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alistair
08-05-2009, 03:18 AM
I need new tires for my celica. There's currently P195/60R15 on the rims however a couple are kinda worn and they're 5+ years old so should be replaced.

I was eyeballing the Uniroyal Tiger paw touring.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/4/Auto/1/TiresRims/PerformanceTires/PRD~0042858P/Uniroyal%2BTiger%2BPaw%2BTouring.jsp

I like the looks of it, and it has an H speed rating and the price is acceptable.

Any reason I shouldn't buy these? I'm still toying with the idea of getting a better summer tire instead of an all season, then getting dedicated winter tires for it.

I do drive like an idiot most of the time, but I'd rather not have to replace the tires after one season which might happen with a softer, higher performance tire.

Cheers

Grot
08-05-2009, 04:03 AM
I personally would go with these as an allseason performance

Kumho AST (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=ECSTA+AST) in 195/50/15
or maybe these
Kumho ASX (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ecsta+ASX) in 195/(55,60,65)/15

depending on how much u wanna spend

85gtsblackman
08-05-2009, 10:42 AM
if they still make em try the yokohama avids, great grip, but wear like iron

btw you probally could go to a 205/55/15 for a lil more grip, better tracton and cornering, and also the speedo should still be accurate with that size

Hipster Lawrence
08-05-2009, 01:48 PM
Just get a cheap h-rated tire. NOT GOODYEAR. Something like a Falken Kumho Hankook or something like that. The yokohama avid h-4 is a good tire as blackman said.

alistair
08-05-2009, 04:34 PM
The 205 looks like a better fit than the 195. I'll have to see if a shop will test them to see if they rub when turning hard.

Hellbillylarry: Why not goodyear?

Trance4c
08-05-2009, 04:38 PM
Check the Tire Review Thread (http://www.celicatech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23737).

This is in the Brakes, Tires & Suspension area (http://www.celicatech.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=17).

Nitro_Alltrac
08-05-2009, 05:52 PM
I personally would go with these as an allseason performance

Kumho AST (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=ECSTA+AST) in 195/50/15
or maybe these
Kumho ASX (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ecsta+ASX) in 195/(55,60,65)/15

depending on how much u wanna spend

+1 on both of these. I've been running them on my car in a 205-50-15. Pretty happy with them and the price from Tire Rack is good.

Waffles!
08-05-2009, 05:57 PM
+1 to Falken tires

ChrisD
08-05-2009, 06:16 PM
Hey Alistair - the stock 165 came with 205's, so if you're swapping out definitely go back to 205's if you can. 205/55R15 is the size you should get if you can find 'em. (stock is 205/60R14)

I can't speak to the uniroyal tires, but I'd personally err to something more performance oriented. I would go to a dedicated tire shop to get them personally...or even sometimes you can find good deals on nice tires at costco. Tire rack also stocks everything under the sun.

If you car is not lowered you won't have any issues with rubbing. The offset on the wheels is +39 and the wheel is only 6.5" wide, so you'll be fine. I think I've rubbed once, and my car is lowered, and that was at the track under very very hard cornering. ;)

Hipster Lawrence
08-05-2009, 07:09 PM
Hellbillylarry: Why not goodyear?

They suck! They always vibrate never ride good. Unless you buy the ultra expensive ones you might as well buy a chinese tire.

5thgenkeeper
08-05-2009, 07:32 PM
if they still make em try the yokohama avids, great grip, but wear like iron

btw you probally could go to a 205/55/15 for a lil more grip, better tracton and cornering, and also the speedo should still be accurate with that size

That's what is on mine, tough size to find though. BFG Traction T/As are about all I could find that was affordable and I don't exactly love them.

KoreanJoey
08-06-2009, 07:05 AM
Been happy with Hankook. I own both the previous extreme performance tire (RS2, now down to cord after a season of racing w/ 4 clubs) and their winter performance tire (IPike W409, the only reason I even made it to the dragon, where Steve and I hit snow in Montana).

usp45
08-06-2009, 07:48 AM
The 205 looks like a better fit than the 195. I'll have to see if a shop will test them to see if they rub when turning hard.



