just a bit to let the cup clear.

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Installation completed:

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Just for a side by side visual, here's the TWM shifter vs. the OEM shifter (exclude about a half inch due to the shift knob being installed on the TWM, it's actually lower than it appears in the picture).

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4thgenceli
10-21-2009, 01:00 AM
December 26, 2009
After nearly 2 weeks of brain bashing and phone calls, I realize I'm a dumbass. I figured out how to time the cams. As with other engines, there is typically a steel back plate that is secured behind the cams against the head with marks to assist with timing. I couldn't locate this plate. Turns out, there was no plate. The timing marks were on top of the cam caps, as well as on the valve cover itself.

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I almost messed up my crank timing due to the vertical mark pictured here. I am not sure what this does, but I confirmed the divot and arrow need to line up to verify #1 cylinder is at TDC with a screwdriver.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_extra_timing_mark.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/extra_timing_mark.JPG)


Cam timing:

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installed Valve cover, lined up cams, and used white crayon for visual references.

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Tensioner installed, idler installed, properly tensioned, and a few dozen hand cranks all 3 marks continued to line up.

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Engine's getting closer to being complete.

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December 30, 2009
Installation of head components begins. First up, intake manifold. TIP. Tilting the engine at a 45* angle will assist with intake and exhaust manifold installation, the full weight of the mainfold can be rested on the engine without it putting to much strain on the studs.

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Cooling system accessories attached. At first I forgot to install the thermostat, so I removed the water neck & when re-installing the water inlet something went wrong & it snapped. I was able to source another st215 water inlet (thanks PITCELICA).

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4thgenceli
10-21-2009, 01:03 AM
Feburary 1, 2010
Due to unforseen circumstances, I had to go a month without any updates or progress. As well, I also accidently moved my AC compressor the wrong way, and thus bled the full system of all freon. I am currently running the St215 engine, st215 power steering pump, st162 power steering lines, st162 alternator, and st162 AC compressor.

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andy
10-21-2009, 01:12 AM
dood that looks in GREAT shape! im gonna contact them about a 1jz.....

Shadowlife25
10-21-2009, 01:16 AM
I'm really glad you bit the bullet and went this way Tim. It's looking good. :D

CriScO
10-21-2009, 01:23 AM
Holy shit that head is clean.

Shadowlife25
10-21-2009, 01:38 AM
^^ HAHA! That's hat I'm talkin about. :woot:

GT4SOM
10-21-2009, 02:51 AM
haha this is awesome! keep us posted man!!

90CelicaST
10-21-2009, 03:15 AM
Get out of there Tim
You don't belong in an engine bay, you're a person.

joe's gt
10-22-2009, 10:22 PM
Man that is a freakin clean clip.

4thgenceli
10-23-2009, 05:15 AM
Fedex delivery guy: 0
e153 transmission: 1


Guy loaded up the transmission in the box onto a dolly, and promptly proceeded to flatten both tires on it (I loaned him my compressor to fill it up, only to flatten them again).

He thought the transmission was for the Ford in the driveway. He was a bit taken back that the transmission for a lil' 4 banger car would weight so much.

Cavanagh
10-23-2009, 05:49 AM
Cool! Looks like a very clean engine.

85gtsblackman
10-25-2009, 06:11 AM
sweet keep going , im currently about to start putting back togather my engine after tearing it down and sending the head off

celica9303
10-25-2009, 10:38 PM
Food looking Tim. Where are you getting your new gaskets and such at. I'm planning the same swap for my 93. But I also want to re seal everything before I put it in along with a new T-belt and water pump. Keep up the good work

4thgenceli
10-25-2009, 11:38 PM
Seriously, do the 215 swap. If you get a hold of venus they're cheap right now.

The majority of parts right now for the 215 are interchangeable with the 205 engine, and even some with the 185 engine. It's not that hard to source parts, Aaron over at ithaca toyota and his cohort (Steve I think his name) were EXTREMELY interested in the swap I'm doing, as they've rarely come across this swap. Thanks to Kevin he's hooked me up with a dealer overseas that readily has the parts in stock. I ordered everything for the reseal from New Zealand, parts arrived in just under 7 days.

85gtsblackman
10-26-2009, 06:55 AM
remember to check the bearings

btw go to harbor frieght and get an engine stand, i was lucky and while i was in alabama i got one while it was on sale for around 30 dollars. No more working with a rim and my arms ftw

4thgenceli
10-26-2009, 01:07 PM
remember to check the bearings

btw go to harbor frieght and get an engine stand, i was lucky and while i was in alabama i got one while it was on sale for around 30 dollars. No more working with a rim and my arms ftw
Check out the pictures closer :) How do you think the engine is supported in the air? :)

celica9303
10-26-2009, 07:00 PM
awesome. once i get my swap ill get with you and maybe you can hook me up with the overseas dealer. good work

extremeskillz
10-26-2009, 07:10 PM
This is a great build. Honestly I can't wait for the final result.

85gtsblackman
10-27-2009, 04:35 AM
sorry i thought the engine was sitting on something

4thgenceli
10-27-2009, 08:25 PM
Got the motor 90% stripped down. Oil pan & lower cover is removed. Gasket sealant all removed (it was leaking a bit already, so figured I'd rip & reseal it all). Nice and purty clean in there. Damn this is gonna be a fun car if/when I get it running.

RedRkt01
10-28-2009, 12:25 AM
Check out the pictures closer :) How do you think the engine is supported in the air? :)

I thought it was levitating. All of my engines levitate. You guys really need to invest in levitating engines if that's not what you have.

I'm glad you got in touch with the guys in NZ. I wondered if you had gotten the kit ordered or not.

dups90gt
10-28-2009, 12:36 AM
Nice job! You work fast too! Damn!

4thgenceli
10-28-2009, 01:06 AM
I thought it was levitating. All of my engines levitate. You guys really need to invest in levitating engines if that's not what you have.

I'm glad you got in touch with the guys in NZ. I wondered if you had gotten the kit ordered or not.
Kev, I didn't have to order anything. He said that they had them in stock, and had no issue getting them. Ordered on a Thursday, they arrived next Friday :)

VikingJZ
11-10-2009, 07:55 PM
Nice!

That car looks really good. I always like those rims on the 4th gens.

Are you stripping the side black molding off?

4thgenceli
11-11-2009, 12:46 AM
Nice!

That car looks really good. I always like those rims on the 4th gens.

Are you stripping the side black molding off?
Yeppers. I think it interrupts the lines of the car. Gonna pull em off and then figure out if I can buff out the difference.

Either that or a new paint job :)

4thgenceli
11-29-2009, 12:02 AM
Note to self (and others)

Gasket remover (the stuff in the aresol can that foams up..) is VERY caustic. It burns and eats flesh. Overspray got on my my burns from the butter fire... and they're worse than before now :(

Pics coming of head & everything shortly.

Sump pan has been installed, oil pan going on (as soon as i get all of the gasket off). I picked up some Honda FIPG. From what I've been told it's better than the Toyota FIPG (and easier to dispense, it's in a pressurized can instead of a toothpaste type tube).

CriScO
11-29-2009, 01:27 AM
I told you that gasket remover would eat anything. :D

I used to have a snapped bolt like that on the hatch's tranny pan. I lost a quart every 2-3 days. Yeah, fix it. Do your best to get it out without damaging the threads, but keep a tap handy just in case.

4thgenceli
11-29-2009, 02:04 AM
I told you that gasket remover would eat anything. :D

I used to have a snapped bolt like that on the hatch's tranny pan. I lost a quart every 2-3 days. Yeah, fix it. Do your best to get it out without damaging the threads, but keep a tap handy just in case.
LOL... sweet.

I had a bag'o'bolts from my 3sge strip & scrap.. :) WOOT!

I can't seem to find any torque specs for the front main parts (oil pump, etc). Is like 1/4 past tight good (I make a cross pattern and tighten it 1/4, then go again and do another 1/4 turn tight. I don't want the fucker pissing oil on me.....

Oh.. and assembly lube FTW!

Couldn't keep the damn oil pump gasket seal in place before I put the cover on.. so just put a lil' bit on there to hold it in place and it's all set now ;)

extremeskillz
11-29-2009, 03:23 AM
/Me likes!

extremeskillz
11-30-2009, 03:23 PM
Real nice, keep it up!

4thgenceli
11-30-2009, 03:36 PM
I'm thinking of painting the valve color.I have some Ford Blue hi-temp spray paint sitting around. Thinking if giving it a good coat tonight maybe.

I'm gonna take the cover off (it's just sitting there, not secured at all) and give it a good bath today with some purple power & a wire brush.

VikingJZ
11-30-2009, 06:12 PM
Give that block a good cleaning and paint it black with engine enamel.

If you're going to do all this work, take a few extra hours and spruce up that engine bay.

I think it would be worth while my man.

Get a light blue metallic paint from a parts store and paint the cover that way. Matching valve covers are cool!

4thgenceli
11-30-2009, 06:32 PM
Give that block a good cleaning and paint it black with engine enamel.

If you're going to do all this work, take a few extra hours and spruce up that engine bay.

I think it would be worth while my man.

Get a light blue metallic paint from a parts store and paint the cover that way. Matching valve covers are cool!
I'd have to tape a lotta shit off and do that....


Maybe I'll see if my brother feels like painting :)

celica9303
12-01-2009, 06:48 AM
Looks good did everthing come apart pretty easy? What part number is the Apr studs just so I know when I get my engine set finally

4thgenceli
12-01-2009, 02:07 PM
Looks good did everthing come apart pretty easy? What part number is the Apr studs just so I know when I get my engine set finally
Yeah, wasn't too bad dis-assembling the motor. Just soaked the bolts in PB Blaster.

Don't recall the part number off hand, but it's the only head stud kit they have for the 3sgte motor.

RedRkt01
12-02-2009, 02:42 PM
Tim, I haven't forgotten about you....

4thgenceli
12-02-2009, 06:31 PM
Tim, I haven't forgotten about you....
Thanks. Getting closer to when I need that hardware too.

Shadowlife25
12-02-2009, 10:41 PM
Don't paint the block black Tim. If anything ever happens (like a leak) it will be hell to trace it.
Just my opinion though.

Lookin good buddy.

RedRkt01
12-02-2009, 10:53 PM
Agreed.^

Night_Wolf
12-04-2009, 04:20 PM
So how difficult did it end up being to swap the shifter linkage around?

4thgenceli
12-04-2009, 04:38 PM
So how difficult did it end up being to swap the shifter linkage around?
So far not too bad.

