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DudeMan
08-08-2009, 06:02 PM
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2331682&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

I've had this thread bookmarked for a long time now and I've read through quite a bit of it. This guy is painting his cars with a roller and doing a kick ass job of it.

In the first few pages people are obviously skeptical but the thread goes on for two years and all these other guys start playing around with it. Has anyone on here given it a try?

It's a lot of work and takes quite a while but it looks like a good alternative to a professional paint job.

I'd like to try it out on some old body panel or my moms Buick.

What do you guys think?

Edit; Excuse me if this has been brought up before, I can't remember where I found the link, might of been on here.

Blackcloud
08-08-2009, 06:05 PM
what is the advantage of this method?

DudeMan
08-08-2009, 06:07 PM
You pay about $50, instead of whatever a shop would charge.

Blackcloud
08-08-2009, 09:56 PM
i guess what i ment to say was.... why not spray it yourself?

Galcobar
08-08-2009, 10:21 PM
Assumes you have the equipment, if you mean a spray gun etc. That investment would kind of kill the do-it-yourself savings.

On the other hand, if you mean spray cans, you'll pay what, US$8 per can? Significantly more expensive for a multi-coat job.

DudeMan
08-08-2009, 10:29 PM
Yeah if you actually read the thread a bit the guy explains why the roller is better. He says hes painted several cars with a spray gun and switching to a roller was a much better alternative, less waste and mess.

GT4SOM
08-08-2009, 11:33 PM
I think I might actually try this. I have to paint my Celicas. I first might try it on my dad's 92 corolla that looks like crap. I'll use it as a practice car lol.

As far as spray goes, its not just about the technique, you have to know how to do it. I have a 33 Gal/150 pis Craftsman compressor for my air tools, I thought about buying a paint gun. The down side to spraying is that you should really do it in a booth. I can get a booth for a day for about 150usd. That price doesn't include the paints/ hardners etc... and you have to do all your spraying that same day or you have to rent the booth again. I really think I might look into this. Like the guy mentions in the thread, the worse that can happen is that your out on 50 bucks.

rizin
08-08-2009, 11:40 PM
I love the idea I will have to try it out.

Galcobar
08-09-2009, 12:05 AM
Or one can go for a combination -- spray the top coat for the finish, but roll and sand the primer and base coats.

Murgatroy
08-09-2009, 12:33 AM
There are three or four threads about it here.

Several folks have tried it.

celicaGT90_05
08-09-2009, 01:44 AM
yeah I remember seeing a guy or 2 here give it a try. From what I remember, it wouldn't lay quite as smooth, but theres always wet sanding.

Physlis
08-10-2009, 10:27 AM
I was going to try this myself after I read an article in Hot Rod Magazine where they did it on an old '78 Ford Falcon (or something like that) and the article was entitled "The $98 Paintjob". It came out pretty good but they did it over a 10-day span which wouldn't have worked out since my celi's my DD. However if I had the time and a back-up car I definitely would have given this a try 'cuz I'm always on a budget.

Opted to buy a paintgun and compressor from Checker (about $100), a one-stage paint ($140), ganked some aircraft canopy cover plastic and aircraft wash-tape from work and did it in my driveway over the weekend. It ain't the best job ever done, but for my first try it sure beats the tri-tone I was rocking for the last 3 years. Took about 3 hours to paint, no significant runs and I think only 1 bug landed on the car the whole night.

dynamic73
08-10-2009, 04:16 PM
I was going to try this myself after I read an article in Hot Rod Magazine where they did it on an old '78 Ford Falcon (or something like that) and the article was entitled "The $98 Paintjob". It came out pretty good but they did it over a 10-day span which wouldn't have worked out since my celi's my DD. However if I had the time and a back-up car I definitely would have given this a try 'cuz I'm always on a budget.

Opted to buy a paintgun and compressor from Checker (about $100), a one-stage paint ($140), ganked some aircraft canopy cover plastic and aircraft wash-tape from work and did it in my driveway over the weekend. It ain't the best job ever done, but for my first try it sure beats the tri-tone I was rocking for the last 3 years. Took about 3 hours to paint, no significant runs and I think only 1 bug landed on the car the whole night.


I bet it looks as good or better. Than most of those who have tried the roller method. 3 hrs. VS 10 days. I think I would have to try and spray my car 1st.

Slider
08-10-2009, 04:17 PM
The roller method just takes a good amount of time and work. A lot of sanding, it's a pain in the ass. If you have the time and patience then go for it.

Nitro_Alltrac
08-10-2009, 06:00 PM
I've read about this before and it does work but it takes A LOT of sanding to get it to lay right.

Physlis
08-11-2009, 02:10 AM
I bet it looks as good or better. Than most of those who have tried the roller method. 3 hrs. VS 10 days. I think I would have to try and spray my car 1st.

