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liplip
08-23-2009, 04:29 AM
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Toyota-Celica-2-2-GT-94-99-Exhaust-Header-5SGTE_W0QQitemZ330353705948QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4cea9d83dc&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Freshnicity
08-23-2009, 05:11 AM
Itll bolt up to the head without any issues. As for the lower exhaust flange I dont know, not sure if the 6th Gen(94-99 Celicas) had a different flange on that lower exhaust pipe, or what.

I know for sure itll bolt right up to your head though.

Galcobar
08-23-2009, 05:24 AM
Except it will remove your catalytic converter, which will lead to failing emission testing, unless you slip a cat into the mid-pipe.

That said -- $10 for a header? Gah, that wouldn't pay for the materials in anything of quality.

celicaturbo700
08-23-2009, 04:03 PM
Itll bolt up to the head without any issues. As for the lower exhaust flange I dont know, not sure if the 6th Gen(94-99 Celicas) had a different flange on that lower exhaust pipe, or what.

I know for sure itll bolt right up to your head though.
i have the same header in my garage. ill measure the flange on my extra manifold laying around and the header flange and get back to you lateron today :cool:

celicaturbo700
08-23-2009, 04:19 PM
update: the flange on the bottom is a direct fit to the stock exhaust.. although im getting a 2.5 made from the header back with no cat just a muffler out the back. :bigthumbu

chaos_gts
08-23-2009, 04:51 PM
I have that exact same header. Its a direct fit but required minor modification of the flange gasket( making the circle bigger) and the O2 sensor( filing the holes to on the O2 as the studs on the header were slightly bent)

Its a great quality header and for $10 your getting it a lot cheaper than what i paid for :)
I felt some power gains from 3-5k and it screams when you hit 4k. By screams i mean raspy but i love the sound (think honda lol)

Physlis
08-27-2009, 09:35 AM
Not to sound like a newbie, but I'm kinda confused. Is the block (designated 5S?) the same for the 5th and 6th gens? Just figured I'd ask since I'm looking for options like this for my '90 GT-S. The GT and GT-S have the same engine right?

Cavanagh
08-27-2009, 04:16 PM
I would not buy it the sheer fact they cannot even get the engine for the car right.....

Smaay
08-27-2009, 04:39 PM
awe thats just a typo. get the header. i have it on my car. and yes the 5S-FE is about 98% the same between the 5th gen and 6th gen.

http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42724

liplip
09-01-2009, 12:40 AM
I tried changing to the ebay header that I bought but i hit a snag.Bolts are all rusted.The adapter on my socket wrench broke when i was on my 2nd bolt trying to get off the heat shield.I sprayed the bolts with wd40 10 mins prior and still had a hard time getting off the bolts.Any ideas?

Physlis
09-01-2009, 04:15 AM
I would suggest getting a larger-drive socket (I'm going to guess you were using a 3/8"-1/4" step-down), you can pick one up at most automotive stores. While you're at it, if you don't have one, get a breaker-bar as well. If nothing else, you'll get more leverage and won't break your ratchet if you decide to use a cheater bar. Heck, hit 'em with more WD40 before you go and if you still have trouble then it'll probably be because the bolt-heads sheared off...

andy
09-01-2009, 05:38 AM
wtf is a 5sgte?

KoreanJoey
09-01-2009, 06:06 AM
I tried changing to the ebay header that I bought but i hit a snag.Bolts are all rusted.The adapter on my socket wrench broke when i was on my 2nd bolt trying to get off the heat shield.I sprayed the bolts with wd40 10 mins prior and still had a hard time getting off the bolts.Any ideas?

Buy a better socket wrench.

rizin
09-01-2009, 09:02 AM
Well andy a 5sgte is a what some guys might call a frankinstien. It is a 3sgte engine with a 5SFE block normally at the point of calling it a 5sgte it has a forged 5s bottom end. 2.164L stock so .020 over bore for the new forged pistons for boost. 3sgte heads built for performance stock I guess better valve angle as hear(g denotes that)So in simple that is a 5sgte 3sgte engine with the displacement of a 5sfe block.

rizin
09-01-2009, 09:16 AM
Well physlis if I got it right your all trac has a 3sgte and your gts has a 5sfe the gt has a 5sfe and the st has a 4age I think that is the right code for the engine. st=1.6L
gt or gts=2.2 depends on what year. alltrac or gt4=2.0 turbo.

rizin
09-01-2009, 09:52 AM
Well since i got off the thread topic to get back on it use a 6 point socket on all exaust bolts never use a 12 pt. and if you don't strip it you will break it> I will never use under a 3/8 drive for trouble some bolts.

Physlis
09-01-2009, 10:18 AM
I didn't have my owner's manual in front of me at the time, but you were close rizin.

I think it's actually:
ST=4AFE 1.6L
GT/GT-S=5SFE 2.2L
GT-Four/All-trac 3SGTE 2.0L turbo

So if I'm reading right then 4A, 5S, & 3S are the block codes? If so then anything associated with the block would be interchangeable? Within reason anyhow.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. Or atleast point me in the right direction.

Galcobar
09-02-2009, 02:44 AM
A, S are the block codes -- transmissions which mate to a 5SFE will mate to a 3SGTE, or a 3SFE (though you might blow the 5SFE stock transmission with the power of a 3SGTE).

The block is designated as economy-oriented via F or performance-oriented via G, and electronically fuel injected via the E at the end. There are other designations (Z for supercharged, or with VVTl-i depending upon its position in the engine code, T for turbo, etc). The relative age of the design is indicated by the first number, but the engine code does not reflect revisions to the original design, so a 3SGTE may be a variant from 2005 and much more modern than a 5SFE revision 1 produced in 1989.