The linkage didn't just 'fall' out after cutting off that arm on the end. We had to knock out the steel spring pins that hold the rest of it together, then it slid out. Other than that, really straight forward. Put in the ST185 assembly and it grabbed all 6 just fine without any issues. I gotta find 1 more piece, then figure out how to put on the other parts :(

KM
12-04-2009, 06:25 PM
55 degrees, and buddy's wearing shorts. Weiiiird.

Night_Wolf
12-04-2009, 06:37 PM
55 degrees, and buddy's wearing shorts. Weiiiird.

Haha it's not soo bad, after the winter up here in Wi, I run around in shorts and a t-shirt in 45 degree weather.


I gotta find 1 more piece, then figure out how to put on the other parts :(

What piece are you looking for, I may have some left overs lying around.

KM
12-04-2009, 06:44 PM
I pretty much wear pants all year 'round.

Mr. Babb
12-04-2009, 08:37 PM
Task today: Making pits in celibaby's glass :(



http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/g1/Celibaby/normal_DSCN1933.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/g1/Celibaby/DSCN1933.JPG)





Poor Celibaby taking all the sparks, might want to check that glass

4thgenceli
12-04-2009, 09:25 PM
Poor Celibaby taking all the sparks, might want to check that glass
She's good.. stopped that in like 10 seconds. Put up a makeshift shield (aka cardboard box soaked in trans fluid...)

Mr. Babb
12-04-2009, 09:33 PM
She's good.. stopped that in like 10 seconds. Put up a makeshift shield (aka cardboard box soaked in trans fluid...) :bigthumbu

jaydog82
12-05-2009, 12:55 AM
nice work man, i just finished rebuilding my 5sfe and what a lot of work.

burnyd
12-05-2009, 12:58 AM
That shifter linkage was not that hard from the back to the front... I dunno if its like that for all years but my year Mr2 Tranny a 95 LSD had holes drilled on the top so that linkage could have been put there.

VikingJZ
12-05-2009, 04:55 AM
55 degrees, and buddy's wearing shorts. Weiiiird.


I wear shorts until the snow is on the ground.

If there is no snow, I wear shorts.

Within reason, so if its ten below and no snow...fuck that.

30? 35? Yup.

4thgenceli
12-05-2009, 02:01 PM
The garage actually stays pretty toasty too. There's only 1 dinky light in there, so I bought a set of those twin halogen work lights. That combined with the heat put off by the freezer & gas water heater, keeps the garage nice & comfy.

Mr.Shaun91
12-06-2009, 06:56 PM
wow holy shit bro. i had no idea you were doing all this work... im like 15 mins from you and you dont even call or stop by to tell me...

shame shame.

well i might be of some use so let me know.

4thgenceli
12-06-2009, 07:24 PM
wow holy shit bro. i had no idea you were doing all this work... im like 15 mins from you and you dont even call or stop by to tell me...

shame shame.

well i might be of some use so let me know.
I've texted/called/left VMs for you :) You were always in class lol.

I'm gonna be tearing apart the transmission when I get home if you care to join me.

Mr.Shaun91
12-06-2009, 07:56 PM
ill see what i can do today... my buddy is coming back from out of town. but for sure this week i can come down to lend a hand.

4thgenceli
12-06-2009, 08:04 PM
ill see what i can do today... my buddy is coming back from out of town. but for sure this week i can come down to lend a hand.
I'm off Tuesdays/Thursdays. I usually take my kid to day care on Tuesday, so I'm alone and don't gotta worry about him getting into anything.

celica9303
12-08-2009, 02:12 AM
How did you get ahold of Venus? Email or call? Tried emailing them but it came back undelievered. Nice work. Hope it runs as good as looks

4thgenceli
12-08-2009, 02:29 AM
Phone call is best way to reach them. Guy's hard to understand.

celica9303
12-08-2009, 02:45 AM
Very good to know would you buy from them again? Um not sure if this was mentioned earlier or not but how much did you pay plus shipping for your engine set? Or did you not get a tranny?
How long did it take to get you you?

Grot
12-08-2009, 03:12 AM
He got the tranny off MR2OC

and he got a great deal on the engine, they wouldnt give me the same price when i inquired about the engine a while back so dont expect to get it as cheap as he did.

4thgenceli
12-08-2009, 04:56 AM
He got the tranny off MR2OC

and he got a great deal on the engine, they wouldnt give me the same price when i inquired about the engine a while back so dont expect to get it as cheap as he did.
orly..... if you don't mind, how much are they asking now?

Freshnicity
12-08-2009, 05:36 AM
orly..... if you don't mind, how much are they asking now?

the 3SGTE's at Venus are about $1500 a pop. Actually, they had a Gen 2 and Gen 3 there, and they were both priced at $1500 a pop last I went(about a month ago?)

Btw, build is coming along nicely. Want to see that engine running though

4thgenceli
12-08-2009, 01:41 PM
the 3SGTE's at Venus are about $1500 a pop. Actually, they had a Gen 2 and Gen 3 there, and they were both priced at $1500 a pop last I went(about a month ago?)

Btw, build is coming along nicely. Want to see that engine running though
I looked at their site last night, it's prolly more because the one they have in stock comes with an AWD manual transmission...mine was paired with an auto trans.

celica9303
12-09-2009, 01:52 AM
Aslong as its not gonna be 3g just to get the motor here ill be good when ever I can get it

extremeskillz
12-19-2009, 08:39 PM
I like! Keep it up!

vip09
12-23-2009, 03:25 PM
Did you find out that you have to pull 5th gear to get the bellhousing to come off? hehe

4thgenceli
12-23-2009, 03:54 PM
Did you find out that you have to pull 5th gear to get the bellhousing to come off? hehe
Uh... no :-\


Haven't split case yet to pull the roll pins. REALLY hoping I can magnet them out, cuz I really don't wanna split the trans case :(

extremeskillz
12-30-2009, 09:00 PM
You actually measured .5-1"? Nice!

Shadowlife25
01-01-2010, 10:11 PM
Don't beat yourself up Tim, we have all had our share of "Did I seriously just....DOH! I did..." moments.;)

At least you know and are remedying the issue.

Keep up the great work man.

4thgenceli
01-01-2010, 10:44 PM
but i broke the t-stat housing... and its only shared on gen3 and gen4 engines.....

Shadowlife25
01-01-2010, 10:54 PM
You can get another one. :)

NOT from NZ though, the shipping would cost more than the part I'd wager...

4thgenceli
01-01-2010, 11:09 PM
You can get another one. :)

NOT from NZ though, the shipping would cost more than the part I'd wager...
Yeah that's what I'm thinking too. Damn thing's only 20bux lol.

4thgenceli
01-01-2010, 11:28 PM
Er... sorry $60 according to toyodiy.

celica9303
01-04-2010, 04:47 AM
What about 1sttoyota.com?

RedRkt01
01-04-2010, 05:27 AM
Tim, try the 5sfe. It shares parts with the 3rd gen 3s engines. You might get lucky.

extremeskillz
01-04-2010, 03:11 PM
^Agree. Try your luck with 5sfe parts!

RedRkt01
01-04-2010, 03:28 PM
Nevermind, I couldn't get the numbers to match up. Pull the number and call NZ.

4thgenceli
01-04-2010, 03:38 PM
What about 1sttoyota.com?

Unfortunally looking up the part number on first toyota's site and it doesn't return any results.


Tim, try the 5sfe. It shares parts with the 3rd gen 3s engines. You might get lucky.


Hrm.. checked this out but it doesn't seem to match up.

Without actually seeing one in person, I wouldn't know if it'll work or not. Not too concerned if I can't bolt the oil dipstick to it, I can live with that for now.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/Untitled-4.png


Looking there there's different part numbers for each one. Visually by those diagrams, it looks like the st215 has a longer tip that the hose connects to.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/Untitled-5.png



However... I'm thinking this.

If the holes line up with the water pump, and the thermostat gasket & thermostat fit, I should be able to use the st185/st182 thermostat housing until I can pickup a st215 housing. I'll just have to get a longer hose for the time being for the radiator.

RedRkt01
01-04-2010, 03:50 PM
That looks just like my ST202 3SGE outlet. I'm willing to bet your hunch is right. Something tells me that 90% of those S engine outlet are interchangeable. Not all, but most.

4thgenceli
01-04-2010, 04:01 PM
That looks just like my ST202 3SGE outlet. I'm willing to bet your hunch is right. Something tells me that 90% of those S engine outlet are interchangeable. Not all, but most.
Yes, the st202/205 has the same neck as the st215.

Problem again though... JDM vs USDM vehicle base :( (sell me yours...lol).

RedRkt01
01-04-2010, 04:10 PM
Let me put it this way: I'd buy a ST204 outlet in a heartbeat for my 3SGE. That's me though. I don't get all choked up about some money being lost if it doesn't work out; Ebay.

4thgenceli
01-04-2010, 04:24 PM
Ok, so the bolt pattern matches then.

I did find a 215 inlet on egay basically for price of it new... $50bux.

RedRkt01
01-04-2010, 04:47 PM
Check MR2OC. Good source for the 215s.....they aren't pussys over there. Wakka-wakka-wakka!

Shadowlife25
01-19-2010, 12:56 PM
Tim,text me tomorrow with the total for engine assembly + harness conversion.
I am right behind you now.....

4thgenceli
01-21-2010, 02:04 AM
Kevin, I found one from someone who wasn't asking MSRP for it. Should have it in about a week or so.

Mario, I'm about $3,000 into this project. I'm allowing another $1000-$1500 to complete (need hybrid axles, fuel pump, st165 mounts/brackets, and FMIC off the top of my head).

