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92celicagts
08-26-2009, 05:48 PM
What are all of the Alltrac models?

ALLTRAC
ALLTRAC GT4
ALLTRAC GT4RC

Or are the GT4 and GT4RC the only actual models?

Murgatroy
08-26-2009, 05:57 PM
Alltrac

GT4

GT4RC/GT4CS/GT4 Group A Rallye

The Alltrac is the NADM version of the GT4.

GT4 is what it was called elsewhere.

The GT4RC/CS/Groupe A was the racing homologation model to make it eligible for the WRC.

92celicagts
08-26-2009, 06:00 PM
AWesome, much appreciated. I'm working on getting a 5th gen Alltrac right now, wasn't sure if it was actually a GT4 or not. Any major differences between the ALLTRAC and GT4? Or just the name?

Murgatroy
08-26-2009, 06:09 PM
The name, the NADM emissions equipment and the ECU. The JDM ECU is more aggressively tuned for the higher RON fuel in Japan. Also, the US requires EGR systems, thus the emissions.

An NADM ST185 might be rated at closer to 200HP versus the JDM at 225HP.

ChrisD
08-26-2009, 06:16 PM
Basically name only, with the exception of the RC/CS/GrpA/WRC editions. At the end of the day, Alltrac = GT-Four = Turbo 4WD

Here it is roughly...

Turbo 4WD: Canada Market (1988-93)
Turbo 4WD: Europe Market (1988-89)
Alltrac: US Market (1988-93)
GT-Four: Japan Market (1986-1998)
GT-Four: Europe Market (1990-98)
GT-Four RC: Japan Market (1992-93 special edition)
GT-Four CS: Europe Market (1992-93 special edition)
GT-Four Group A Rallye: Australia Market (1992-93 special edition)
GT-Four WRC: All Markets (1994 special edition)

92celicagts
08-26-2009, 06:20 PM
ALright sweet. Appreciate the help guys. I'll talk to the guy I'm buying the car from and see if he knows if it's a NADM ST185 or JDM ST185.

Murgatroy
08-26-2009, 06:21 PM
Yeah, I forgot that Canada had that Turbo 4WD thing.

Murgatroy
08-26-2009, 06:22 PM
ALright sweet. Appreciate the help guys. I'll talk to the guy I'm buying the car from and see if he knows if it's a NADM ST185 or JDM ST185.
Odds are really really good that it is a USDM Alltrac.

The GT4 is very, very rare in the United States. I can seriously think of only 5 off the top of my head.

92celicagts
08-26-2009, 06:32 PM
Oh wow. Yeah I won't even bother asking lol, if it's that rare, I'm buying it for pretty cheap so it probably is the NADM version.

Razors_Edge
08-26-2009, 06:34 PM
great question, with some very interesting info i hadnt really ever thought about!

METDeath
08-26-2009, 06:36 PM
Get the VIN and check it, easy way to tell. Go plug it into toyodiy.com and it will tell you all kinds of crap. That aside, you should be running a vehicle history report with whomever your preferred agency is (carfax/vehix/autocheck/etc)

ChrisD
08-26-2009, 06:46 PM
errr....easy way to tell.

JDM = Right Hand Drive
USDM = Left Hand Drive

:hehe:

Smaay
08-26-2009, 09:07 PM
im thinking of selling my All-Trac...interested? i just dont have time for it and i already have 3 other boosted cars

92celicagts
08-27-2009, 02:57 AM
I've already got my eyes set on one, but what year/gen/color/miles/price/aftermarket parts?

zank
08-27-2009, 04:16 AM
Is there another way to identify a GT-Four besides the badge in the back? Im about to pick up a Celica 5th gen that has a GT-Four badge on the hatch. I have yet to pop the hood to see what its got.


im thinking of selling my All-Trac...interested? i just dont have time for it and i already have 3 other boosted cars
hey whats up man, i believe we have met before, at SILV. Just out of curiosity how much are you selling that all-track for?

Shadowlife25
08-27-2009, 06:11 AM
Is there another way to identify a GT-Four besides the badge in the back? Im about to pick up a Celica 5th gen that has a GT-Four badge on the hatch. I have yet to pop the hood to see what its got.

Look under the car. If it has a driveline and a rear differential, odds are you're good to go.