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MikeN
03-02-2009, 01:49 AM
So... It seems that the engine code for the 92 GT 2.2L motor is the same up until '99. Is this true? Would a '98 motor bolt right up and work with the '92 electronics, etc? No guessing... need a real answer :wiggle:

METDeath
03-02-2009, 02:12 AM
It should.

My91GTS
03-02-2009, 03:04 AM
if its rev2 it should

celica91gts
03-02-2009, 04:30 AM
rev 2 started in 92 so your answer is a straight yes. but is the engine your getting an auto or manual? i believe there is a lil bit of difference between their harnesses due to that reason.

grayscale
03-02-2009, 05:08 AM
Real answer is yes. There were a few minor changes made in 94 and 98, nothing special. There was a tiny power decrease in 94. If I could choose which one I liked, I'd say 98-99 when they started using the metal head gasket and a few other small changes. You can also use any Camry or Rav4 5sfe as long as they are revision 2 also.

grayscale
03-02-2009, 05:08 AM
rev 2 started in 92 so your answer is a straight yes. but is the engine your getting an auto or manual? i believe there is a lil bit of difference between their harnesses due to that reason.
The difference is the ecu.

StormyBklyn
03-02-2009, 05:47 AM
I'm running a '99 5S out of a Camry in my '92 GT, so yes, it's plug and play.

METDeath
03-02-2009, 10:49 AM
The difference is the ecu.

The ECUs have different plugs between the Auto and Manual. The Auto looks like a 3S-GTE plug, and the manual... well doesn't. So the wiring is technically different.

presure2
03-02-2009, 01:31 PM
yes, the motor is the same
the only thing is that you will have to use your accessories (IE alternator, distributor, valve cover, intake manifold, exhaust manifold, waterneck)
your best bet is to find a 98 or 99 5s out of a camry or celica, like others have said, its got the metal headgasket, as well as having a better casting of the block, with higher nickle content which makes it stronger.

Idiot Stick
03-02-2009, 01:42 PM
And cn handle more boooooost!

yeah!

mr2trd3
03-02-2009, 05:35 PM
your best bet is to find a 98 or 99 5s out of a camry or celica, like others have said, its got the metal headgasket, as well as having a better casting of the block, with higher nickle content which makes it stronger.

This.

And, IIRC, Lexus motors were better than its Toyota twin (balanced crank shaft, I think). Maybe this only applies to the V6's, though.

wizzards581
03-02-2009, 06:19 PM
92's are already OBD2?

METDeath
03-02-2009, 06:25 PM
They're not OBD2, Celica's didn't get OBD2 until... 96 or 97. The rev2 just has a knock sensor, and the other yearly changes mentioned above.

MikeN
03-03-2009, 02:21 AM
I'm running a '99 5S out of a Camry in my '92 GT, so yes, it's plug and play.

hrmm.. I thought the 99 5S was distributorless?

wizzards581
03-03-2009, 03:00 AM
hrmm.. I thought the 99 5S was distributorless?

they have a distributor but cannot be adjusted.

andy
03-03-2009, 03:13 AM
just bolt all your 92 crap on the 98 longblock and roll

grayscale
03-03-2009, 04:01 AM
the only thing is that you will have to use your accessories (IE alternator, distributor, valve cover, intake manifold, exhaust manifold, waterneck)

Why would you need to change any of that besides the distributor?

MikeN
03-03-2009, 04:42 AM
Thought the newer motor used a coil pack instead of the regular distributor?

grayscale
03-03-2009, 04:49 AM
^I thought dis was only on the 7afe?

MikeN
03-05-2009, 05:17 AM
Here's the car in action last Saturday :wiggle:

http://mike.napurano.com/album/listpics.asp?a=ddl&id=wylhoehtipbn

alltracman78
03-06-2009, 03:03 AM
Here are the FACTS.

It's not a vote [gee, 2 guys said one thing, the other guy doesn't have anyone agreeing with him, he must be wrong], I know what I'm talking about. So does Manny [presure2].

92 - 99 is effectively the same longblock [block, head and internal parts to both]. There ARE differences, like the Camry has balance shafts, the final revision has a metal head gasket, ect, but they will all work with each other.

What you have to be careful of is don't get an older engine than your car is. Mainly because they started putting a separate crank sensor on the crank in 96?. Before this the distributor had the crank and the cam sensors in it. If you have a 96 ^ and you don't have a separate crank sensor on the crank you're not going to be able to use your current ECU.

You want to swap ALL the external stuff because there is a LOAD of differences between years and models. The 5S came in the Celica, Camry and MR2. The manifolds [both], distributors, water necks, oil coolers, timing belt covers, engine mounts, brackets, ANY sensors, and anything else you can thing of can be different between models and years. 97 - 01 Camry 5S had 2 coil packs instead of a distributor, the Celica had a distributor all the way to 99. This might cause problems, I don't know how easy it would be to slap a distributor onto one of those engines.

The Rav4 never had the 5SFE, it came with the 3SFE [similar but different] until 98?, then it got the 1AZFE.

mr2trd3
03-06-2009, 03:59 AM
thanks, boss. we needed the truth.

MikeN
03-06-2009, 04:46 AM
Thanks, good info!

I have a 92 Celica, and am looking at a '93 Camry motor. Should be fairly straight forward swap?

VikingJZ
03-06-2009, 05:51 AM
This.

And, IIRC, Lexus motors were better than its Toyota twin (balanced crank shaft, I think). Maybe this only applies to the V6's, though.

The ES300 is the same as a V6 Camry, but with nicer options.

So yeah, it has the same V6 engine, but did not come with a 5SFE option.