I had 205s on my 88 gts and they hit the fenders alot over bumps and and when cornering hard. didn't help that I have blown struts and sagging springs, but the point is, instead of bottoming out on the bump stops the tires hit fender. I switched to 195 falken radials, problem solved. and I do reccomend the falkens.

85gtsblackman
08-06-2009, 09:00 AM
musta had a pretty shot suspension, im running 205/60/15s on the 6th gen and the suspension died longggggggggggggg ago

KoreanJoey
08-06-2009, 02:17 PM
He's talking about a 4th gen and you're comparing the 6th? Not even close to the same wheel well dimensions.

For example, the 6th gen GT-Four fit 16x7.5" wheels, STOCK. You probably wouldn't even fit that wheel under a 4th Gen without massaging the fenders.

T-spoon
08-06-2009, 04:08 PM
I'm on scion wheels which I'm pretty sure I have at least 205 tires on and I do not bump and rub on fairly worn shocks. Is there extra clearance on the alltracs? I didn't think so, but maybe.. then again, I don't rub on the side that has a GT fender either, so I don't know what to tell you. Maybe USP's problem wasn't the 205, but being larger total diameter than stock, mine are low profile specifically to avoid such issues with the larger wheel.

ChrisD
08-06-2009, 04:40 PM
I had 205s on my 88 gts and they hit the fenders alot over bumps and and when cornering hard. didn't help that I have blown struts and sagging springs, but the point is, instead of bottoming out on the bump stops the tires hit fender. I switched to 195 falken radials, problem solved. and I do reccomend the falkens.

Stock is 205 width, and does not rub. Width is not the only dimension to look at.

Like I said 205/55R15 won't rub - this is nearly identical in dimension to the stock tires

METDeath
08-06-2009, 11:36 PM
+1 for Kumho Excsta AST I've had them since I got rims on the car, they've made it through 20K miles just fine. I may replace them due to getting new wheels this spring though.

usp45
08-06-2009, 11:57 PM
Stock is 205 width, and does not rub. Width is not the only dimension to look at.

Like I said 205/55R15 won't rub - this is nearly identical in dimension to the stock tires

I think the sidewalls were 60 maybe even 65? on the tires (came on the car when bought) that I had the rubbing problems with. so that would explain it.

KoreanJoey
08-07-2009, 05:18 AM
I rub on bumps w/ the 255/50R16s...

*shrug*

KoreanJoey
08-07-2009, 05:20 AM
My solution might be the 275/35R15s

:)

85gtsblackman
08-07-2009, 05:52 PM
then u would need at least 9 inch wide 15

COLDAX
08-10-2009, 03:49 AM
I was eyeballing the Uniroyal Tiger paw touring.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/4/Auto/1/TiresRims/PerformanceTires/PRD~0042858P/Uniroyal%2BTiger%2BPaw%2BTouring.jsp

I like the looks of it, and it has an H speed rating and the price is acceptable.

Any reason I shouldn't buy these?

They were on the Volvo S70 I bought and they pretty much suck. The car is supposed to have V-rated; the H's only get a few MPGs better but to me it's not worth the very sketchy feeling going around curves in the rain general lack of balls.

I would avoid them and get the Kumho ASX. I had 2 sets on my 91 GTS and was very pleased for all-year performance. They stick all the time, even in 0 degree cold, standing water, and did well in up to 4 inches of snow.

KoreanJoey
08-10-2009, 06:48 AM
then u would need at least 9 inch wide 15

Says who? We can get it on an 8".

If we can do 295/30s on an 18x8 I don't see why not.

85gtsblackman
08-10-2009, 08:06 AM
well it will fit but will probally have bulbus sidewalls


i did fit 225/60/14s on a 14x5.5, i wouldnt have done it on a car but that was on a truck

im going to eventually put 225/50/15's on the 15x7s i have for the stx but i wouldnt go any wider for a number of reasons, mainly the lack of hp

KoreanJoey
08-12-2009, 07:59 AM
Dude... Hoosier A6s are cantilever sidewalls anyways.

ST1LLz82
08-13-2009, 12:20 AM
i've riden on khumo's and they were exquisite go with those. I wanna try out Falken's though.

