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tuner4life
06-11-2009, 03:39 PM
I am looking at my options for getting a winter vehicle. (not selling the celica). I Really like the Nissan pathfinder. I like 4 runners also, but they are pricey and I have heard about head gasket issues (not sure what years though). I also have seen a few early-mid 90s Land Cruisers for less than 4k. I dont know anything about them. Are they reliable? Any known problems? What do you guys know about them. Especially you toyota techs.

extremeskillz
06-11-2009, 05:57 PM
They are Toyota, what more needs to be said!

importrcr13
06-11-2009, 05:59 PM
I used to sell toyotas for a living, and we sold maybe 5 LC's a year... however they are probably one of the best off road TRAIL vehicles, very solid frame, in the previous years... they've bastardized the LC over the years trying to compete with luxury liners instead of the off road heritage. The truck is still very off road handy... I'd say the 90's is probably a peak of when they were trying to reach and take away their rugged-ness and swing into the luxury stage. None the less they are great vehicles (i would own one if i had the $$) Only issue i've ever heard of the LC's are that they have electrical issues... never heard any issues with power train AT ALL... (doesn't mean there aren't any) but I worked for toyota 3 1/2 years and have sold 3 or 4 of them from the mid 90's to newest version.

I know its not the best opinion or anything but if you get a chance for a clean one, I'd snag it up. They're great and last forever!

tuner4life
06-11-2009, 07:06 PM
Cool!

Cavanagh
06-11-2009, 08:07 PM
Meh, IMO i'd rather snag up a 4Runner.

donteatbugs
06-11-2009, 08:12 PM
kt drove a 85 fj60 for her first car. it was a beast but lost compression on one cylinder and is down for the count. her parents still have it though and its just rusting away because they want like 4000 for it and it doesnt run good at all.

importrcr13
06-11-2009, 08:14 PM
Meh, IMO i'd rather snag up a 4Runner.

4runners are great vehicles! However, if you like to spend tons of $$ on gas, and oil they're not the most practical truck... even for the 90's the v6's get horrible mileage and fuel pumps start giving you issues and in most cases go out... (most cases, not all the time) i believe the motors in them are the 3vze?

It's all preference... are you looking to tow anything durring the winter?

Hipster Lawrence
06-11-2009, 08:30 PM
Are you talking about the ones with the gigantic inline six? If so they are awesome trucks there was a customer at the shop I used to work at that owned one one with like 450k miles. I'll bet they use more gas than a 4-runner though.

importrcr13
06-11-2009, 09:04 PM
Yes they do have the inline 3.0, however compared to the 4runner of the same year, ones i've seen are getting like 12mpg... I have a neighbor with an older LC getting close to 18-19mpg with his inline 6... things a ruby red colour ... BEAUTIFUL car for its age...

CriScO
06-11-2009, 11:24 PM
Just remember that it is technically a specialty vehicle. Aftermarket parts aren't as easy to find as other Toyotas.

alltracman78
06-12-2009, 12:02 AM
Nothing against you personally man, but I've almost never seen a car salesman that knew much of anything about cars, and your posts aren't helping much.


4runners are great vehicles! However, if you like to spend tons of $$ on gas, and oil they're not the most practical truck... even for the 90's the v6's get horrible mileage and fuel pumps start giving you issues and in most cases go out... (most cases, not all the time) i believe the motors in them are the 3vze?

Gas isn't that bad.
The 3.0 should get just under 20MPG in city driving [with a standard].
Auto will get slightly worse.
Higher mileage do use oil, but this only applies to 95 and older.
96 Got the 5VZFE, much improved engine.

The fuel pumps are normally fine, they DEFINITELY don't go out "in most cases".


Yes they do have the inline 3.0, however compared to the 4runner of the same year, ones i've seen are getting like 12mpg... I have a neighbor with an older LC getting close to 18-19mpg with his inline 6... things a ruby red colour ... BEAUTIFUL car for its age...

It's a 4.5L inline six, not a 3.0.

They're pretty rugged trucks, the early 90s ones have very simple suspension, so not much to break.
Lack of cooling system maintenance can be a problem, it's a cast iron block and the system likes to rust.

Even though the engine is old school, there's a LOT of hoses and things to go bad in the engine bay, and like Crisco said; parts are expensive and hard to find.

Rugged trucks, but maintenance can get very expensive.

Ads28
06-12-2009, 12:10 AM
Wierd i was going to make a post similar to this haha..I also plan on/ are looking for a winter vehicle and for now im looking for an early 90's 4runner.. Id go with a Pickup but i need room of an SUV to lug ppl around...I havnt found anything around town yet, but still have plenty of time to look around..
Happy Hunting :)

importrcr13
06-12-2009, 12:23 AM
Gas isn't that bad.
The 3.0 should get just under 20MPG in city driving [with a standard].
Auto will get slightly worse.
Higher mileage do use oil, but this only applies to 95 and older.
96 Got the 5VZFE, much improved engine.