Engine - $1200 shipped
Tranny - $900 shipped
Reseal kit - $500

Thats just for the main part, factor in the clutch & other stuff I'm about 3500 (act clutch, arp bolts, etc)


~~~Side note~~~

Remove front exhaust manifold/turbo mount as well as fasteners for oil feed & oil return lines before torquing down exhaust manifold. Was a BITCH to rectify this :garg:

Anyway, exhaust/turbo manifold attached, connected most of hose lines on rear of engine, just a few more I need to figure out where the fuck they go.

4thgenceli
01-21-2010, 02:06 AM
Here's their current ST215 engine (front clip)

http://venus-auto.com/inventory/toyota/i-st215.htm

Unsure on price, will need to call but I'd wager a guess it's in the $1800-2500 range.

Shadowlife25
01-21-2010, 09:57 AM
Ya I know, it's mine. :D :p

4thgenceli
01-21-2010, 02:24 PM
Orly... I'm expecting a thread now.

RedRkt01
01-21-2010, 04:22 PM
Orly... I'm expecting a thread now.

(Directed @ Mario) That's right bitch!!!!!

4thgenceli
01-21-2010, 11:44 PM
Well I went back to gonna use my st162 acessories, but my alternator = toasted. On halt until I pick up new one now :( :booooo:

Shadowlife25
01-22-2010, 03:14 AM
Just use a 5s alternator. It should mount and work with no issues.

YES. There will be threadage!

I SO need a camera......

Shadowlife25
01-25-2010, 05:02 PM
Next person to post anything for sale or asking for anything for sale in this thread will get infraction points.

This is NOT B&S. DO NOT CLUTTER HIS PROJECT THREAD.

4thgenceli
01-25-2010, 05:07 PM
Next person to post anything for sale or asking for anything for sale in this thread will get infraction points.

This is NOT B&S. DO NOT CLUTTER HIS PROJECT THREAD.
I kinda started it though.... :-\ lol.

Shadowlife25
01-25-2010, 05:12 PM
Asking about one specific thing you need is fine Tim.
Other people posting for THEIR OWN WTB stuff in here is not/

Just start a WTB thread from now on if you wouldn't mind.
It will keep a separation between the sections that is apparently needed.

Tecker184
01-25-2010, 07:15 PM
i was just trying to help is all. I have no desire to sell anything just had it sitting out there, my bad.

4thgenceli
01-28-2010, 07:31 PM
Teaser pics... better ones will come when I can open the door and not get flooded.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/DSCN2256.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/DSCN2255.jpg

Shadowlife25
01-28-2010, 10:27 PM
Tim, BIG question:

How are you going to make your swap legal?
I really am curious, as I just got my plans shut down by the B.A.R. :(

celica9303
01-29-2010, 01:17 AM
aslong as it will pass emissions i dontsee how it cant be legal. but i also dont have emission laws here in ohio which is why my 4runner has no cats and only half an exhaust.
looks good tim

i want one so bad

4thgenceli
01-29-2010, 01:40 AM
Tim, BIG question:

How are you going to make your swap legal?
I really am curious, as I just got my plans shut down by the B.A.R. :(
Well two ways really.

Cars without the OBD system (pre 95) get the sniffer test (hooked up to a exhaust tester, etc). They do a visual inspection to verify components, but 9/10 the person doing the visual don't know what they're looking for and simply look for a underhood vacuum routing diagram. No diagram they see if anything's missing (hoses not connected, capped off, etc). There is that 1/10 tech who's a gearhead and knows when the EGR is missing, and thus plan = fails.


I live in a partially exempt emission zone. If I don't drive it to school/work in a testing area, I am not required to emission test it. So I simply mark this vehicle as one that I don't take to/from work daily,and boom, no emissions.

RedRkt01
01-29-2010, 04:40 PM
Tim, BIG question:

How are you going to make your swap legal?
I really am curious, as I just got my plans shut down by the B.A.R. :(

Register in a different state. That is the bullet proof method. With a board full of friends across the country you should have no problem pulling that off.

4thgenceli
01-29-2010, 05:27 PM
Thought gathering time.


Nearing completion at this time. Have too many things running through my head, need to sort em out quick. Ramble on...


Still need to procure:

CV axles***
-non-LSD inner MR2 shafts (need to count splines on tranny to determine ABS/nonABS)
-st165 outer shafts
Front mount intercooler setup
ST165 radiator
ST165 engine & tranny mounting brackets & mounts
Bolts to secure pressure plate to flywheel
Trans -> engine bolts
Starter ***
Supra TT fuel pump
ST162 alternator

That will get me installed & ready to fire.

4thgenceli
01-29-2010, 05:59 PM
Randomness:

162 pressure PS hose repaired

Off hand, anybody know how these 2 washers go on the crank pulley? (part 11011 in the picture).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/Untitled-10.png


I forgot how they came off, but I have the t-belt guide on already. Do I need another washer between bolt & the pulley? Or does the bolt attach right to the pulley? I'll put some pics of the things I have at home when I get there tonight.

4thgenceli
01-29-2010, 06:01 PM
(yes I'm rambling now).

Looking at pictures of the e153, I'm thinking my st162 starter will give me issues with clearance for the turbo...Can someone confirm/deny this for me?

extremeskillz
01-29-2010, 06:33 PM
Washers look they go towards the crank pulley.

RedRkt01
01-29-2010, 07:10 PM
Washers look they go towards the crank pulley.

You have a GE starter so I think you're gonna have clearance issues. Why not go with the starter that came with the 215?

4thgenceli
01-29-2010, 07:18 PM
Didn't get a st215 starter. engine/ECU/harness only, no transmission.

You know any way around the clearance? Would a 165 starter clear?

RedRkt01
01-29-2010, 07:32 PM
Didn't get a st215 starter. engine/ECU/harness only, no transmission.

You know any way around the clearance? Would a 165 starter clear?

FE and GTE ST162 starters will work. They both site tranny side as opposed to the engine side for the GE. I think I have one for you.....a GTE.

EDIT: Shit....what tranny are you using? E153?

4thgenceli
01-29-2010, 07:43 PM
FE and GTE ST162 starters will work. They both site tranny side as opposed to the engine side for the GE. I think I have one for you.....a GTE.

EDIT: Shit....what tranny are you using? E153?
Yep, e153 from a MR2. That's why I think there's an issue, as it may not clear the turbo. I have to mock the bish up first though and see.

RedRkt01
01-29-2010, 07:45 PM
.

RedRkt01
01-29-2010, 07:46 PM
Yep, e153 from a MR2. That's why I think there's an issue, as it may not clear the turbo. I have to mock the bish up first though and see.

Yeha, I'm 99% sure I have an extra 165 starter for you.

Tecker184
01-29-2010, 07:50 PM
i have an extra starter also ST215. Did u figure out what alternator your using? I used the the st215 myself seeing how i had two.

4thgenceli
01-29-2010, 08:31 PM
Yeah, I'm sticking with the 162 alternator (thus why I'm selling the 215). Reason behind this, incase the alternator shits, I don't have to scramble and find a 215 alt. I can just goto the parts store & buy one.

RedRkt01
01-29-2010, 08:44 PM
Yeah, I'm sticking with the 162 alternator (thus why I'm selling the 215). Reason behind this, incase the alternator shits, I don't have to scramble and find a 215 alt. I can just goto the parts store & buy one.

trade starter for alt?

4thgenceli
02-01-2010, 02:51 PM
Brother's assembling transmission today.

Over today/tomorrow I'm going to try to pull radiator, finish up bolting on accessories (lost a damn nut for the PS pump bracket FAWKT), and drop the front bumper cover to prep for install/FMIC install as well.

4thgenceli
02-01-2010, 04:44 PM
Oh my.... a 95% engine!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/DSCN2255-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/DSCN2256-1.jpg




With some research, I did confirm that the power steering pump on actually MOST of the S series engines is the same (3sfe/3sge/3sgte, possible same on 5sfe and 2se). It uses the exact same mounting brackets & hardware, simply swap out the lines to/from the power steering pump for your application and you're all set. The picture there is actually with the st215's power steering pump, I'm going to have a hydro shop rebuild my st162 pressure line this weekend.

Tecker184
02-01-2010, 07:09 PM
i used the st215 pump worked great

4thgenceli
02-02-2010, 12:55 AM
I was moving the AC compressor that's still attached to the car to try and get it out of the way to prep for the engine install, but apperently the bolts aren't really tight enough that bolt the lines to the compressor. Lifted it enough to get it out of the bay, PSSSSSSSSSSSSS freon came flying out. I'm pretty sure I just drained the whole system now too :( It went about 15 minutes releasing itself in the garage.

I'll give it a few hours to clear out, but I guess I can at least remove the compressor from the engine bay totally now and put it on the engine :lol:
:sunshine:


Guess I can convert it to R134a now while I'm at it.

Tecker184
02-02-2010, 01:04 AM
same exact thing happened to me but my lasted until i was getting ready to bolt it to the engine. I was so pissed i just cut it all out.

4thgenceli
02-02-2010, 02:22 AM
same exact thing happened to me but my lasted until i was getting ready to bolt it to the engine. I was so pissed i just cut it all out.
You happen to have a pic of the front of your engine, namely the engine mount? I thought i knew where the front bolted in, but now I'm clueless as where I 'thought' it went turned out to be the cat hangers.

Tecker184
02-02-2010, 02:43 AM
It bolts to the transmission

Tecker184
02-02-2010, 03:18 AM
you do have to install the heat shields first i tried to removed mine while on the engine, no dice.

4thgenceli
02-04-2010, 01:25 AM
Almost.... but no cigar.

Pulled the east mount bracket from the trans, and my st162 mount. Damn thing is literally a 1/8th inch off from working. Thinking of flattening out the mount tab and then it'll work perfect, but I've already sourced all st165 mounts/brackets and the north/south crossmember.

I don't know though if the st162 east/west crossmember will bolt up with the st165 north/south crossmember, I need to to some part # research on this.

jaydog82
02-04-2010, 02:08 AM
yes one does go on the timing pulley before the timing cover and crank pulley.

i don't know about the other, if both have the notch marks i would guess that both go against the timing belt.

Tecker184
02-04-2010, 06:04 AM
on mine i used the 5sfe east and west mounts and the 185 north to south crossmember and mounts. The east mount from the 5sfe had to be modified.

Shadowlife25
02-04-2010, 06:14 AM
He is getting a complete set of mounts and cross members from a 165.
It's all he needs.

4thgenceli
02-04-2010, 01:29 PM
Yeah, guess I"ll take it all Mario :) Wife OK'd purchase :)

Shadowlife25
02-04-2010, 09:06 PM
Ok Tim.

It started raining here, so I will see about pulling it all asap. :)

PM me for my PP addy.

4thgenceli
02-04-2010, 09:52 PM
I prolly still have it from the last purchase :) lol.

Progress made today, found the nut I couldn't find for the PS pump, engine is all assembled, starting to 'wire' it up. Dropped east/west subframe in preperation for the alltrac's north/south/east/west subframes.

I found all the mounts & brackets though for the st162, damn shame I can't use them. They're not in bad shape.

4thgenceli
02-08-2010, 04:54 PM
*NOTE*

Sorry for the ninjas, but I had a failure & lost most pics. I had to re build the databases on my server to restore the pics. They're all in the first 7 posts now :P


Feburary 6, 2010
As of today, the engine is ready to drop in. I am awaiting shipment of ST165 engine and transmission mounts and brackets to secure engine & transmission into the engine bay. Jasmine has been lifted up on all 4 corners, north/south crossmembers removed, exhaust downpipe/collector have been removed, and exhaust loosened ready to be removed.


http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_crossmember_removed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/crossmember_removed.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_all_jacked_up.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/all_jacked_up.JPG)

4thgenceli
02-12-2010, 02:07 AM
Feburary 11, 2010

Received 'most' of the shipment (remaining should be here tomorrow) from Mario.

Mario... that was some SLICK fucking packing man. Holy fuck! Literally had to bring out my damn kitchen knives to open it (my NEW and FRESHLY SHARPENED pocketknife couldn't mess with 10 layers of packing & duct tape).

Only posting these for wrapping goodness. Never say Mario doesn't pack with love!!

First package received

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_wtf_packing1.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/wtf_packing1.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_wtf_packing2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/wtf_packing2.JPG)


Opened up to reveal my north/south and east/west cross members, along with the front & rear mounts, and rear mounting bracket.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_suprise1.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/suprise1.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_st165_crossmembers.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/st165_crossmembers.JPG)