3 hours only entailed spraying the car, all the prep work was done earlier so all I needed to do was give it a quick wash, tape it up and paint over the weekend. Didn't do any sanding or anything so it's got a 'unique' texture to it.
10 days was just the time-frame HR used since they were doing it for an article and wanted to do it 'right' while using Rustoleum paint. I'm sure it could be done quicker depending on the paint or access to a booth.

Like I said though; if I had the time and know-how to make it work I definitely would have gone with the roller method, even if it was just to save some money.

joe's gt
08-11-2009, 02:16 AM
Spray all the way. Don't need a booth. Just sand after primer and base coat. Then color sand and buff the clear. Way faster, way less work. Worth the extra few hundred dollars to get a gun and some paint IMO. It will give you a better finish with way less work.

The only hard part about spraying is getting the gun settings set correctly. After that its pretty much a piece of cake.

vms4evr
08-15-2009, 10:58 PM
I did my 90 Celica GT this way. I chose black too. About the worst color you can use if you make mistakes. It was fun but took a long time.

3 qts of Rustoleum black, few packets of 4" foam rollers, few packs of sandpaper. About $100 in materials. I still have a bunch left over. Lots of wet sanding to do and lots of coats. I think I did about 10 coats. You have to thin the stuff out a lot.

It was an interesting experiment but I have a compressor now and would just try it with a gun next time.

It has held up real well though.

rizin
08-16-2009, 12:46 AM
I would say I like the idea of painting a car with a paint roller. I now live in a fifth wheel beacuse my job. So it would be a lot easier for me then having to spray my paint. On the finish of paint it all depends on the persons knowledge of how to work the paint. I can't wait to learn the roller way beacuse I don't need a compressor, hose or spray gun. So it is easy for me to pull my car out of the storage unit and roll on the paint since a storage unit doesn't have power to use a compressor.

david in germany
08-17-2009, 01:09 PM
I did my 4runner this way but I wasn't looking for pretty. I am very happy with what I got and am quite sure that if I would take the time and sand more then it would look great! I did not thin the paint so i iave a cool texture feel to it (kinda like shark skin) but it does shine. I have had quite a few complements on my $40 roller job!

If you have the time, it is a great option but remember to thin the paint well and have alot of sand paper ready!

david in germany
08-17-2009, 01:16 PM
Before (picture was taken when i was breaking bolts trying to drop my gas tank when my brake line exploded....)
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/7/8/distraught.JPG
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/7/8/DOH.JPG
now
http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/7/8/P1020884.JPG

ChrisD
08-18-2009, 06:14 PM
holy crap 190 pages. i have no useful comment whatsoever on this method of painting.

93cc
08-19-2009, 03:50 AM
I'm giving this a try on my 81 Celica. Here are a few pictures after the first coat.

http://www.93alltrac.com/other/81%20Celica%20Hatch/DSC00938%20-%20Copy.JPG

http://www.93alltrac.com/other/81%20Celica%20Hatch/DSC00933%20-%20Copy.JPG

finished the first wetsanding and the third coat today.

david in germany
08-20-2009, 09:10 PM
and updates?

93cc
08-21-2009, 04:27 AM
wet-sanded and put another coat on tonight. I think it looks really good except for the area's were the original paint had faded. I should have done a better job of prepping it. Since the paint is suppose to self level I didn't think I needed to sand down those area's so they were level. I'll see if I can resolve that will the next coat or two.

Otherwise I think this is a great way to paint your car. Just make sure you prep it to start with and then it only takes an hour or so each day until you get the number of coats you want.

I'll post some more pics when It's done on Saturday or Sunday

david in germany
08-22-2009, 09:07 PM
Get some progress pics up nauw!

93cc
08-25-2009, 03:37 AM
Ok here they are... I think it came out pretty good for my first attempt at this.

I will probably sand it all down and try again sometime down the road when my Alltrac it running and I don't need to drive this car every day.

There's a little orange peal because either I put the paint down a little heavy or I didn't wetsand enough, could be for both reasons too I suppose.

I decide to not polish the paint because of the orange peal and because of not sanding down all of the faded original paint and just left it with more of a matted finish.

http://www.93alltrac.com/other/81%20Celica%20Hatch/IMG_0323%20-%20Copy.JPG


http://www.93alltrac.com/other/81%20Celica%20Hatch/IMG_0324%20-%20Copy.JPG


http://www.93alltrac.com/other/81%20Celica%20Hatch/IMG_0325%20-%20Copy.JPG


http://www.93alltrac.com/other/81%20Celica%20Hatch/IMG_0326%20-%20Copy.JPG


http://www.93alltrac.com/other/81%20Celica%20Hatch/IMG_0327%20-%20Copy.JPG


http://www.93alltrac.com/other/81%20Celica%20Hatch/IMG_0328%20-%20Copy.JPG

david in germany
08-25-2009, 04:56 AM
Good job !

Nitro_Alltrac
08-25-2009, 10:27 PM
From the pictures, it looks pretty damn good!

DudeMan
08-25-2009, 11:02 PM
Are those cell phone pictures?

93cc
08-26-2009, 01:03 AM
Are those cell phone pictures?

yea... Iphone... sized down