Slider
08-13-2009, 02:55 AM
[thread jack]

There was an interesting article in the August 09 issue of Grassroots Motorsports. It compared different size Hoosier A6s on the same 18x8 wheel. The two sizes were 285/30R18 and 255/35R18. The smaller size was more responsive but felt slower in corners and braking. The data in the test revealed that the more narrow (255) tires were faster on the course and pulled more Gs than the 285 width tires.

KoreanJoey
08-13-2009, 07:07 AM
The issue I have with that is that 99.9% of the time it's been an issue with running correct tire pressures w/ the cantilevers. Same deal with true race slicks, they respond slower but make greater overall traction, I mean hell, they're bias ply.

*shrug* Weight is also a factor. Can't expect everything to work the same without adjusting for tires.

Cavanagh
08-13-2009, 09:52 AM
Holy Hell Coldax! Sorry for the :jacked:
Oh, and no one answered his question, everyone went on a rant about there own tire sizes. If i were you, although hard to call because I have no idea where you are, i would rock some summer tires IF weather conditions are not a problem wherever "oihoihoi" is, which sounds like Hawaii, in which i would rock only an awesome summer tire. Though, In my position i would get high performance All-seasons, just the fact that we have all 4 seasons here.

Galcobar
08-13-2009, 11:53 AM
I figured it was a fanciful phonetic take on Ohio.

alistair
08-14-2009, 04:28 AM
Hah, Forgot I had my town set like that. I was annoyed when I signed up because I wanted to read an article and found out I had to register first, lol.

I'm up in northern Canada, where we get 4 months of construction and 8 months of bitter cold winter love.

So, a straight summer tire isn't feasable, not this season anyway. I think I've made my mind up to get 205 wide tires instead of 195's more traction means more love.

Does Kumho make a decent all season tire? I might also just see if I can get a set of Gislaved Nordfrost 5's for winter. I have a set for my focus and they're pretty rockstar.

Slider
08-14-2009, 04:52 AM
I really like the Nokian WR (http://www.nokiantires.com/tyre?id=11884&group=1.01&name=Nokian+WR) as an all-season tire. Great in the snow, and the wet. In the dry it's not going to be as grippy as others but for me they were great. I feel safe driving this tire all year round.

Kumho's should be decent. I wish I had more advice for all-seasons but I run dedicated summer tires. Check out tirerack.com and 1010tires.com for tests and reviews. Also googling the tire name + reviews will get your results from different sites and forums.

Nitro_Alltrac
08-14-2009, 11:34 AM
I've ran both the Kuhmo AST and ASX and they do really good, at least for the amount of snow that we get (2"-3" at a time throughout the winter). I've been happy with them and will buy again.

The ASX is non-directional and has a little higher tread wear rating, but I've been happy with both.

5thgenkeeper
08-14-2009, 11:51 AM
Personally I wouldn't drive a FWD Celica in a Canadian winter without snow tires and chains on it :) Do yourself a favor and get snow tires and a second set of wheels, they are pretty easy to come by, especially if you are in Ontario or BC. Any of the studless snow tires are good but Michelin X-Ice are the best IMO. I'd get something tall and skinny like 185/70. For the summer get the Uniroyals or whatever you can afford. I don't know if you've driven the car in the winter before but the long wheel base and low clearance make it pretty terrible without AWD, it needs all the help it can get.

Edit: Opps, just noticed you do have an all-trac. Carry on then :) You'll still be slipping and sliding pretty badly on any of the no-season tires. Those Nokians mentioned above would be my choice if I had to get just one set.

davmac
08-14-2009, 04:28 PM
+1 for Nokian WR as either dedicated winter or all season. MN is not quite northern Canada, but still offers plenty opportunities for driving on snow. I really like that I don't have to change tires with the Nokians though they can be tough to find and aren't cheap. I had Nokians year round on a 93 G20 and 90 Camry. You will get 40 - 50K miles using them all year, longer if only in winter.

T-spoon
08-14-2009, 06:38 PM
I agree that winter tires are the way to go unless you really just can't afford two sets. Studded tires + alltrac really make winters enjoyable (the look on SUV drivers' faces is priceless when you calmly cruise up a hill beside them plowing your own lane), and obviously in that case wider isn't better on the tire, but for summer I'd hate to be on all-seasons or winter tires, that would be such a buzzkill.