Hey...what's that up in the corner? Oh.. just the old parts sadly looking at the new parts getting all the luv.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_st162_crossmembers.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/st162_crossmembers.JPG)

Shadowlife25
02-12-2010, 03:06 AM
Strange they didn't arrive together...
Like I said, you should have everything by this Saturday at the absolute latest.

The other package contains the remaining mounts and brackets along with all the necessary mounting hardware.

Those I could not get all cleaned up unfortunately, and for that I am sorry.
Heck, I only got the 2 x-members as clean as I did because I was getting RAINED on. Like really rain, not just drizzle. :hehe: Again, sorry everything wasn't all totally clean Tim.

I am excited for you man, you are almost there now !!!! :D

4thgenceli
02-13-2010, 02:59 PM
Just ordered everything to relocate battery to trunk. Going to hold off on installation of engine until I run the cables, as it looks like it'll be easier to run the 1/0 with the engine out for now.

Question for you gen4's that have done the relocation, is there a prefered spot in the cargo area to secure the battery? I'm leaning towards placing it drivers side rear of the cargo area as the passanger side has the tool compartment in it.

Mr Celica
02-13-2010, 04:17 PM
awesome build man. can't wait to see the end result! might be worth taking a trip to AZ to see it! haha

-Rich

4thgenceli
02-13-2010, 04:44 PM
awesome build man. can't wait to see the end result! might be worth taking a trip to AZ to see it! haha

-Rich
Well if I can get it completed by my 'deadline' (before April) I'll be driving it to the Dragon meet this year.

I want to allow myself at least a month so I can roll it to/from work and shit to see how it goes, and then decide if it'll be up for the cross country trip (it's 40miles one way for me for work, mostly freeway so it'll be a good judging factor as to if it can handle hours of driving).

4thgenceli
02-17-2010, 02:30 AM
Engine=Wired up :P

Tweak is a GOD with harnesses. Can't believe how f'ing easy that was. Everything was where it should of been, and if I didn't know what it was, it was at least within 3" of where it should of been (sensor vs. harness connector).

Think all that's left is to connect it to the various plugs on the transmission (which I doubt I have, I prolly need to do some junkyarding to find the sensors I need :()

Shadowlife25
02-17-2010, 07:19 AM
Did the rest of the stuff I sent you show up Tim? I've been waiting to see that it has....

4thgenceli
02-17-2010, 12:03 PM
Did the rest of the stuff I sent you show up Tim? I've been waiting to see that it has....
Yeah, it's somewhere here.

RedRkt01
02-17-2010, 03:06 PM
I thinkI missed this, but why were crossmembers necessary?

4thgenceli
02-17-2010, 03:22 PM
I thinkI missed this, but why were crossmembers necessary?
They weren't per'se necessary, but rather makes installation easier for the e153 transmission. If I were to use the st165 rear mount & bracket, I'd of had to round out one of the holes to allow it to bolt up.

RedRkt01
02-17-2010, 04:50 PM
I see........but what about the E/W member? Getting one of those makes no sense to me.

BTW, I have a 165 pulley and a new micrometer in my car right now.

4thgenceli
02-17-2010, 05:09 PM
I see........but what about the E/W member? Getting one of those makes no sense to me.

BTW, I have a 165 pulley and a new micrometer in my car right now.
yay!!


E?W member because I'm not sure if the st162 EW member would bolt up to the 165 EW member, and my 162 EW member has seen it's better days.

RedRkt01
02-17-2010, 05:13 PM
You're not sure if the 162 ew would bolt up to the 165 ew? I'm not following you.

4thgenceli
02-17-2010, 05:18 PM
Correct.

From what I've gathered....

The st165 rear mount bracket & mount won't bolt neatly up to the St162 north/south crossmember without having to round out some of the holes.

I picked up the st165 north/south crossmember, along with all the mounts & brackets necessary. Thinking (most likely a little ahead of myself) that I don't want to have to drill any new holes in the St162 east/west crossmember, I picked up the St165 east/west crossmember. Hopefully this will eliminate any need to drill holes or round any holes for all the engine & transmission mount points.

RedRkt01
02-17-2010, 05:53 PM
Honestly, I don't think that the EW member of either model will interfere with the NS. I only grabbed a 165 NS and I should be good to go. Perhaps its been too long since I climbed under there, but 5 weeks ago I removed my 162 EW member to pull the 3SFE and it was by no means connected to the NS IIRC. If the 165 NS bolts in then that should solve all the mounting problems.

4thgenceli
03-01-2010, 02:06 AM
Feburary 28, 2010

What happens after you have 5 cups of coffee and a 5 hour energy?

7 hours of working on your car after a 12hr work shift.

Here's how it started....


http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_interior.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/interior.JPG)


About an hour and a cojort later...

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_associate.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/associate.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_striping_interior.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/striping_interior.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_stripped.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/stripped.JPG)



Oh dear... wtf is that???

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_surpise1.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/surpise1.JPG)


Ewww...spider webs!

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_surpise2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/surpise2.JPG)


Compression fittings are fucking sex when it comes to wiring. The hardest part though is getting the copper strands through the fitting to wrap around. Easy way around that...tightly wrap it with electrical tape, then remove the tape :)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_compression_fittings.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/compression_fittings.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_compression_fittings2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/compression_fittings2.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_compression_fittings3.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/compression_fittings3.JPG)



Here's the final location I chose for my battery in the cargo area. I have a vented box, but will be buying a sealed battery (Optima most likely).

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_battery_cables.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/battery_cables.JPG)


Another angle of the cables. The space between the fuse and the allen keys is where the box will be mounted.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_battery_cables2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/battery_cables2.JPG)


Grounding point..

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_ground_wire.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/ground_wire.JPG)

Positive cable routing through the drivers side body panels with split loom protection around sharp edges.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_positive_wire.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/positive_wire.JPG)


See that lil buldge running all the way up the corner? That's the cable.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_routing.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/routing.JPG)


And DONE! (sorta)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_final_battery_cables.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/final_battery_cables.JPG)


Begin the re-assembly...Somehow I kept all the screws but I lost about a dozen... :-\ Time to hit a junker and acquire some fastners...

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_re-assembling.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/re-assembling.JPG)


To be continued tomorrow...when I have light & more sleep (I'm going on 30hr of no sleep... :wooooot!)

extremeskillz
03-01-2010, 02:24 AM
So nice! Keep it up!

4thgenceli
03-02-2010, 02:13 AM
Battery relocation offically completed.

New home: left rear corner of cargo area (drivers side)

http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/normal_battery_box.JPG (http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/battery_box.JPG)

http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/normal_battery_box2.JPG (http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/battery_box2.JPG)

http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/normal_battery_box3.JPG (http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/battery_box3.JPG)


200a fuse located just behind battery box.

http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/normal_fuse.JPG (http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/fuse.JPG)


The fuse is secured to the body with simple sheet metal screws, and the battery box obviously by that yellow & black strap. There are 2 strap mounts/tiedowns that are underneath the carpet, secured to the body with sheet metal screws as well. I then cut slits in the carpet, and ran the strap through these slits, and under the tiedowns.


HEre's where I mounted the power block in the engine bay. To prevent ground-outs (as this is the positive 12v feed), I used one of the old mount rubber flaps between the body & the plastic housing of the block. I then wrapped the screw heads & upper threads in electrical tape, and covered the tops of screws with electrical tape. Yes it may be a little overkill, but I didn't want any risk of ground-outs in the engine bay killing everything.

http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/normal_power_distro.JPG (http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/power_distro.JPG)

http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/normal_power_distro2.JPG (http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/power_distro2.JPG)


I have dual 4g feeds running out of that block that will goto the Fuse block & to the starter. I have a third connection in the event I need another feed from somewhere (yes.. the 4g lines are currently still connected, I need to cut & terminate the ends after the engine is in the bay).

Here's where I ran the power wire through the fender into the cabin.

http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/normal_power_wire.JPG (http://www.ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/power_wire.JPG)

4thgenceli
03-14-2010, 12:54 AM
Engine's crossmembers are bolted up (I <3 PNEUMATIC TOOLS!). I ended up using the ST162 north/south crossmember. It was actually extremely simple to fit the st165's mount to the st162's crossmember. The rear mount just needed a simple rounding of the rear oval hole. Grabbed my air rotary, a small stone grinder, and a few minutes later I'm all set.

I can't seem to find the rear motor mount bracket however. Anybody have a picture of what one of these looks like? I think I found my rear st165 bracket though, but not sure.



Also re-attached the drivers wheel well splash guard, removed stock airbox resonator (found another spider nest..ugh).

RedRkt01
03-15-2010, 03:35 PM
I'll post a pic. I have one installed on the G3GE.

4thgenceli
03-17-2010, 02:15 AM
The engine is longer on the engine stand.

It's partially hanging on the engine hoist, and partially sitting on a junk tire in the garage. I bought a new st165 pulley from CSK, installed it and all is good. Bolted right up.

Dropped engine off the stand, bolted on the st165 flywheel with ARP bolts. Attached the ACT TC4-HDR6 clutch kit as well. It's PURTY!

4thgenceli
03-17-2010, 10:51 PM
On to the pictures.


http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_helpers.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/helpers.JPG)

They were 'helping'. Not really, but the one on the right just was released from the hospital after his sugery. He did NOT want to stay inside, so he was playing with his cars on the ramps. This is a massive 'picture update' post.


ST162 crossmember modifications to accept st165 mounts.


Here's the rear mount in question. (picture currently shows it bolted on the st165 crossmember).

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_st1262vs165.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/st1262vs165.JPG)

Take one dremel..

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_dremel.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/dremel.JPG)


The hole I widened was the one on the right. You can see it was not by much, as it was in the shape of an oval I just had to make it round to let the bolt through.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_holes_drilled.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/holes_drilled.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_closer_drilled_holes.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/closer_drilled_holes.JPG)