The fuel pumps are normally fine, they DEFINITELY don't go out "in most cases".
All i've heard of my next door neighbors is he had to replace the fuel pump like 2x, and i've seen tons of them in our service drive for electrical issues... Not trying to sound like i know EVERYTHING but i was just putting in my two cents.

No offense taken.



It's a 4.5L inline six, not a 3.0.

"By 1990, power came from a fuel-injected 4.0-liter inline 6-cylinder engine .... "

I meant by the early 90's ie: 90-93 I misplaced the 4 with a 3... my bad....

the 4.0 didn't go to 4.5 until 93 i believe

geebes
06-12-2009, 01:28 AM
Wierd i was going to make a post similar to this haha..I also plan on/ are looking for a winter vehicle and for now im looking for an early 90's 4runner.. Id go with a Pickup but i need room of an SUV to lug ppl around...I havnt found anything around town yet, but still have plenty of time to look around..
Happy Hunting :)

Haha...we must have all had shitty winters last year...bc I want to snag up an older subaru wagon and lift the crap out of it.

i.e http://www.celicatech.com/gallery/files/2/7/3/7/1992subarulegacy92legacyon33s.jpg

Grot
06-12-2009, 01:37 AM
thats cool as hell. a lifted outback.

KoreanJoey
06-12-2009, 08:37 AM
5vz 4runner would be a better bet. Easier to get parts, solid, proven motor, sold by the millions.

The LCs in the 90s, iirc, had between a 4.3 and 4.5L I6. Never a 4 from my memory. AND they're kind of a nightmare to work on. Mostly due to age and the fact that EVERYTHING on the damn car is oversized (except for the brakes which you'll probably be replacing every 40K miles).

The LCs don't drive particularly well BUT if you need to go places that are otherwise inaccessible it'd be the car to have (or in event of zombies).

85gtsblackman
06-12-2009, 09:23 AM
land crushers are nice but a quad runner made before 96 is better with the 22re engine, i think 95 or 6 is the year they started with the 5vz, thats one of the most bullet proof v6's ever

CriScO
06-12-2009, 10:00 AM
The LCs don't drive particularly well BUT if you need to go places that are otherwise inaccessible it'd be the car to have (or in event of zombies).
Can't you all just hear Murg going "Oh shit!" and jumping onto craigslist? :hehe:

fischman
06-12-2009, 03:47 PM
Just bought the lady a 1999 4runner. The thing is great, gets about 19mpg in town and about 24 highway. I've been doing alot of investigation, and as many have said the v6 in it is known to be pretty much bullet proof. Theres tons of aftermarket for it and it appears to be very easy to work on for the most part. And we only paid $5000 for it!!! Limited Edition with Electric Rear Locker and tow package. Very nice vehicle for the money.

Josh

tuner4life
06-12-2009, 07:41 PM
I would like something smaller than a LC, but I was just weighing the options since they seem to ba about the same price as the 4 runner. I have been finding Nissan Pathfinders to be significantly cheaper than any of the Toyotas and I am looking at them too.

Grot
06-12-2009, 08:24 PM
yea, but its a nissian.

importrcr13
06-12-2009, 08:28 PM
aren't a lot of nissans built in mexico? Nothing bad about mexico itself, but things don't tend to last too long and are poorly assembled in mexico ie V.W. ....

VikingJZ
06-13-2009, 06:49 AM
If you get a white LC you MUST paint UN on the front doors.

I always wanted to do that. At least with electrical tape, so it could come off easily.


But in all honesty, Land Cruisers are getting hard to find. In this area finding them is tough.

Remember that red one that the Chevy dealer had behind the building for a few weeks last year?

Yeah it had 400k or so on it. Not too bad.


I want an early 80's one.

Or an FJ40

VikingJZ
06-13-2009, 06:52 AM
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/1215414450.html

You want that.

Cavanagh
06-13-2009, 08:21 AM
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/1215414450.html

You want that.
No he doesnt, because i do! :P

VikingJZ
06-13-2009, 06:04 PM
No he doesnt, because i do! :P


You realize how good of a deal that is?


You can't touch an FJ40 for that in most cases.

tuner4life
06-13-2009, 11:09 PM
I do like the older ones, but I want a FJ80 since it has alot more options and tends to be easier to live with.

Murgatroy
06-13-2009, 11:34 PM
Can't you all just hear Murg going "Oh shit!" and jumping onto craigslist? :hehe:
Shut up, I so wasn't thinking that.


I have access to a dozen large tractors, which IMO would be better for Zombiegeddon...

Although a Landcruiser would be more maneuverable.

T-spoon
06-14-2009, 12:13 AM
+1 for 5vz equipped 4runners. Buddy of mine has had one for probably 5 years now with the supercharger on it. Gets low 20s gas mileage.... high-ish teens when I've borrowed it (I can't help it, it's so funny to hear the SC whining furiously as it blows by stuff). Very very solid vehicle. He bought a new 4runner but still has the.. I think it's a 98 and it's still running very strong after those 5 years of daily driven supercharging. I'd definitely recommend a late 90s. Great vehicle and should be very affordable these days.