Front mount required NO modifications at all. It bolted up without issues.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_front_mount.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/front_mount.JPG)


And it's done.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_crossmember_done.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/crossmember_done.JPG)



St165 harmonic balancer install on st215


Take one engine:

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_acessories_ready.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/acessories_ready.JPG)

Add Lube:

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_assembly_lube.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/assembly_lube.JPG)

And a new harmonic balancer.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_st165vs215.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/st165vs215.JPG)


On the right is the st165 balancer, left is the st215. It's a hair bigger, but just about same weight. I don't forsee any issue running this. I also checked and the belt grooves line up just fine as well.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_st1262vs165.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/st1262vs165.JPG)




The only problem I saw was with the timing mark. The st215 mark was on the outer lip, while the st165 was on the inner mark. After installing balancer, I confirmed it was still at TDC and valves were still correctly timing. I took a dremel with small diamond tip and made a timing mark at 10* so I can timing the engine still.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_pulley_installed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/pulley_installed.JPG)



Harmonic balancer completed, belts tightend, timing has been comfirmed as still on.




ACT TC4-HDR6 installation

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_new_clutch.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/new_clutch.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_clutch_ready.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/clutch_ready.JPG)

Flywheel ready:

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_flywheel_installed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/flywheel_installed.JPG)


Pressure plate installed.
http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_clutch_installed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/clutch_installed.JPG)


Minus the alignment tool

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_clutch_installed2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/clutch_installed2.JPG)


Engine ready for transmission mating.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_engine_ready.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/engine_ready.JPG)

RedRkt01
03-30-2010, 03:19 PM
Tim, if you haven't already installed it please double check the ST165 rear mount as compared to the ST162 rear mount. They do have different part numbers, yes, but they look pretty much identical. I'm just hoping you can either confirm or deny my thoughts.

4thgenceli
03-30-2010, 04:24 PM
Tim, if you haven't already installed it please double check the ST165 rear mount as compared to the ST162 rear mount. They do have different part numbers, yes, but they look pretty much identical. I'm just hoping you can either confirm or deny my thoughts.
I'll check that tomorrow (I'm about to turn in for the day to rest for work tonight).


I can say this, I am using the ST162 north/south crossmember, ST165 rear transmission mount, and st162 rear transmission bracket.

The ST165 mount was not a problem fitting on to the ST162 crossmember, I just had to oval out one of the holes a little to allow the bolt to get through it.

The ST162 s53 rear transmission mount 'almost' fits onto the MR2t e153 transmission. One hole lines up, while the other one needs to be moved just a bit (initial estimates without measure I would say between 1/8th and 1/4 of an inch).

Drop me a text later on tonight so I don't forget. I'll have the pictures of modifying the St162 crossmember back up here shortly, almost done with my server maintenance.

RedRkt01
03-30-2010, 04:31 PM
Cool, will do. I need to see that anyway so I can mod my n-s member.

4thgenceli
03-30-2010, 04:35 PM
Cool, will do. I need to see that anyway so I can mod my n-s member.
I'll have everything done tonight when I get to work. Was the monthly update time for all my servers again, and my webserver didn't take too well to the kernal upgrade :( Just gotta upload about 20g of pictures, all the links will be fixed instantly.

4thgenceli
03-31-2010, 10:35 AM
North south crossmember. Looking at the picture like this, the left of the picture is the front of the car, right is the south (firewall side).

http://ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/normal_crossmember_done.JPG

Here's a closeup of the rear mount holes on the crossmember. You can see the oval shape on the top/bottom of the far right hole. You also see the rounding I did with the dremel to let the bolt pass through.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/normal_closer_drilled_holes.JPG

RedRkt01
03-31-2010, 02:25 PM
Thats the rear most hold for the rear mount, correct? I wonder if that show can be worn on the other foot.....

4thgenceli
03-31-2010, 03:54 PM
Thats the rear most hold for the rear mount, correct? I wonder if that show can be worn on the other foot.....
Correct.

RedRkt01
03-31-2010, 04:39 PM
*shoe. I wonder if I can just use the ST165 ns member for now on my ST162 and then when I get around to the GT-Four project use the ST162 ns member and drill it like yours so it'll mate up to the ST165 chassis. What do you think? It seems like that trick would work backwards and forwards.

4thgenceli
04-05-2010, 03:08 AM
Transmission ready for installation.

Ran out of sealant, gotta buy a new tube & I'll be able to slap the 5th/reverse cover on and I'm all set.

I need to redrill/re-tap holes (hopefully I can just tap to a 12mm hole from a 10mm hole) due to using an SAE tap instead of Metric (DOH).

Rear gen1 3sge transmission mount bracket modified, pictures to come tomorrow once I get the camera back from the party.

Tried to use the upper trans mount bracket, however it doesn't hold the mount neatly. Grabbed the st165 upper mount bracket, bolted right up & the st165 mount itself fits perfectly :P :woot:

4thgenceli
04-05-2010, 03:17 AM
Oh..

and when using a seal driver, best to be fully alert, and not slip off the handle and bash your wrist. It just makes carpel tunnel worse.

4thgenceli
04-05-2010, 03:22 AM
AND one more comment, converting the MR2 e153 to use in a FWD application, really not as bad as it initially seems.

Worst part is just sourcing out the parts necessary to convert, everything else is just patience & time.

4thgenceli
04-11-2010, 02:21 AM
As a note to this, the WORST part I would say is drilling the holes for the bracket that moves the selector in/out.

Fortunally some helicoils & loctite fixed that :P If time permits tomorrow I'll try to get the rest of the trans bolted up to the engine. Gotta wait a week to drop it in, waiting for the poly mounts & brass bushings to show up.

Already bolted up the mounting brackets to the trans, ready to drop teh bish in! :woot:

ChrisD
04-11-2010, 03:01 AM
Awesome! What's the timeline till you think you'll be firing her up?

4thgenceli
04-11-2010, 05:40 AM
Awesome! What's the timeline till you think you'll be firing her up?
Not quite sure. After the recent medical problems, everything was delayed.

I'm hoping about a week or two for dropping it in the bay, then just slowly getting the rest of the parts I need (axles, fuel pump, intercooler, radiator, exhaust). Shouldn't be to long honestly, just more I need to get time to do it :P

RedRkt01
04-12-2010, 02:20 PM
If yours, mine, and Ryan's all fire up in the same month that would be amazing. RETURN OF THE ST162...........

Doowstados
04-16-2010, 05:17 AM
Can't wait to see it up and running. You going to dyno test it after you finish?

Naemion
04-16-2010, 08:03 AM
Looks like it is coming along great man, keep up the good work!

4thgenceli
04-16-2010, 09:40 AM
If yours, mine, and Ryan's all fire up in the same month that would be amazing. RETURN OF THE ST162...........
Since I've moved.. I've seen at least a dozen GOOD condition st16^'s (2 alltracs). There's one guy who works almost my schedule, and ride the same roads to work. Gonna be fun to play with him :P

4thgenceli
04-17-2010, 10:09 AM
So I've had some time to play catchup on photo updates :P


Transmission is re-assembled. Note the two holes.. yes those are the two that I was getting pissed at.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_trans_almost_ready.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/trans_almost_ready.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_evil_holes.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/evil_holes.JPG)



Rear transmssion bracket pictured here is from a st162 (s53 transmission). You can see the modification I had to do to bolt it up to the e153 transmission.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_rear_mount_bracket.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/rear_mount_bracket.JPG)


And installing the Speed Source poly mounts. This was a bit time consuming. I had to take a hacksaw, and cut away at the inner metal ring around the rubber without cutting into the outside itself. Once I had this cut made, I tool my air hammer, screwdriver, and sledge hammer to bend & pop it out.


I <3 air tools!

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_front_mount_carnage.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/front_mount_carnage.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_front_mount_removed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/front_mount_removed.JPG)

And all finished:
http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_front_poly_mount.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/front_poly_mount.JPG)

4thgenceli
04-19-2010, 04:28 AM
Getting close to filling that hole in the engine bay!

If only the motor mount inserts were as easy to replace as the shift cable bushings!

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_brass_bushings.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/brass_bushings.JPG)


Speed source poly mounts installed.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_poly_mounts.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/poly_mounts.JPG)

ACT throwout bearing installed. I didn't grease the bearing or shaft, as the inside of the bearing already had a nice coat of graphite grease.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_TO_bearing.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/TO_bearing.JPG)

And the transmission.. :DONE:

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_trans_ready.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/trans_ready.JPG)

Took a bit of finnese to get this damn freeze plug installed, took a few attempts and a few smashed thumbs later but I got it in.

4thgenceli
05-12-2010, 04:28 AM
Well fuck I'm stuck.

Attempted to drop the engine in from the top.. phailed. I removed the trans mount & bracket, angled it, and dropped it in. The rear mount bracket was hitting the rack, and I couldn't pivot/move it to avoid it. Ended up dropping that bracket too. Then it finally layed on the crossmember and I leveled it, but it wouldn't line up with ANY mounts :(

This weekend I'll drop the crossmembers, lift the car up, drop the engine further down, and install it from the bottom.

Shadowlife25
05-12-2010, 10:38 AM
Tim, why do you insist on making things more dificult? :hehe: Seriously though.. :squint:

Also, I am sure you don't want to hear this, but you WILL need to remove your transmission again and grease that input shaft and pivot point with some good grease.
You will likely have a premature TO bearing failure without doing this.
Then you'll have to do it again anyhow. :(

Sorry I didn't see this before now.

4thgenceli
05-12-2010, 01:42 PM
Tim, why do you insist on making things more dificult? :hehe: Seriously though.. :squint:

Also, I am sure you don't want to hear this, but you WILL need to remove your transmission again and grease that input shaft and pivot point with some good grease.
You will likely have a premature TO bearing failure without doing this.
Then you'll have to do it again anyhow. :(

Sorry I didn't see this before now.
Already done.

ChrisD
05-12-2010, 01:47 PM
lol!

Take the cross members off. Might have to drop it down then raise it up to the mounts to get everything to line up nicely for the engine mounts.

4thgenceli
05-12-2010, 03:50 PM
lol!

Take the cross members off. Might have to drop it down then raise it up to the mounts to get everything to line up nicely for the engine mounts.
Yeah, I was hoping to avoid doing that, but looks like there's no way :(

Meh, that's why they invented air tools :)

Night_Wolf
05-12-2010, 04:19 PM
^ It's not that bad

4thgenceli
05-12-2010, 04:21 PM
^ It's not that bad
I know, but it's just the notion that I spent time torquing all the nuts and bolts under there so I could just lower the engine onto the subframe. There goes forethought :P

Can't do anything today, kids only have half day of school. I'll get back on it prolly Friday morning after work.

RedRkt01
05-12-2010, 04:28 PM
I hope my engine goes in without any fanfare.

4thgenceli
05-12-2010, 05:16 PM
I hope my engine goes in without any fanfare.
It prolly will. This is the first engine set I've removed/installed in the car before, so I'm hitting every freaking problem possible installing it :(

RedRkt01
05-12-2010, 06:51 PM
We have the same dimensions. I'm going through the top WITH the E56. But I think the overall mass of the 3SGE is smaller than the ST215 GTE. We'll see. If my f'in hot water hose ever shows up from TOYOTA I might actually be able to get the engine in the car! Woudln't that be something?!?!?

4thgenceli
05-13-2010, 09:16 AM
Here's the process I followed to install an aftermarket gauge into the dash cluster. I decided to remove the coolant temperature gauge, as I am planning on installing an aftermarket digital gauge on the A-pillar.

Take one boost gauge:

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_boost_gauge.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/boost_gauge.JPG)

Strip it down.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_boost_gauge_exposed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/boost_gauge_exposed.JPG)


take one cluster console

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_hi_mileage.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/hi_mileage.JPG)

Remove clear plastic cover, and then black bezel cover.

Turn cluster over, and remove screws holding in the temperature gauge being careful not to damage the circuitry.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_screws_removed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/screws_removed.JPG)

Should look like this now.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_gauge_removed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/gauge_removed.JPG)

After some dremel & hacksaw work, test fitting the gauge.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_installed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/installed.JPG)

Had to make room in the bezel cover to allow for the needle to sweep fully, and also be fully visible

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_outline.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/outline.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_outline2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/outline2.JPG)

Now I screwed up here and rushed myself, I should of waited until I had my dremel instead of trying to use files and hobby snips. I ended up cracking the bezel a bit, but nothing a new bezel can't fix. You can see the mistake here.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_installed2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/installed2.JPG)


Once the dremel came home, I used it to slowly nip & level out the cover & back of the cluster. BOOM..all done. Just need to wire everything up now and reinstall the cluster.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_install_done.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/install_done.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_install_done2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/install_done2.JPG)

4thgenceli
05-13-2010, 09:20 AM
And some teasers..


http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_mating_engine.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/mating_engine.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_mating_engine2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/mating_engine2.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_going_in.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/going_in.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_going_in2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/going_in2.JPG)

Night_Wolf
05-13-2010, 03:36 PM
Looks good man!

extremeskillz
05-13-2010, 08:02 PM
I'm liking what i see!

v8killer
05-13-2010, 08:59 PM
damn you and your gen4/gen4 goodness let me know when you come to california i'll introduce you to all the sad ricers that think jdm is a honda/mugen sticker on a hatch

nice job on all of it, can i take your gauge in dash idea?

Night_Wolf
05-13-2010, 10:16 PM
ricers that think jdm is a honda/mugen sticker on a hatch


Lol!

4thgenceli
05-13-2010, 11:04 PM
The gauge in the cluster wasn't my idea. I 'took' it you could say with a lotta help from ChrisD.

I'm gonna get some better pictures and upload em all tonight with a mini-DIY.

4thgenceli
05-20-2010, 04:01 AM
And I've done it!

I've 'halfway' hit the biggest milestone I was afraid of tackling by myself. Pics coming tonight.

Shadowlife25
05-20-2010, 04:07 AM
Out with it Tim!

No really, what is done now? :D

4thgenceli
05-20-2010, 06:20 AM
Out with it Tim!

No really, what is done now? :D
Well you gotta wait.. pictures are on my SD card, and my SD reader is on my laptop, on the desk in front of me, which is occupied.

RyanD
05-20-2010, 06:40 AM
Nice. Good work! Looking forward to seeing the pics.

4thgenceli
05-20-2010, 08:48 AM
Sorry for the poor quality, I had to revert to my Kodak camera (as compared to almost all the other pictures in this thread were taken with my Nikon).

Thare she blows!! Gen4 engine bolted in & secured in the Gen4 celica. No hoist or jack, all on her own weight now! Over the next few days I'll get her pushed out in the driveway for a quick cleaning after I get the last crossmember bolted up (north/south is not on yet, waiting on a part to arrive).

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_engine_installed2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/engine_installed2.JPG)


http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_engine_installed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/engine_installed.JPG)

4thgenceli
05-20-2010, 09:00 AM
The bay looks like a mess right now. I need to finish some wire loom routing (into the cabin, over by the fuse boxes), get all the vacuum lines run & connected where they're supposed to go, and finish up the battery wiring. That will clean that bay up quite a bit.


On a personal note, I'm quite happy with how far I've come here. When I first got the engine, I was only planning on replacing basic gaskets (intake, exhaust, valve cover, timing belt, etc) and dropping it in. While I don't claim to be an ASE certified mechanic, the knowledge and assistance of all the members that have helped me here with my late night/early morning texts/calls have given me quite the knowledge of this engine, and even more knowledge of my car.

I'm now in no way concerned about having to remove the engine for work in teh future, as I know I can do it by myself quickly without any worries of missing something. Along with this, since I've done all the re-assembly and installation myself, I know how it goes together and all the little things that were a bitch to get around.

Cliffs:
I was worried about not getting this far in the build, and quitting the build before I even got to the point of engine being installed. I feel it's all downhill now, as there is not much more serious work I need to do besides connect everything & pray it turns over and fires up.

extremeskillz
05-20-2010, 01:25 PM
So nice. Tim, good job man! I can see you taking a road trip to my house now!?

RedRkt01
05-20-2010, 02:37 PM
I never thought you'd quit. I always figured you'd get this done. I can't believe you didn't believe in yourself! I thought you were just taking your time. Like me!

4thgenceli
05-20-2010, 08:13 PM
Played a bit today..

Routed wires through firewall (THIS SUCKED ASS).

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_engine_wiring_installed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/engine_wiring_installed.JPG)


Ohh so purty. I had to loosen some of the under dash stuff to allow room for the loom & everything to slide through. I used some zip ties & attached everything nice & close so it was as small as possible to slide though. Took about 20 minutes of pushing & jimmying to get it through.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_firewall_hole.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/firewall_hole.JPG)


My lovely ECU plugs.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_harness_inside.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/harness_inside.JPG)


All plugged in and ready to go.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_harness_connected.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/harness_connected.JPG)



Bonus points to whomever spots the issue in above picture (Kevin, you don't count).


And wiring hidden back under the carpet.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_harness_complete_interior.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/harness_complete_interior.JPG)



By this time my back/neck/shoulders were hurting from being wrapped up like a pretzel trying to connect these wires & feed through the firewall. Tomorrow I'm working on the driver side of the engine bay (harness connections, prepping battery connection to starter, connecting shifter cables & misc hoses).

ChrisD
05-20-2010, 08:40 PM
Insiders tip: Wrap the ECU plugs up in an aerodynamic like fashion with electrical tape before you try to slip it through the firewall. Then it just slips through and you basically just push it down. Takes like 2 minutes, and doesn't hurt your knuckles. (I'm great with tips after the fact BTW)

RedRkt01
05-20-2010, 09:02 PM
oooo! oooo! oooo! I know what the problem is!

4thgenceli
05-21-2010, 05:55 AM
Insiders tip: Wrap the ECU plugs up in an aerodynamic like fashion with electrical tape before you try to slip it through the firewall. Then it just slips through and you basically just push it down. Takes like 2 minutes, and doesn't hurt your knuckles. (I'm great with tips after the fact BTW)
I figured that after I couldn't wedge all the connectors and loom through the small openings. You can see the zip ties I used to line everything up somewhat in a straight line.

More work when I get home on finishing up the drivers side of the engine bay (fuse boxes, tranny connections, etc).

RedRkt01
05-21-2010, 03:58 PM
I like to wrap everything tight, cover the end mass with a ziplock bag, and zip tie that off. After that the harness will slide right down the inside of the firewall.

Mr.Shaun91
05-21-2010, 05:42 PM
great work Tim. im mad at myself for not having the time to come down and wrench with you. but with a hormonal girl and a baby on the way, the rest of life gets put on hold.

my project will take at least 5 years now. so so sad. im gonna go cry now. :'''(

4thgenceli
05-22-2010, 08:18 AM
No worries Shawn. You have my number, I wrench on it daily now when I get home from work, and Sundays after I grab a few hours sleep in the morning. Drop me a txt or call, I'm always down just to chill. I still have an assload of x54r I need to disperse of... :P


Anyway.. started buttoning up the driver side of the engine bay (hoses, wiring,etc).

Heater core hoses have been connected. I used the ones on the 162, just had to cut a few inches off to let it fit on (was good anyway because the end was fucked up from the previous clamp on it). Have the transmission connections plugged in, but may of mixed them up (for some reason I think I mixed up the cruise & reverse plugs).

Went to connect the fuel rail to the filter, but ran into an issue I didn't expect to have.

From top down:
ST162 power steering pressure hose
St162 fuel filter --> fuel rail
St215 fuel filter --> fuel rail

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/0521100923.jpg


As you see in this next picture, the st162 hose is longer than the st215 hose, and the st215 hose has a 90 degree banjo fitting on the fuel rail side, while the st162 does not.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/0521100935.jpg

Here's how they connect (I know, I have excellent drawing skillz y0).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/Untitled-11.png



The way I look at it, I have the following options.

Easy:
Tear apart the st215 hose, make new hose using same fittings but long enough to reach fuel filter.

Medium:
Use the st162 hose connected to the st215 fuel rail, and have it run over to the fuel filter MacGyver style (runs the risk of damage & fuel leak however).

Hard:
Remove the ST215 fuel rail, and replace with ST162 fuel rail and use ST162 fuel line.

I'm leaning towards just building a new hose right now, but if I can't find any parts to do so I may go with the 3rd option.

ChrisD
05-22-2010, 02:20 PM
I would probably try to use the 162 hose. How much longer is it? I think we are using the 185 hose on ours, its a bit longer but the bend is gradual and not going to damage anything.

Tecker184
05-22-2010, 05:42 PM
i used my st215 one but my fuel filter is right there.

4thgenceli
05-24-2010, 04:34 AM
So I'm going to be building a new hose to get the fuel rail & filter connected. I don't think the 162 hose will reach either due to the 90* bend it needs to make.


More questions!

I am not sure what this sensor is, or if I need it after this swap. It's on the firewall, by the passanger side where the loom routes through the firewall. I think I have the same type of sensor that came with the 215 motor, I forgot to get pictures of it (will in the AM).