MrWOT
06-14-2009, 12:35 AM
All I know is I've had a serious craving for something powered by a 1FZFE-T ever since I read on it and they (LCs) ride really nicely. Wonder how much one of those trannys will take. Hmmm.

KoreanJoey
06-14-2009, 01:31 AM
FJ40s ride like ass... FJ60s ride like ass... FJ80 and newer are good.

celica9303
06-14-2009, 04:11 AM
I love my 89 4runner. Despite the very shity gas milage (9 mpg is the best I can get) and the fact the truck runs like shit all of a sudden needs tune up badly. Hopefully new wires will fix that. But I wouldn't trade it for anything it laughs at jeeps offroad.

celica9303
06-14-2009, 04:17 AM
It has the v6 and 220k on the clock paid 150 bucks for it

KoreanJoey
06-14-2009, 05:56 AM
Ewww... 3VZ...

Sorry, do not want.

VikingJZ
06-14-2009, 08:36 AM
FJ40s ride like ass... FJ60s ride like ass... FJ80 and newer are good.

Wranglers ride like total dick, too. FJ40 is practically the same thing.

But yes they DO ride like total shit. I have never had the unfortunate privilege of riding in an FJ60.

celica9303
06-14-2009, 04:57 PM
Ewww... 3VZ...

Sorry, do not want.

What's wrong with that?

85gtsblackman
06-14-2009, 06:21 PM
3vz-e's are notorious for headgasket issues

i dont think u can swap the 3vzfe heads from a camry either

and a 22r or 22re can keep up with the 3vz-e and works better in the mud due to durability

but the guys tha blow up the 3.0 engines swap a 5vzfe in, its pretty strait foward. go look it up on yotatech.com

Freshnicity
06-14-2009, 08:52 PM
Get a 4wd toyota truck

and call it a year son

vip09
06-15-2009, 01:31 AM
This is all I know about Land Cruisers..

http://www.titanmotorsports.com/to1fzenpr1hp.html

DaneDog311
06-15-2009, 04:45 AM
had an older FJ40... Jeep What?

fischman
06-15-2009, 10:21 PM
VIP09, I wanna shoe horn that into the celica... hehehe... I know, not gonna happen :-(

KoreanJoey
06-16-2009, 06:49 AM
If you did manage to get it to fit and then managed to get it to work it'd be in the car for as long as it took to hit the gas the first time. Then it'd go careening out of the flimsy unibody of the celica.











Would still be kind of epic though.

VikingJZ
06-16-2009, 06:58 AM
You can buy a house around here for as much as that engine costs..

KoreanJoey
06-16-2009, 06:58 AM
Yes but that house wouldn't be as awesome.

VikingJZ
06-16-2009, 07:05 AM
Too bad I couldn't live in the engine.

Fuck it.....the crate it comes in is worth the $80k

MrWOT
06-16-2009, 07:43 AM
Someone should be punched in the cock for having that kind of price tag on that. Could be done for far, far, faaaaaaar less money. Regardless, it will take 1000whp and live a long life with the right bits :D

KoreanJoey
06-16-2009, 08:11 AM
Someone should be punched in the cock for having that kind of price tag on that. Could be done for far, far, faaaaaaar less money. Regardless, it will take 1000whp and live a long life with the right bits :D

Um... yes because R&D is cheap *insert sarcasm*

Try making 1800HP reliably, with further development... Yeah, not cheap.

Shit, buddies neighbor has a drag boat, was $30k for just the developed heads.

KoreanJoey
06-16-2009, 08:15 AM
PS: There's more than a little difference from 1000HP to 1800HP

MrWOT
06-16-2009, 05:08 PM
There is nothing worth 100k about that engine unless you were going to use it for it's original purpose. It was made to fit NHRA restrictions, but with the same amount of money you can make vastly more power from one working without those restrictions. The engine is nowhere near maxed out.

edit: on a sidenote, abu dhabi motorsports has one pushing 2500, too bad I can't read arabic :squint:

alltracman78
06-17-2009, 02:49 AM
You can buy a house around here for as much as that engine costs..

You couldn't even buy a half acre of cleared land for that here [if you're lucky maybe a 1/2 acre of uncleared land].

Shit's stupid expensive, it's fucking recockulous.

mike perkins
06-18-2009, 03:09 AM
another website for landcruisers is www.ih8mudd. sorry i don't have a link.

if you're looking at a mid 90's lc check the front brake rotors,it's not an easy fix to change those out.

if you're close to 200k,you'll need to do a front axle rebuild or a buirfield repack. it's expensive to have done, but if you don't mind a big mess you can do it yourself for under 400

and there is the usual starter,alternator ps pump,brake master cyl stuff.

don't bother looking for parts in a junk yard, they don't exist.

that's all i know.

KoreanJoey
06-18-2009, 06:12 AM
Yeah, the 90s LCs eat brake pads... Like 30K miles per set (Fr&Re)