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_unknown_sensor.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/unknown_sensor.JPG)


Here's a vacuum line that runs from the cruise conrol actuator. Will I be able to use this T and connect it into the turbo pressure sensor?

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_vacuum_line.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/vacuum_line.JPG)


This question is regarding the battery relocation. I know that after you run the main line up, it needs to be split off, namely to the fuse box in the engine bay, and the one (or two) to the starter. Now looking at the starter, I see these two connections.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_starter_connections.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/starter_connections.JPG)

Now the one with the nut on it, I need to connect that to one of the 4gauge wires I have in the engine bay from the battery. Is the other connection simply a ground?

Reason I'm asking, I want to remove all these cables from the loom.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_starter_wiring.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/starter_wiring.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_starter_connections2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/starter_connections2.JPG)

Once I remove that loom (it's only held on by a nut, I don't see any wires running through), I should be able to make a neater cable run.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_right_side_wiring.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/right_side_wiring.JPG)

Finally, I looked at the front of the transmission, and I couldn't see that additional support brace that was mentioned (or at least where it bolts to the block). What I did notice however, was this.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_slave_cylinder.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/slave_cylinder.JPG)


Looks like I'll be needing to get a mr2 turbo slave cylinder and hard line as my st162's doesn't bolt in properly and the routing is all fubared.

4thgenceli
05-24-2010, 04:36 AM
AND.... just because I know people want to see... I give you BETTER hi-res pictures.


http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_acessories_installed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/acessories_installed.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_overhead_shot.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/overhead_shot.JPG)

Tecker184
05-24-2010, 07:06 AM
i would not tap into the turbo pressure senor. There is a vac nipple on the top of the throttle body that i could not find a use for and i capped off. So i would use that as a source of vacuum. That sensor in the first pic i had bolted to my firewall and i removed it with no ill effects. That plug on the starter is to engage the starter. There should be a wire some were on the loom for it.

RedRkt01
05-24-2010, 03:32 PM
That is the A/C Idle up VSV. Critical if you want the A/C to work. You don't have anything from the 215 that resembles this VSVs function. Sometime around 1995 all Toyota ECUs began to incorporate air conditioning control into the parameters for engine control.

4thgenceli
05-24-2010, 06:08 PM
That is the A/C Idle up VSV. Critical if you want the A/C to work. You don't have anything from the 215 that resembles this VSVs function. Sometime around 1995 all Toyota ECUs began to incorporate air conditioning control into the parameters for engine control.
Damnit, which I want AC.

Now I need to figure out how to get this hooked into the 215.

RedRkt01
05-24-2010, 06:55 PM
I haven't looked at mine, but it shouldn't be a problem.

4thgenceli
05-24-2010, 07:10 PM
I haven't looked at mine, but it shouldn't be a problem.
I lucked out @ CSK, they had 5' left of the 3 small vacuum hose sizes & tossed them all my way gratis.

Gonna work on geting that all hooked up today/tonight, we'll see if I have any open ports I can then use or T into.

Terracar
05-24-2010, 07:45 PM
Ohh so purty. I had to loosen some of the under dash stuff to allow room for the loom & everything to slide through. I used some zip ties & attached everything nice & close so it was as small as possible to slide though. Took about 20 minutes of pushing & jimmying to get it through.



Yeah having butt secks with chicks is kinda like that. Other than that nice work.

-Terracar

4thgenceli
05-25-2010, 07:06 PM
Did a little more work on it today. Haven't had a chance to mess with the vacuum hoses yet, but I'll get to that later. I finished up the gauge in cluster dash install. Came out good, just need to finish the wiring of the gauge. I popped a hole through the firewall right beside the throttle cable for the hose.

I'm waiting to hear from Tweak regarding some wiring questions, as I think the car will not start, or the starter will be always engaged.

Remaining to-do list:
-Purchase & install hybrid axles
-Purchase & install FMIC with BOV
-Purchase & install MR2 starter
-Purchase & install fuel pump with new wiring to pump for increased draw
-Purchase & build air intake
-Purchase & install new radiator (AutoPWR, dual core st165). May need to purchase st165 fans, will try my st162 fans first.
-Complete battery relocation (wire 4g feed into fuse panel in engine bay)
-Connect new chassis ground to engine block & transmission
-Connect/route all vacuum hoses
-Install mr2 slave cylinder, may need to purchase mr2 hard lines slave to make this all work
-Install north/south/east/west crossmembers
-Connect mid exhaust pipe
-Install interior (seats, etc)
-Install gauge cluster/wire up gauges
-Tach modification so the Tach will work with the swap
-Fill all systems with fluid & bleed air
-Have exhaust built


That should get me running. There's still a list of stuff to do afterwards (replace all wheel studs, brake job, etc).

Shadowlife25
05-25-2010, 08:39 PM
It runs off of the fuse box.
100A = ALT
??A = STA

As long as you make it run back into the box with the uprated wire, everything is good.

RedRkt01
05-25-2010, 09:37 PM
75 or 80, I think.

Shadowlife25
05-25-2010, 10:06 PM
I talked to him on the phone, I think we figured out the issue.

He should post up soon.

4thgenceli
05-25-2010, 10:21 PM
I talked to him on the phone, I think we figured out the issue.

He should post up soon.
Yes, thanks for the help Mario. Literally as I was describing what I was seeing, the issue I thought was present, I found the bloody connection that had my panties in a bunch.

Basically, the connections on the loom that are bundled to the B+ starter feed is an extension. The other connection I needed for the starter is actually right by the Reverse switch plug. I dont' know if I can go without this loom due to this extension, but it depends on where the placement of this connection is on the starter.

4thgenceli
05-27-2010, 08:07 AM
So today was a fairly productive day.

I took Chris's warning...

http://ourlewisfamily.net/content/Jasmine/normal_bracket2.JPG


Rear transmission bracket bolted on, the st185 bracket worked PERFECTLY for the e153 transmission. I had to rock the engine a bit to get it in, but no big deal.

North/South and East/West crossmembers have been connected and torqued down (Yes mario, I backed all the bolts out 1 by 1 and put blue locker on them). Took a few attempts at actually connecting the mounts to the crossmember, and then the crossmember to the chassis.

Turns out I needed 5 hands, 2 legs, my nuts, and a floor jack.

In case anyone else attempts or does this in the future...

-connect front mount to crossmember.
-turn engine 3-5", and while holding engine press crossmember up and secure rear mount to crossmember
-turn engine another 2-3" to allow the front 2 bolts to connect to chassis, secure bolts losely (5-6 turns)
-place floor jack under crossmember, and SLOWLY raise jack while guiding up to connect rear bolts to chassis.
-sequentiality tighten 4x bolts until to ~38ft/lb.

Had myself a helper this time, was awesome as all he wanted to do was use the air tools.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_kid2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/kid2.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_kid3.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/kid3.JPG)

While the wife & I moved the engine, he zapped the bolts in for me :P Worked out great, until the air hose broke and went spraying around 80ft/lbs of air. I think he pissed himself.

Anyway..

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_crossmembers_installed3.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/crossmembers_installed3.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_crossmembers_installed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/crossmembers_installed.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_crossmembers_installed2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/crossmembers_installed2.JPG)



Going to get the exhaust pipe bolted up in the morning, and do some more vacuum & wiring.

Napa is rebuilding my fuel line for me, they're trying to find fittings to do the power steering hose still.

4thgenceli
05-27-2010, 08:22 AM
Remaining to-do list:
-Purchase & install hybrid axles
-Purchase & install FMIC with BOV
-Purchase & install MR2 starter
-Purchase & install fuel pump with new wiring to pump for increased draw
-Purchase & build air intake
-Purchase & install new radiator (AutoPWR, dual core st165). May need to purchase st165 fans, will try my st162 fans first.
-Complete battery relocation (wire 4g feed into fuse panel in engine bay)
-Connect/route all vacuum hoses
-Install mr2 slave cylinder, may need to purchase mr2 hard lines slave to make this all work
-Connect mid exhaust pipe
-Install interior (seats, etc)
-Install gauge cluster/wire up gauges
-Tach modification so the Tach will work with the swap
-Fill all systems with fluid & bleed air
-Have exhaust built

4thgenceli
05-27-2010, 07:55 PM
Remaining to-do list:
-Purchase & install hybrid axles
-Purchase & install FMIC with BOV
-Purchase & install MR2 starter
-Purchase & install fuel pump with new wiring to pump for increased draw
-Purchase & build air intake
-Purchase & install new radiator (AutoPWR, dual core st165). May need to purchase st165 fans, will try my st162 fans first.
-Connect/route all vacuum hoses
-Install mr2 slave cylinder, may need to purchase mr2 hard lines slave to make this all work
-Install interior (seats, etc)
-Install gauge cluster/wire up gauges
-Tach modification so the Tach will work with the swap
-Fill all systems with fluid & bleed air
-Have exhaust built


I finished the wiring for the battery relocation. I spent most of last night and the previous night chatting with other Ctech members and some other car people that have done this job. They reviewed the diagrams, and confirmed my thoughts. When I went back to the fuse box, I saw there was another trap door on the other side. I cracked this opened, connected the wire, and sealed it all back up.

Tested with the multimeter, confirmed the wiring was working as it should.


Tried to connect the exhaust mid-pipe, however even after removing the hanger bracket it was still hitting the firewall & chassis. I will just take the whole thing down to the exhaust shop and have them use these flanges & make my 3" exhaust.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_battery_relocation.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/battery_relocation.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_battery_relocation2.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/battery_relocation2.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_battery_relocation3.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/battery_relocation3.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_battery_relocation4.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/battery_relocation4.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_exhaust.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/exhaust.JPG)


Does that exhaust routing look alright? I noticed I was able to put the midpipe over the east/west crossmember. If this is functional, I'm going to have the shop build it so it routes over that crossmember, then down the tunnel.

celica9303
08-10-2010, 03:28 AM
This shit run yet????

4thgenceli
08-10-2010, 03:46 AM
Well the heat combined with losing my job kinda didn't help much :P I've only been able to work on it for like 30 minutes before I can't focus anymore.

BUT anyway.... to continue from my last list.


Completed:
-Purchase & install MR2 starter
-Purchase & install fuel pump with new wiring to pump for increased draw
-Connect/route all vacuum hoses
-Install mr2 slave cylinder, may need to purchase mr2 hard lines slave to make this all work
-Install interior (seats, etc)
-Install gauge cluster/wire up gauges
-Complete wastegate bracket

Remaining:
-Purchase & install hybrid axles
-Purchase & install FMIC with BOV
-Purchase & build air intake
-Purchase & install new radiator (AutoPWR, dual core st165).
-Tach modification so the Tach will work with the swap
-Fill all systems with fluid & bleed air
-Have exhaust built


I need to find a mr2 slave cylinder pushrod to use, as the s53's pushrod is too big. This weekend I'll be connecting the battery and turning the ignition on (but not trying to start the engine) to verify all my connections & wiring and check lights/etc to make sure everything still works. Also the front bumper will come off this weekend to fab up a makeshift intercooler from cardboard so I can get some metal brackets fabbed to hang it by.

4thgenceli
08-13-2010, 05:13 AM
:mental notes:

#intercooler ordered
#intercooler piping ordered
#misc. intercooler hardware ordered
#fuel pump ordered


Need to order:
#radiator
#slim electric fans
#pressure PS hose
#mr2 inner axle stubs
#exhaust shop to build 3" exhaust
#muffler
#blow off valve (may just use the stock st215 one if I can figure out how to connect it)
#find homes for the 3 random plugs I have from the harness that aren't connected
#fluid fills
#ac idle-up valve vacuum lines connected (again, hoping the AC will work...)

This weekend I'll have the bumper off so I can get the brackets up. Will most likely be welding some on, as I'm keeping the AC (hopefully this doesn't lead to any cooling issues). Need to re-install the cat, for some reason it's not going on as easy as it came off :ugh:

All of the intercooler parts 'should' arrive mid-week... Please don't cut off or slow down any FedEX or UPS trucks please ;) Lol

ChrisD
08-13-2010, 05:08 PM
Good to see you're back at it. That reminds me, my car is sitting half apart right now....

4thgenceli
08-19-2010, 02:34 AM
Good to see you're back at it. That reminds me, my car is sitting half apart right now....
Hahahahaha.

Yeah, few weeks without a job was getting scary.

Intercooler & all the pipes arrived, have the Tbolt clamps, but I bought the wrong reducer for turbo -> pipes :( It's just a 'hair' off, so I should be able to squeeze it on there.

Funny thing, from SIS I ordered 24" of the 2.5" couplers. Was 39.99. If I bought 8x of the 3" couplers, it would of been about $55 :) I have a hack saw, and just bought myself a miter saw to make the cuts I need for the pipes/silicone as well.

ChrisD
08-19-2010, 05:13 PM
Cool. We managed to scoop up a great deal on a portable metal cutting bandsaw. That thing made short work of the pipes, hehe.

A big butchers knife might also work well for the couplers. Nice and sharp, probably slice right through.

4thgenceli
08-22-2010, 05:12 AM
Mental notes:
Re-check accessory belt tension in morning
Re-check torque on cat bolts/nut connections
Attach turbo coolant hard line
Attach wastegate line to turbine housing
Connect alternator <> manifold support bar

(sorry, just some things I don't want to forget).

I learned something today. If something takes 10 minutes to remove, it will take an hour to re-install. I removed the catalytic converter when I was clocking the turbo (had to get behind the catalytic converter to remove a stupid fucking c-clip that was impossible to reach). I'm kicking myself in the ass now about not doing this while I had it off, but live & learn. Removed the cat without an issue, 9 nuts 3 bolts and the o2 sensor and it was off. Trying to install it though, I had to remove the AC compressor and alternator to install it. No clue why....

Tomorrow now I'll be able to focus on the intercooler installation and pipes. I tried cutting the silicone hose with the hacksaw, but that just came out UGLY. Going to try to use the miter saw tomorrow with either the blade on it or the chop saw blade and hope one of those gives me nice cuts.

I see what you're talking about for the intercooler mounting Chris. I have some light gauge steel sheet I was trying to use for the intake box I'll cut a few strips from there for the core support. I'll move the horn (maybe remove it as I'm thinking of doing an airhorn setup lol) and the power steering cooling lines. The ghetto beading tool works GREAT.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs133.ash2/40005_1457368846388_1598373568_1085943_8322844_n.j pg

Just used it on the end of my straight pipe and it's SCHWEET. Just a test, when I actually do it I'll be a bit more precise with the bead. Still need to pick up some ricer mesh to protect the intercooler as well. After it's on I'll see how well it's hidden (as I'm missing the bottom black trim piece on the bumper) and then cut the mesh so I can have a lil' screen to block rocks/etc from hitting it until I can locate that trim piece.

4thgenceli
08-22-2010, 11:45 PM
Good news:
The turbo clocking is fully completed, all brackets re-attached.

Bad news:
I no longer haz AC.

4thgenceli
08-23-2010, 03:35 AM
To further clarify my above statement.....

Mental notes from yesterday done. Had to install/uninstall/install the exhaust shield everytime because I forgot it covered all those things :doh:

Anyway, that's all buttoned up and a big fat red DONE stamped across it. You can see I had to notch out my bracket and remove the turbo coolant hard line bracket that bolts to the wastegate actuator to make it fit.

BOOM!
http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_random_engine_shot.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/random_engine_shot.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_wastegate_bracket_done.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/wastegate_bracket_done.JPG)


About the time I was buttoning that up, I smashed the shit out of my knuckle and bled like a raggin' lady. Mark showed up about this time then (mar_phi6). Between him, my father inlaw, and myself the bumper & front trim came off with only a half of one of the clips broken :wooooot: I love how quick & easy it is to take off this bumper. 2x 17mm bolts, 2 snaps on each side, and slide the bish out!

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_bumper_removed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/bumper_removed.JPG)

That picture was taken after I pulled the AC components off. We tried mocking up the old radiator I had (as the autopwr one I'm buying is about the same size) along with the intercooler and there's no way I would be able to squeeze a 2.5" pipe through there. I would of had to have both the hot & cold side coming from the drivers side.

It was suggested by the inlaw to mount the radiator where the condenser was, and cut a hole in the front support bar for the radiator cap (which we would of then welded in a custom lid that could open/close for easy access to the radiator cap without loosing any integrity of the support. This would of given me the room I needed for the intercooler pipes. While I was thinking about this, Murgy gave me a great idea to do a V-radiator instead of the standard radiator. I would leave the top mounted as it normally is stock, and angle the bottom to mount where the condenser originally sat. This would free up the few inches I need, and I wouldn't have to cut into any of the core supports. I'll get around to mocking this up when I have time this week or over the next weekend.

Since I dropped the AC, I can fully center the intercooler now in the front, mount it up, and get everything run.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_fmic_start.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/fmic_start.JPG)

My solution to cutting the pipes. This didn't work as well for the silicone couplers, but worked better than a hacksaw/handsaw. The Diablo blade though DEVOURED the aluminum pipes. Very well worth the $40 I spent on the blade.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_cutting_station.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/cutting_station.JPG)

And finally... my offerings to the car god. There was more on the ground under the car, on my pants and the random towels/bandages I had to use lol.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_blood_equity.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/blood_equity.JPG)

Doowstados
09-01-2010, 09:16 AM
Finish soon please @_@ I'm getting antsy. I'm sure you are pulling your hair out of your head with excitement at this point.

4thgenceli
09-01-2010, 04:17 PM
Donate $500 to the cause and it'll be running in 2 weeks :)

dups90gt
09-03-2010, 02:06 AM
how did you put that bead on the pipe and can I get a better shot of your wastegate bracket? I see its nice and thick! I tried that but much thinner and im having wastegate problems.. it doesn't hold boost well.. leaking under boost.. wish I tested it before I put the turbo back...

4thgenceli
09-03-2010, 02:54 AM
how did you put that bead on the pipe and can I get a better shot of your wastegate bracket? I see its nice and thick! I tried that but much thinner and im having wastegate problems.. it doesn't hold boost well.. leaking under boost.. wish I tested it before I put the turbo back...
Idea came from ChrisD, which he got from DSM folks here.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/custom-fabrication/324132-homemade-intercooler-pipe-bead-tool.html

Basically a 2.5" exhaust hanger, a washer, vice grips, and weld them together as pictured :)

My wastegate bracket is made from 1/4" aluminum stock. I think I still have the template at home... or a failed attempt at it from some 16gauge steel (which was WAY too weak). The 1/4" don't look that purty, but it does the job and holds (but I don't think it's opening far enough though). I'll get some pictures either tonight or tomorrow. Depends when I have time to snap some. I'll be working at getting the intercooler installed this weekend (brackets coming back from the shop and a welder's coming over).


:question:
How far should the wastegate open?

ChrisD
09-03-2010, 04:12 PM
Someone should really get a pic of it all the way open with the stock positioned actuator. It's a hard thing to describe...

4thgenceli
09-03-2010, 04:31 PM
dups90gt: Check out this thread.

http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49165

There's some better shots of the bracket. I'll get those other pictures tonight when I get home.

Chris, in this picture, see the discoloration on the rod?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/celiman89/DSCN3481.jpg

That's as far as it goes out, and it only opens the wastegate I'd guess between 30 and 45 degrees.

4thgenceli
09-04-2010, 03:54 AM
dups90gt:

Just for you!
http://celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30122325

dups90gt
09-04-2010, 02:21 PM
thanks! i just ordered a 1x1ft 1/4 plate! is that the stock actuator in your pic? the arm looks really straight

4thgenceli
09-04-2010, 03:29 PM
thanks! i just ordered a 1x1ft 1/4 plate! is that the stock actuator in your pic? the arm looks really straight
Yeah it's the stock one. It's crooked in that picture (it's re-mounted on the other side now and straighter lol).

ChrisD
09-04-2010, 04:33 PM
I wonder if it is worth it for me to pull off my downpipe while I'm at all this to grab a picture of mine wide open, before I clock it.

4thgenceli
09-06-2010, 03:38 AM
So I took a different approach (I think) to mounting my intercooler.

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_intercooler_mounted.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/intercooler_mounted.JPG)

My bracket of choice:

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_intercooler_bracket.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/intercooler_bracket.JPG)

I'll make a shelf type bracket that goes from the lower radiator support (core support I guess it is) that comes down, forward, and up to give a few inches of support on the bottom (and only cover like 3" of the bottom row of fins).

As it sits now, I think maybe 2" or so may be hanging out below my bumper. I need to get that lower black trim that goes on the bottom of the bumper.

ChrisD
09-07-2010, 05:15 PM
Nice, I like the mount setup.

mar_phi6
09-15-2010, 02:00 AM
is it running yet !

4thgenceli
09-22-2010, 08:26 PM
I may adjust the brackets so the intercooler is lifted up just a bit.


http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/g1/Jasmine/normal_intercooler_frontmount.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/g1/Jasmine/intercooler_frontmount.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/g1/Jasmine/normal_intercooler_topmount.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/g1/Jasmine/intercooler_topmount.JPG)

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/g1/Jasmine/normal_intercooler_side.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/g1/Jasmine/intercooler_side.JPG)

187flatliner
09-23-2010, 06:37 AM
Yeah even with the lower lip it will still sit lower than the lip it self. The lip is only about 4 inches lower.

4thgenceli
09-26-2010, 02:03 AM
So that was the before... and the slightest change in the angles of the mount brackets made all the difference. Just need to do a bit more adjustment to make the inlet/outlet level so the pipes aren't pointing down when they come off the cooler.


http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_intercooler_final.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/intercooler_final.JPG)

Looks almost stock!

http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/normal_bumper_installed.JPG (http://ourlewisfamily.net/gallery/../content/Jasmine/bumper_installed.JPG)